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Taren Gareau
Gallente
Gallente Freelancers Association
Posted - 2007.12.18 13:48:00 - [1]
 

What do you think as CEO/Members about requesting Limited API access (maybe even Advanced API info)?

I'm confident it is secure, and I think it would help with application security and maybe even keeping an eye on members (and CEOs!) budgets.

Does this seem too invasive? Is it too new, that most would balk at the request? What do you think are the pros/cons of such a request?

Cpt Farnham
Amarr
InterGalactic Corp.
Posted - 2007.12.18 13:59:00 - [2]
 

The limited key only allows for them to pull your corp, race, blood line, wallet amount, skills. Not sure about position not looked into it to much. Full key wise i'm not sure anyone would give that out easily. Though all you need to do is generate a new key if you think it's being miss used.

Ex0101
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:04:00 - [3]
 

I have absolutely no issue with giving out my limited key, and i dont see why anyone should ever have a problem with it. Its no more info than ineve gives for example.

TZeer
Caldari
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:05:00 - [4]
 

Limited key, no issue.

It`s a very easy way for the alliance to find out what their members can fly.

How many carrier or dread pilots they have.

Faceless Pokemon
Amarr
THe X Spies
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:29:00 - [5]
 

I would recommend that limited api access is a required policy in your recruitment.

This helps ensure you are not recruiting lurkers and also that the pilot meets your minimum skill requirements.


steveid
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:42:00 - [6]
 

also a good idea to help prevent alts *will use*

Marvn Riley
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.12.18 14:59:00 - [7]
 

1. What business does a corporation have seeing what happens to be in my wallet?
2. Why should the onus be on a corporation to see what ships I can fly? They hired me on with a set of expectations. If I don't meet them... *boot*.
3. Why should a corporation have access to see what I am training? Genuinely curious about this one, bearing in mind that the majority of ship-replacement corps only replace T1 (essentially free) ships anyway, and there are already large limiters in place to cap-ships.

Don't care about the alt-thing, but others may be. Someone who takes the time to provide a deep cover for an alt-spy shouldn't be forced to have that blown through an out-of-game tool.

If they provided limiter fields on the API to allow you to generate a "view" key, with certain information selected, I might be a bit more understanding. However, it smells a bit meta-gamey any way you cut it.

Marvn

Tellenta
Gallente
versic LLC
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:23:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Marvn Riley
1. What business does a corporation have seeing what happens to be in my wallet?
2. Why should the onus be on a corporation to see what ships I can fly? They hired me on with a set of expectations. If I don't meet them... *boot*.
3. Why should a corporation have access to see what I am training? Genuinely curious about this one, bearing in mind that the majority of ship-replacement corps only replace T1 (essentially free) ships anyway, and there are already large limiters in place to cap-ships.

Don't care about the alt-thing, but others may be. Someone who takes the time to provide a deep cover for an alt-spy shouldn't be forced to have that blown through an out-of-game tool.

If they provided limiter fields on the API to allow you to generate a "view" key, with certain information selected, I might be a bit more understanding. However, it smells a bit meta-gamey any way you cut it.

Marvn


So they can plot and plan around the ship types the members can use, beyond that none really. TBH my main rarely holds more than 100 mill at a time and excess gets shuffled off to a wallet alt to prevent me from over spending on useless crap <doesn't work but I try>. It's a tool more or less, I don't see the problem with it because if a corp mate asked me any of those questions I'd answer it honestly. EvE meta gamey??? say it ain't so.

Muro Deez
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:28:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Marvn Riley
1. What business does a corporation have seeing what happens to be in my wallet?


tax evasion


Quote:
2. Why should the onus be on a corporation to see what ships I can fly? They hired me on with a set of expectations. If I don't meet them... *boot*.


why not

Quote:
3. Why should a corporation have access to see what I am training? Genuinely curious about this one, bearing in mind that the majority of ship-replacement corps only replace T1 (essentially free) ships anyway, and there are already large limiters in place to cap-ships.


a lot of corporations have subsidy programs in place (not replacement), and i think they'd be none to pleased if i took 50m for an eagle and couldn't fly an eagle. it also gives the corp some idea of what the corp's overall skillset is like.


Quote:
Don't care about the alt-thing, but others may be. Someone who takes the time to provide a deep cover for an alt-spy shouldn't be forced to have that blown through an out-of-game tool.

If they provided limiter fields on the API to allow you to generate a "view" key, with certain information selected, I might be a bit more understanding. However, it smells a bit meta-gamey any way you cut it.


thankfully people don't have to conform to your view

LASER WATCHER
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:35:00 - [10]
 

i think the apis just allow the ceos to spy on us in our free time as i am undercutting the market which is a valid strategy and if i cannot do this which i do most of the time then my business will not be able to operate and we will not have any more war ships so as you can see mandatory api keys are harmful to all of us

Perianwyr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:46:00 - [11]
 

I think you're free to ask, but I think anyone even worth having in your corp is likely to refuse.

TrevorReznik
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:53:00 - [12]
 

Hopefully the API will someday allow us to play eve without opening the client.

JeanPaul Sartre
Amarr
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:10:00 - [13]
 

Frankly we should just have our API number tattooed on our arms for the Officers to see at a glance.

Gyle
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:30:00 - [14]
 

shouldnt this be in Game Dev not coad.

Shredded
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:32:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Gyle
shouldnt this be in Game Dev not coad.


Well this partiuclar implimentation of API relates directly to corporations, policy etc. So it does belong here.

LASER WATCHER
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:35:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Gyle
shouldnt this be in Game Dev not coad.


it is a discussion of the morality for ceos to take on this invasive procedure. it can already be done now, which is scarier than you think

Lord Dregen
Caldari
Easter Corporation
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2007.12.18 17:02:00 - [17]
 


This is really a good idea in theory, good way to eliminate spy alts or recruits that lie about having alts.

I would not care about the individuals wallet.

Also if a corp member can not trust his ceo with the api key of his charectors, then as CEO, I would not want a corp mate that does not trust me in my corp.

Also all the people that are complaining 100% have alt spies some where and do not want to share that is why they are saying no to this idea. Its understandable.


 

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