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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:09:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 09/12/2007 09:38:05
Megathron bs has a problem in that it has too much powergrid. This means that it can fit more than a Heavy powergrid race such as Amarr (which needs 2-3 RCU II for a fitting to do the same job e.g sniping). I strongly reccomend that this be fixed asap by reducing the Powergrid on a Mega so that it requires fitting mods, just like some other races.


Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:14:00 - [2]
 

I agree

Cricketz
SMASH Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:19:00 - [3]
 

Finale post on topic. Goodbye.

Clone 1
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:20:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Megathorn



LOL

Sobach
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:30:00 - [5]
 

I agree, the Megathorn is simply too overpowered, and needs a nerf immediately

the Megathron, on the other hand, is perfectly fine.

Laughing

Nadun'Hagar
N00bs With Guns
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:32:00 - [6]
 

It needs a nerf, its a megethorn in my side.

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:36:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Nadun'Hagar
It needs a nerf, its a megethorn in my side.


But earthlier happy is the rose distilled
Than that which, withering on the virgin thorn,
Grows, lives, and dies in single blessedness.

William Shakespeare

Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2007.12.09 09:46:00 - [8]
 

A Mega has too much powergrid. I strongly reccomend CCP fix this asap, as other races need multiple RCU's to fit for same job.

Attempting to troll does nothing other than prove yourselfs as fanboys

Akane Miyamoto
Habitual Euthanasia
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:09:00 - [9]
 

Lemme guess, you're *****ing about tachyon fit and not megapulse fit?

Hephaesteus
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:11:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
A Mega has too much powergrid. I strongly reccomend CCP fix this asap, as other races need multiple RCU's to fit for same job.

Attempting to troll does nothing other than prove yourselfs as fanboys


Shut up fool.

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
A Mega has too much powergrid. I strongly reccomend CCP fix this asap, as other races need multiple RCU's to fit for same job.

Attempting to troll does nothing other than prove yourselfs as fanboys


negative proof is negative

Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:20:00 - [12]
 

Quit trolling ffs.

The devs know amarr has problems. This isn't going to help the matter, it just ticks off people who take you seriously. And of course there is the general fear that a dev might take you seriously.

Caldrion Dosto
Excrutiating Dirge
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:22:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Caldrion Dosto on 09/12/2007 10:22:17
Itīs really funny how "Some" people do on this board...


Oh noos drones are dangerous! *chanting* Nerf!, nerf!, nerf!, nerf!, (result: nerf)

Oh my GOD Iskhur is usable! *Chanting* Nerf, nerf!, nerf!, nerf! (ok, nerfed, but must admit it wasnīt popular demand on this one)

Nerf Gallente yeah, Oh noos Speed settups are a pain in the ass! *chanting in progress* Nerf!, Nerf! Nerf!, Nerf!.


Oh my GOD i was sniped by a Megathron!! *chanting in progress* Nerf! Nerf!, Nerf!


FFS, Stop complaining that much abouot the ships, you can die to a lot of things. Whats most annoying is the constant Ner***e after people whine on the board.


I mean i got killed by a Thyphoon, WTF! NERF; NERF; NERF!!!!!!!

Neutral


Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:23:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
A Mega has too much powergrid. I strongly reccomend CCP fix this asap, as other races need multiple RCU's to fit for same job.

Attempting to troll does nothing other than prove yourselfs as fanboys


I will try to refute your assertion without resorting to name calling, trolling and flaming.

The Megathron was not designed as a rail boat, but an in your face blasterboat. This means it needs the PG to fit 7 heavy blasters (the highest pg short range weapon available iirc), as well as a MWD (your blasters suck at more than about 10k), and a tank to get within 10k where its' awesome DPS makes up for the last 20k you had to travel while only your drones hurt your target, and you were taking heavy fire all the way.

This does however mean that when fitting rails for sniping, you get a bit of pg spare, and still manage a decent range, and lots of lows for damage mods.

However, if I were to fit my Tempest with 6 1400mm artillery cannons for sniping, if I don't bother fitting an armor rep, I can get away with no PG mods (and at 200k you don't really need an armour rep).

As for the Rokh, if it needs PG mods to snipe (don't fly them myself) it isn't a huge problem 'cos it shield tanks anyway, and has the medslots to make up for losing a low or 2.

Now the Abaddon. Amarr ships are designed to be the kings of medium range combat (leading to many issues which I won't go into here), and yes the Tachyon beam lasers aren't the best for sniping due to lack of range, and they drain your cap in about 7 volleys. Megapulses are the beam lasers of choice for cap sustainability. They lack the high DPS of a Tach, but make up for it, by allowing you to be cap stable.

Basically the megathron is fine. If it does something that you like, that you can't do yourself train for it. In EVE you are not your ship, and by saying "I'm not training another race's ships 'cos I'm (insert race here)" then you severely limit your choices in eve, and end up making stupid statements on the forums, and getting rightly flamed for it.

Akkarin

Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:26:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Caldrion Dosto
Edited by: Caldrion Dosto on 09/12/2007 10:22:17
Itīs really funny how "Some" people do on this board...


Oh noos drones are dangerous! *chanting* Nerf!, nerf!, nerf!, nerf!, (result: nerf)

Oh my GOD Iskhur is usable! *Chanting* Nerf, nerf!, nerf!, nerf! (ok, nerfed, but must admit it wasnīt popular demand on this one)

Nerf Gallente yeah, Oh noos Speed settups are a pain in the ass! *chanting in progress* Nerf!, Nerf! Nerf!, Nerf!.


Oh my GOD i was sniped by a Megathron!! *chanting in progress* Nerf! Nerf!, Nerf!


FFS, Stop complaining that much abouot the ships, you can die to a lot of things. Whats most annoying is the constant Ner***e after people whine on the board.


I mean i got killed by a Thyphoon, WTF! NERF; NERF; NERF!!!!!!!

Neutral




What I find amazing is that during the recent caning Gallente took with the nerf bat, the Astarte was left alone (I don't personally believe it to be overpowered, but the damn thing scares the living crap out of me when I see it looking my way!)

And yeah the Typhoons split weapons are overpowered. It needs a nerf! Laughing

Akkarin



Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 09/12/2007 09:38:05
Megathron bs has a problem in that it has too much powergrid. This means that it can fit more than a Heavy powergrid race such as Amarr (which needs 2-3 RCU II for a fitting to do the same job e.g sniping). I strongly reccomend that this be fixed asap by reducing the Powergrid on a Mega so that it requires fitting mods, just like some other races.




you should really get banned from this game or quit.

your posts are clueless and stupid

DeMundus
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2007.12.09 10:53:00 - [17]
 

Well the flame resistance on the megathorn could use a buffLaughing

Toronga
Posted - 2007.12.09 11:09:00 - [18]
 

I sat on a Megathorn the other day ..... what i giant pain in the ass that wasTwisted Evil

ISD Valorem


Amarr
ISD STAR
Posted - 2007.12.09 11:27:00 - [19]
 

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Anacrit Mc'Sinister
Posted - 2007.12.09 11:30:00 - [20]
 

2heavy reps, mwd, full rack of blasters, and booster charges...why cant i fit that?

Soltueur
Gallente
The 8th Order
Posted - 2007.12.09 11:36:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Soltueur on 09/12/2007 11:36:10
Does anybody else see a pattern appear?? He also started this thread about projectile guns being to powerfull because they dont use cap... and now hes complaining about the megathron. Anyone wanne bet on what hes gonne post the next time??? :P

I got 10 isk on the ability of the scorpion to jam ships.

ZelRox
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.09 12:00:00 - [22]
 

So if you pair projectiles with megathron, you have a unbeatable combination.
WTB.

Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.09 12:08:00 - [23]
 

The Maelstrom can fit 8 1400s without a PG mod.
The Rokh does need a PG mod for 8 425 IIs, but you can scrap by with either a +5% PG implant or a PDS (which will, NTM, help your cap and shields).
The Abaddon does admittedly need an RCU II to fit, but then again you can drop down to mega beams if you're willing to accept some range, DPS, and alpha hit. Tachyons are notorious for extreme powergrid use, as are most lasers.

achoura
Posted - 2007.12.09 13:38:00 - [24]
 

[ 2007.12.09 12:35:19 ] (combat) Your Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser perfectly strikes Centus Plague Lord, wrecking for 3259.1 damage.
..is the reason tach are so hard to fit..

Durethia
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.12.09 13:47:00 - [25]
 

I would like to point out, that in order to properly fit a Megathron, you have to have a CPU implant. And, you'll still have an empty hi-slot with non-faction gear.

Most highly skill mega pilots only have 3 or so CPU left. So any additional pg you seem to think the Megathron has, can't really be utilized.

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2007.12.09 14:04:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/12/2007 14:05:28
Stop trolling.

If Amarr suck so bad for you, then train another race. Trolling the forums doesn't help. I could go on and make 25+ topics about the uselessness of entire ship classes. It's not going to make em work faster to fix it.

Furthermore, as a character which is five months in the game, here's a tip for you: you shouldn't be flying a BS at this time. No wonder you can't fit them right, be cap stable in any fashion, or use them right. You couldn't, in fact, fit a Mega because you probably don't have WU V and a +5% CPU implant which the bloody thing often requires.

Also, your logic fails. Instead of nerfing everything, giving Amarr some oomph in certain areas is:
(a) Easier.
(b) They promised they'd do it anyway.
(c) Not a reason to troll forums 7/24, especially not with stupid things.
(d) Does not make posts based on EFT instead actual in-game workings any more valid.

Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.09 14:32:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: achoura
[ 2007.12.09 12:35:19 ] (combat) Your Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser perfectly strikes Centus Plague Lord, wrecking for 3259.1 damage.
..is the reason tach are so hard to fit..

Wowza, nice hit.

Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.09 14:47:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
A Mega has too much powergrid. I strongly reccomend CCP fix this asap, as other races need multiple RCU's to fit for same job.

Attempting to troll does nothing other than prove yourselfs as fanboys


The megas powergrid is just right, assuming you're fitting neutrons you'll find it a very tight fit. It wasn't so long ago that the mega could only fit low-end large guns, this was rectified to bring it in line with the other battleships. It is a tighter fit than for example a mealstrom (which for me always has PG and CPU to spare. It has a far easier time than for example the rokh, which is a REAL tight fit with 425s (my rokh uses 99% of cpu and pg).

I've also never had significant difficulty with Amarr ships.

You should try fitting caldari more often! That or work on your fitting skills such as weapon upgrades/advanced weapon upgrades. Remember that the more PG your guns use, the greater the effect these skills will have in making life easier.

Corphus
Posted - 2007.12.09 14:52:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 09/12/2007 09:38:05
Megathron bs has a problem in that it has too much powergrid. This means that it can fit more than a Heavy powergrid race such as Amarr (which needs 2-3 RCU II for a fitting to do the same job e.g sniping). I strongly reccomend that this be fixed asap by reducing the Powergrid on a Mega so that it requires fitting mods, just like some other races.




novize player. stop wasting my exorbitantly expensive time.

LUH 3471
Posted - 2007.12.09 14:53:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: LUH 3471 on 09/12/2007 14:57:08

first of all pg cant be utilized because the mga is short on pg
and
what needs to be nerfed is the raven not the mega it fitted with siege launchers can kil now a gankmega with slave implant set no problem
starting 0km
in my eyes that is highly unbalanced


boost blaster damage output !11Very Happy


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