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Tital
Posted - 2007.12.18 03:07:00 - [1]
 

Given these bad boys have just been introduced and prices are predictably high, what will the price settle to when the novelty has worn off?

At a guess I'd say 300 mill was acceptable, both from a buyer's value perspective and what I know of the required materials.

Anyone got a more educated guesstimate?

Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights
The Cool Kids Club
Posted - 2007.12.18 03:12:00 - [2]
 

according to a friendly corp that got a couple BPCs, the build cost if you purchased all the components off the market is still about 1 to 1.5 billion. For a corp with ideal production factilities (all the component BPOs fully researched, perfect skills, the best ship arrays and so on) it will of course be less but when you factor in a reasonable profit margin i would not be surprised if the stable market price hovered around 900 mil to a billion or so

Tital
Posted - 2007.12.18 03:20:00 - [3]
 

They've already come down from 1.5 bill last week to under 800 mill this week, so I'm guessing it will fall further.

http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=28710

Artmedis Valben
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.18 03:52:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Artmedis Valben on 18/12/2007 05:39:06
If you have the full set of components and shop around for advanced components, and the infrastructure for an army of builders to build all the components (each requires and advanced science at level 3) so throwaway alts cannot easily do this.
And if you get average results from invention, the cheapest these can be built for is 625-690 mil each.

At that price you have no profit from invention, no profit from component building and no profit from battleship construction all of which require advanced skills and quite some investment.

A fair price is still roughly 1-1,2 bil for Marauders. There is just much less demand than supply. At prices under 800mil they can be reprocesses into components that have been selling for more.

Tital
Posted - 2007.12.18 04:44:00 - [5]
 

Great, thanks for the advice.

Damselina
Posted - 2007.12.18 20:45:00 - [6]
 

And yes, they are selling for less than the cost to replace the materials used to build them right now. My guess would be people bailing out of a bad investment.

Protrade
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.18 22:12:00 - [7]
 

A few people in my corporation over-extended and sold off their inventory to me for 600mil. Beautiful.

I was blessed with a 100% success rate on the Kronos. 25 BPCS (runs) with max run decryptor / Imput BPC.

The drilled down cost at 75mil for the decryptor and 64m for datacores still cost 140mil per try. BPC another 10million

So it costs me 30million per invention run to produce... What if they only had 2 successes? 75million for each. Build costs are rougly 750million in components. At todays prices.. 1billion.


Roland John
Posted - 2007.12.19 04:33:00 - [8]
 

Due to the price of reactions in Jita and Amarr, the cost to build a -5me -2pe SIN is 445,374,821 thats factoring in quantity of materials and thats building everything... Dominix BPC 15ME, Jump Drive BPC 326ME, and the -5ME BPC. To build the Golem same -5me -2pem Raven BPC 50ME... is 732,352,961 not included is the cost of the BPC's for the ships... so unless the Jita reactions prices drop then unfortunatily the price of built ships wont drop drastically Black Ops can't fall below 500mill isk and the Marurder no last that 750mill, untill market balances out... Still however i don't forsee the price fluxiating much even if an alliance creates all the reactions needed to build the Components why would they sell the ship for any less than the going rate. Thus i forsee a bottle neck forming with these new ships every one will want one... CCP should increase POS mining Ops from 0.3's to 0.4's :-) hehehe....
Regards
RJCool

Ethidium Bromide
Amarr
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.19 14:41:00 - [9]
 

checked build cost for a paladin just this morning with all materials (including apoc and R.A.M.s) bought from market:

1.2bil

HarryManback
Minmatar
Exotic Dancers Club
Imorral Dragons
Posted - 2007.12.19 16:49:00 - [10]
 

I am fairly new to the industrial side of eve but do you need an Advanced BS assembly array to build these ships or can you just build them in stations. If you dont need to then what is the purpose of these structures. Pros and Cons.

Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2007.12.19 16:58:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: HarryManback
I am fairly new to the industrial side of eve but do you need an Advanced BS assembly array to build these ships or can you just build them in stations. If you dont need to then what is the purpose of these structures. Pros and Cons.


They can be built in stations. If you build at a pos it goes faster to build, but you consume more materials in the process.

Damselina
Posted - 2007.12.19 19:19:00 - [12]
 

I think you are a fool if you calculate build cost from the advanced materials and building the t2 components in-house. I have seen real and common situations where the items listed on the invented bpc BOM could be sold for more than this calculated price. At that rate you are screwing yourself and possibly eating the invention costs if you don't factor these in.

Doesn't it sound stupid to add more value into a product by additional assembly and finishing, only then to sell it for less than what the individual components cost? You are placing a negative value on your own labor!

Whenever you make a choice to consume something instead of selling it, your cost at that point is what it could have been sold for, regardless of what it cost you to make it. Check the market and use cost to replace to determine your break-even point. Going below this should be viewed as taking a loss.

Idxx
Amarr
Dirty Tricks
Posted - 2007.12.20 14:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Damselina
I think you are a fool if you calculate build cost from the advanced materials and building the t2 components in-house. I have seen real and common situations where the items listed on the invented bpc BOM could be sold for more than this calculated price. At that rate you are screwing yourself and possibly eating the invention costs if you don't factor these in.

Doesn't it sound stupid to add more value into a product by additional assembly and finishing, only then to sell it for less than what the individual components cost? You are placing a negative value on your own labor!

Whenever you make a choice to consume something instead of selling it, your cost at that point is what it could have been sold for, regardless of what it cost you to make it. Check the market and use cost to replace to determine your break-even point. Going below this should be viewed as taking a loss.


QFT. I calculate all my build costs based on Jita sell prices for the t2 components, not the buy price for the materials used to make them.


 

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