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 Banduril Gallente freelancers inc Pupule 'Ohana |
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:56:00 - [ 1]
Lets talk about hybrid NPC/Conquerable regions like Fountain and Delve. Doesn't EVE need more? This idea seems like a good stepping stone for smaller alliances and mission running would be nice in some of the outer regions like Cache and Omist. This would also pull more people into the 0.0, a needed thing as we live in a post 12-15 world. |
 Muro Deez Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [ 2]
This is quite a good idea, my friend. As we've seen in the past, hybrid regions are often both crucibles and wombs for new 0.0 alliances, allowing them to experience 0.0 regions without the logistics requirements of pure 0.0. |
 Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:00:00 - [ 3]
Do we really need another Outer Ring though? Last I checked, the population of the entire region was 3 -- 2 were macro ratters, and 1 guy that got lost and couldn't find his way back out. |
 motomysz Gallente Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:00:00 - [ 4]
Yarr, although frustrating when your enemy can't be driven out of them, they do serve a purpose. |
 DaiTengu Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:01:00 - [ 5]
angels are going to control all of 0.0 one day imo tbqh.
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 DaiTengu Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:01:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: DaiTengu angels are going to control all of 0.0 one day imo tbqh.
OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF |
 LASER WATCHER Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:02:00 - [ 7]
i think it's high time that we have a jovian area like this and that the jove can be aligned with whatever alliance has majority soverignty in there, like they respect the power that the alliance has gained. |
 Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:03:00 - [ 8]
Can you imagine the Jovian rats though? Try explaining to your CEO why your mining op of 12 barges and 4 battleships was wiped out by a belt rat frig. |
 von Goethe Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:04:00 - [ 9]
Should just be some better spacing of those areas. Just how NPC space is pretty evenly distributed across the galaxy. Sort of like a Starcraft map. |
 Banduril Gallente freelancers inc Pupule 'Ohana |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:04:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: LASER WATCHER i think it's high time that we have a jovian area like this and that the jove can be aligned with whatever alliance has majority soverignty in there, like they respect the power that the alliance has gained.
This is a great idea. This could tie into the factional warfare if its ever released, letting you align with pirate factions as well as the empire factions. I can imagine a lot of good RP opportunities as well. |
 Gontard Minmatar E-Truth
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:05:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: DaiTengu
Originally by: DaiTengu angels are going to control all of 0.0 one day imo tbqh.
OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF
you forgot to switch char  ? i bet all goon posters , till post 10, are the same guy ... 30 seconds for 10 goons to post in the same thread ?!? invincible!!! |
 Yussef Amarr War is Bliss
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:05:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Can you imagine the Jovian rats though? Try explaining to your CEO why your mining op of 12 barges and 4 battleships was wiped out by a belt rat frig.
But the loot would be great, no? |
 Amuko Amarr Reverentia Illuminati. |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:05:00 - [ 13]
Spam removed - Valorem |
 Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:06:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Yussef
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Can you imagine the Jovian rats though? Try explaining to your CEO why your mining op of 12 barges and 4 battleships was wiped out by a belt rat frig.
But the loot would be great, no?
Except for the part where you couldn't kill them, yeah, I imagine it'd be great. |
 Yussef Amarr War is Bliss
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:08:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Gontard you forgot to switch char ?
i bet all goon posters , till post 10, are the same guy ... 30 seconds for 10 goons to post in the same thread ?!? invincible!!!
What do you mean? |
 Muro Deez Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:08:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Yussef
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Can you imagine the Jovian rats though? Try explaining to your CEO why your mining op of 12 barges and 4 battleships was wiped out by a belt rat frig.
But the loot would be great, no?
This could become a fairly subjective topic. As most of us know, loot is currently sorted by meta-level (much like alliances) - with low-quality loot rated a low meta-level and officer and faction loot rated at a higher meta-level. With Jovian loot, this scale is not definitively accurate. Role-playing alliances would most likely prefer Jovian craft to drop very high meta-level loot, leading to an unbalancing of power between the new hybrid regions and previously available regions. New spawns would have to be added to existing regions that drop enhanced loot in order to maintain the status quo. |
 Traumatica Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:09:00 - [ 17]
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 DaiTengu Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:10:00 - [ 18]
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 Shredded Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:10:00 - [ 19]
I think jovian ships could be killable, they just have very high resists, like 99%, right? It may be worthwhile to try killing one for the loot, plus I'd imagine agents would offer insane faction points for a jovian tag. |
 Muro Deez Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:12:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Shredded I think jovian ships could be killable, they just have very high resists, like 99%, right? It may be worthwhile to try killing one for the loot, plus I'd imagine agents would offer insane faction points for a jovian tag.
This could actually become quite well done. Something akin to a Jovian Titan, needing between 50-100 pilots of good skill to kill. |
 Yussef Amarr War is Bliss
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:13:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Shredded I think jovian ships could be killable, they just have very high resists, like 99%, right? It may be worthwhile to try killing one for the loot, plus I'd imagine agents would offer insane faction points for a jovian tag.
Why? Don't they only offer points for enemy tags? Jovians aren't anyones enemy I thought. |
 Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:13:00 - [ 22]
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 LASER WATCHER Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:14:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Shredded I think jovian ships could be killable, they just have very high resists, like 99%, right? It may be worthwhile to try killing one for the loot, plus I'd imagine agents would offer insane faction points for a jovian tag.
well they would just be equal to doing level 5 missions you just need a lot of people to band together to kill them but the loot they drop is amazingly good (better than officer-named modules) and they actually increase your standings towards jove for showing your true strength |
 Moon Kitten Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:15:00 - [ 24]
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 Banduril Gallente freelancers inc Pupule 'Ohana |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:16:00 - [ 25]
Jovians would have KILLER implants since they are all into biotechnology and whatnot. This could have a big impact on the economy and who controls the regions (think snake or slave implant mission runners TIMES TEN NO LESS). Releasing such powerful factions must be done with a gentle hand on CCPs part and will have big ramifications on the value of all non high security space zones. |
 LASER WATCHER Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:20:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Banduril Jovians would have KILLER implants since they are all into biotechnology and whatnot. This could have a big impact on the economy and who controls the regions (think snake or slave implant mission runners TIMES TEN NO LESS). Releasing such powerful factions must be done with a gentle hand on CCPs part and will have big ramifications on the value of all non high security space zones.
also a dynamic security level system could be implanted in some areas much like concorde, however they only protect enemy npc haulers going from station to station. if you can stay the tank of the security ships (not like concorde who are way too powerful) then you can loot the hauler and get tons of stuff and possibly shoot the security ships as well (more would not spawn as it would be like an encounter) |
 Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.18 16:21:00 - [ 27]
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 Dagam Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:32:00 - [ 28]
OTOH (on the other hand) I feel there needs to be some RP justification for NPCs all of the sudden setting up stations where players have already lain stake to. The argument for more hybrid regions to entice players into 0.0 is a sound one however could stand to be convincing from an RP perspective. |
 LASER WATCHER Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2007.12.18 17:16:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: Dagam OTOH (on the other hand) I feel there needs to be some RP justification for NPCs all of the sudden setting up stations where players have already lain stake to. The argument for more hybrid regions to entice players into 0.0 is a sound one however could stand to be convincing from an RP perspective.
it would just be a matter of either alliances allying and sharing territory with these npc factions or the npc could start warring the alliance. it makes for interesting gameplay |
 Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2007.12.18 17:23:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: LASER WATCHER
Originally by: Dagam OTOH (on the other hand) I feel there needs to be some RP justification for NPCs all of the sudden setting up stations where players have already lain stake to. The argument for more hybrid regions to entice players into 0.0 is a sound one however could stand to be convincing from an RP perspective.
it would just be a matter of either alliances allying and sharing territory with these npc factions or the npc could start warring the alliance. it makes for interesting gameplay
Npcs shooting me would be novel, but surely it would get old sooner or later. Especially after you figured out the optimal way to beat them on EFT. |