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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.12.23 00:52:00 - [1]
 

at the momnent nothing has changed in the drone scene.

as far as I can see drone boats without bonus don't have extra room for more waves of drones.

I would understand the way CCP did if it wasn't for one fact.

the typhoon is a better drone boat than the mega... what?

So here is my idea, but it will only work if the above is taken care of and ships have maybe room for 10 drones of the right size in the bay.

Suicidcal anti missle drones!

I was playing tarminics new game and I thought it was cool that drones could be used to take out missles! I think it was a bug but not a bad idea.
So why not have a drone system to replace the pointless defender missiles?

the drones would fly out and take out themselfs and the missile.

seems like something the galenete could have invented in a war with the caldari.

and it doesn't need much balancing, it's pretty simple just have room in the mega for 20 light suicide drones, 5 medium ECM drones and 5 heavy combat drones. that would be pretty cool

Minmatar pilot speaking.

well that's it.

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2007.12.23 00:57:00 - [2]
 

Sounds like an expensive hobby, sending your drones to certain doom.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.12.23 00:59:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Tamia Clant
Sounds like an expensive hobby, sending your drones to certain doom.


I'm not saying normal light drones. a new class of drones.

and whats the difference between firing off a drone to certain doom and fire off a missle to certain doom?
both would be as expensive.

N1fty
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:01:00 - [4]
 

So the 20 drones will stop 20 missiles. Thats not a huge advantage, maybe if the drones could guard you and shoot down missiles before they hit?

Balance the drones so that its like the damage reduction of putting a tracking disrupter against a turret ship and its good.

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:03:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Tamia Clant on 23/12/2007 01:03:37
Originally by: MotherMoon
and whats the difference between firing off a drone to certain doom and fire off a missle to certain doom?


None. Now take the fact that defender missiles are pretty much useless, doesn't that make anti-missile drones useless as well?

Originally by: N1fty
So the 20 drones will stop 20 missiles. Thats not a huge advantage, maybe if the drones could guard you and shoot down missiles before they hit?

Balance the drones so that its like the damage reduction of putting a tracking disrupter against a turret ship and its good.


Now that's a good idea.

Gel Kolea
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:03:00 - [6]
 

If you want to be "realistic," there's no reason not to use a small battery of lasers in place of a defender missiles. Lasers, after all, propagate at the speed of light; they're ideal space-based AMS weapons.

Rilder
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:05:00 - [7]
 

I actually think drones are much better in trinity, they attack frigates first, then cruisers and leave battleships to last, they don't seem to have as much trouble staying passive (even with them on agressive)

Then again I'm not one of those Gallente who can't brush there teeth without drones.

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Rilder
I actually think drones are much better in trinity, they attack frigates first, then cruisers and leave battleships to last, they don't seem to have as much trouble staying passive (even with them on agressive)

Then again I'm not one of those Gallente who can't brush there teeth without drones.


I recommend you actually read the opening post next time.Razz

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:08:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Tamia Clant
Edited by: Tamia Clant on 23/12/2007 01:03:37
Originally by: MotherMoon
and whats the difference between firing off a drone to certain doom and fire off a missle to certain doom?


None. Now take the fact that defender missiles are pretty much useless, doesn't that make anti-missile drones useless as well?

Originally by: N1fty
So the 20 drones will stop 20 missiles. Thats not a huge advantage, maybe if the drones could guard you and shoot down missiles before they hit?

Balance the drones so that its like the damage reduction of putting a tracking disrupter against a turret ship and its good.


Now that's a good idea.


well no, defender missiles are useless because you have to use up a launcher hardpoint.
with the ability to stop 20 missles you don't have to use a hardpoint that could be used for weapons.

just becuase they do the same thing doesn't make them the same...

I also like that idea but it should be balanced. then again becuase you'd have to scarefic your drone damage anyways maybe it is a good idea.

also the drones would always take out the missile 100% of the time.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:09:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tamia Clant
Originally by: Rilder
I actually think drones are much better in trinity, they attack frigates first, then cruisers and leave battleships to last, they don't seem to have as much trouble staying passive (even with them on agressive)

Then again I'm not one of those Gallente who can't brush there teeth without drones.


I recommend you actually read the opening post next time.Razz


hahaha :P
someone didn't read my post did they :P

N1fty
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:23:00 - [11]
 

[Think this thread belongs in features and ideas]

I hadn't thought about the fact that you are sacrificing some of your own DPS to use anti-missile drones.

So they already have a big balancing factor in them, I quite like the idea.

I have always thought why Missiles dont have a good counter apart from speed, which is a counter to all weapons really. Especially when you have tracking disrupters to use against turret users but you have the useless defender missiles to use against missiles.

Mind you, after the recent nerf, you could argue that Tracking Disrupters are useless too.


Anyway, just use ECM-Drones, they are the new Damps and work rather nicely vs turrets and missiles Very Happy

mirel yirrin
Gallente
Ore Mongers
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.12.23 01:25:00 - [12]
 

CIWS Drones, I like it.

Give each drone a % chance of shooting down incoming missiles, say 10%, so even with five out you only shoot down half of incoming missiles.

Maybe a 2% per level increase per drone for the CIWS drones skill, or something along those lines.

Wouldn't be too imbalanced, or would it?


Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Concordia Discors
Posted - 2007.12.23 03:33:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gel Kolea
If you want to be "realistic," there's no reason not to use a small battery of lasers in place of a defender missiles. Lasers, after all, propagate at the speed of light; they're ideal space-based AMS weapons.


If you want to be realistic then any ship above a shuttle should have multiple AMS units built in (think Phalanx rotary cannon or more simply a wall of chaff for the missile to hit instead of you), I mean a Megathron, a ship bigger than a skysc****r... no point defence batteries??? Was the ships designer Cpt. ****** of the ****** alliance on his holidays to the land of ******s or something? You get my point though :)

I kinda like the idea of setting the drones to kamikaze themselves, kinda of the final finger you give to someone when your going down.

Mr Siman
Spawn More Overlords
Posted - 2007.12.23 06:47:00 - [14]
 

This game already has anti-missile drones. They're called repair drones. And they're not even suicidal. And they also counteract guns too!

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.12.23 07:45:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mr Siman
This game already has anti-missile drones. They're called repair drones. And they're not even suicidal. And they also counteract guns too![/quote

hehe yes, but you can't use them on yourself.

but you have a great point!


 

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