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Michael Snark
Noctiscion
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:20:00 - [31]
 

Not sure about how much it was used up, but I've got my FPS below 5 at the end of Shipyard Thieft pocket one.

Logged off and got "memory can't be "read"" error (stack overflow?)

Logged back back in mission area and got around 75-80 FPS

Aleksei Thraddash
Committee for Subversive Decoration
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:21:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: peroxide chase
Edited by: peroxide chase on 06/12/2007 15:58:42
is there any way to ensure eve is loaded 100% into ram ?

i have 8gb of ram on my workstation with a xeon 3230 and would like to be as lag free as posible, can a INI file be edited to go into uber extreme mode ?

also i get lag when pulling in fighters (1/2-1/4 second mini freezes for each fighter)


I believe the prefs.ini setting is resourceCacheSize=512 for extreme, worth giving higher settings a try.

KISOGOKU
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:31:00 - [33]
 

sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it
good luck
Originally by: Iva Soreass


/shrugs
Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s

bobtheminer
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:40:00 - [34]
 

my issue really does seem to be related to browsing while play, just kill 2 spawns without opening my browser and both clients closed without issue ive done it several times before where ive been looking in this thread while killing off 2 spawns and the end result is 1 or both clients locks up

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:40:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: KISOGOKU
sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it
good luck
Originally by: Iva Soreass


/shrugs
Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s



Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme

Bo Bojangles
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:43:00 - [36]
 

Bumping my own question,...

Originally by: Bo Bojangles
How will clients react to the new cache selector switch where users have manually gone into their prefs.ini file located in x:\Documents and Settings\<User>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings folder and manually set the buffersize and/or added the advancedDevice=1 as was suggested for performance improvements on the old client. I've looked at my prefs.ini file and while there are new items such as HDR and bloom now, those settings mentioned are still what I'd manually set them to before the patch.

Thank you!

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:50:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Sharless
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24
My comp just freezzes completely.
I cant do anything but hard-reset.
A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever

I have:
Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz
1024 RAM
x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb

Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well.
WHat is freezing me up?


ATI



i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw.

never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\

KISOGOKU
Posted - 2007.12.06 16:57:00 - [38]
 

sorry iva i have nothing to say left
my settings pic,i hope someone can explain why i have and you have not with classic client.I have 2gb ram and x1300pro atm
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7665/20071206164858jn5.jpg
Originally by: Iva Soreass
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Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2007.12.06 17:10:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: KISOGOKU



Thats fine KISOGOKU thank you for trying to help.

Admus
Bath and Body Works
S I L E N T.
Posted - 2007.12.06 18:20:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Admus on 06/12/2007 20:12:33
I've been having this problem where my client just crashes; I get one of Microsoft's "We are sorry for your incovenience, blah blah this program is closing" messages where it prompts you to send an error report.

I believe this tends to happen, or at least it first happened and has continued to happen, when I tamper with the bloom settings in the new engine. I have HDR enabled and whenever I change the bloom setting and close the options window, it craps out on me.

Any ideas? Am I a good old fashioned internet R-tard?

EDIT: On second analysis it happens every time I alt-tab and then try to open EVE again. So, maybe it's not to do with the bloom at all. Is this a memory issue?

breadcat
Hedion University
Posted - 2007.12.06 18:54:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: breadcat on 06/12/2007 18:55:04
I like that option. Especially extreme. 867 MB Cache size ftw. ^^

javer
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.06 19:31:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: javer on 06/12/2007 19:31:23
1 client normal cache=550mb, extreme=1.2gb.. and its a mem leak as it was growing at a rate of 1mb/s

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2007.12.06 20:04:00 - [43]
 

Can a Dev Please answer my question.

Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:01:00 - [44]
 

What are those of us with classic ment to do? I can't access the cache settings because I've got a little note there telling me I can't run premium, but eve's memory usuage keeps going up until it locks up and I have to force a shut down with the system manager.

Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:09:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 07/12/2007 16:37:07
Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 06/12/2007 22:11:37
Originally by: KISOGOKU
sorry iva i have nothing to say left
my settings pic,i hope someone can explain why i have and you have not with classic client.I have 2gb ram and x1300pro atm
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7665/20071206164858jn5.jpg
Originally by: Iva Soreass
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Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme



Notice that your settings window says you can run Premium content, while Iva's says not able to. So that's the difference to me (the only one immediately noticable).

It looks like that changes the settings box where you have the cache option and start download button but Iva has none of them. It seems to be a screwup on CCP side (bad programming, however I have to verify tomorrow on my office laptop as it can not run Premium).

Iva, I suggest you look into you prefs.ini for a similar setting and adjust there (save a backup of prefs.ini).

And CCP, I can run the Premium content, but I have no diskspace to install it. Would be good if the checkbox in the client actualy tried to estimate the needed diskspace and put up a warning. I discovered after downloading (to a NAS drive) and trying to install (upgrade from classic to premium).

EDIT: the correct prefs.ini option seems to be:

resourceCacheSize=0

I have it 0, because I set the cache to off in the settings screen.

EDIT: I checked on the laptop. The option is missing. So the systems NOT able to run premium content are also NOT able to change the cache size via settings menu. Would be nice to know why CCP forgot to implement this feature for those with older gfx cards. It is the same classic client it seems, so what's the problem ?

Emperor D'Hoffryn
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:11:00 - [46]
 

i had 3 clients running last night with premium content, all set to extreme cache mode.

after a few hours of flying around, the mem usuage got up to max 680megs per client. I only have 2 gig of memory, so this presented some problems with paging, but with my raptor raid array, it was bearable since i was just moving stuff around and doing logistics stuff.

after about 5 hours of continous play, one client crashed out on me. I restarted him, and he started at about 200 meg of mem usuage, and started climbing from there as i did stuff again.

when the client crashed i get the same error as i get sometimes when just quiting, which is the same as everytime i stay on till downtime and am kicked by the server: a C++ runtime error.

Sharless
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:19:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:23:49
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:22:36
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Sharless
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24
My comp just freezzes completely.
I cant do anything but hard-reset.
A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever

I have:
Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz
1024 RAM
x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb

Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well.
WHat is freezing me up?


ATI



i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw.

never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\

ITs not the card thats problematic.
I run a single client smooth as frigging hell.
I can switch everything on and enjoy a sweet ass eve ride, but the problem is when I try to run 2 instances.
It functions well, no issues, but suddenly it just freezes up and i cant even use my mouse anymore, so im forced to reset the computer by keeping the power button pressed down for 10 seconds.

What i tried thusfar:
I increased my virtual memory to maximum, tried turning sound, shadows and cache all off but it doesnt prevent it from freezing.

I used MSConfig to disable all unnecessary crap, but that doesnt change the performance either.
My processor seems to keep running at 90ish %...

What to do?
It should be able to run well...
Cant see what else I should/could do to get this to work.

In classic I can run even more accounts with only a so-so drop in FPS on each account.
I an even run Firefox in the meantime and brwose the net.

Gee'Kin
Tha Specialz
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:33:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Sharless
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:23:49
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 22:22:36
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Sharless
Edited by: Sharless on 06/12/2007 14:23:24
My comp just freezzes completely.
I cant do anything but hard-reset.
A single account however, runs smooth and brilliant - no probs whatsoever

I have:
Pentium 4 3.08 Ghz
1024 RAM
x1600 pro Sapphire RAdeon with 256mb

Got the shadows all off and Cache and off as well.
WHat is freezing me up?


ATI



i'm running the same exact card and I'm having a blast btw. 30-40fps outside station ftw.

never thought that my ole XP-m 2500+ at 2800+ could pump this much \o\

ITs not the card thats problematic.
I run a single client smooth as frigging hell.
I can switch everything on and enjoy a sweet ass eve ride, but the problem is when I try to run 2 instances.
It functions well, no issues, but suddenly it just freezes up and i cant even use my mouse anymore, so im forced to reset the computer by keeping the power button pressed down for 10 seconds.

What i tried thusfar:
I increased my virtual memory to maximum, tried turning sound, shadows and cache all off but it doesnt prevent it from freezing.

I used MSConfig to disable all unnecessary crap, but that doesnt change the performance either.
My processor seems to keep running at 90ish %...

What to do?
It should be able to run well...
Cant see what else I should/could do to get this to work.

In classic I can run even more accounts with only a so-so drop in FPS on each account.
I an even run Firefox in the meantime and brwose the net.



Same here with 2 clients. Random lockups / freezing and hickups.

AMd 64 dual 5200+
2 gig
X1950 .

cant even put my finger on the problem as i tried even de lowest settings.

I do notice this client isnt really tweaked for the moment. bu What the hell .. hopefully there will be a nice one soon. .


Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:36:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Iva Soreass
Originally by: KISOGOKU
sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it
good luck
Originally by: Iva Soreass


/shrugs
Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s



Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme


I have the same problem as you.

Corvidian
Caldari
Royal Order of Security Specialists Support
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:57:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Last Wolf
Originally by: Iva Soreass
Originally by: KISOGOKU
sorry i looked to pic and saw that i did not say i enabled advanced settings.can you try again after you enabled advanced settings ,propbably something related to it
good luck
Originally by: Iva Soreass


/shrugs
Here is what i see on my laptop Display And Graphics content settings with NO options to chose cache. As you can see no options :s



Here is what it shows with adv settings box ticked - Still no options for low//med//high//extreeme


I have the same problem as you.


this option is ONLY avalible for computers that support the premium content

Michael Snark
Noctiscion
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:06:00 - [51]
 

More intel on mission FPS drop

I've ended up mission with 19 FPS in cleared deadspace. Docked and warped back - woops, it's 90 FPS now. Any clues? :)

Vohzd
Posted - 2007.12.07 00:24:00 - [52]
 

I couldnt wait to see the new graphic content and downloaded the premium patch [before 4h00 GMT] and installed it as an update to the old graphics. I had already tested many times if my pc was able to run the new graphic, and, fortunately, it always said "your NVIDIA GeForce 6200 supports Shader Model 3.0".
however, I noticed there was something wrong right after starting the login page; the background was black [where it was supposed to have the "EVE trinity" logo] and the mouse cursor was too slow when moving.
once the game started, I saw all those wonderful graphics. so beautiful. but, when I tried to move the camera around the station it was clear that I wouldnt be able to run the new graphics; got a 15 FPS inside the station and when I left the station the game crashed in 2 seconds.
tried others 3 times and happened exactly the same thing [changing the cache size on each attempt].
then I restarted my pc [fortunately, EVE is installed in a different part of the HD, not in the same where Windows is installed]. and I kept unable to play using the new graphics.
my question is why is that happening?
this is an old pc, but its not that bad.
(3Ghz processor, 1,5Gb RAM and GeForce 6200 256Mb)
is that enough to run the premium graphics?
or could that be due to some kind of bug during the installation?

ps: sorry my poor english. =/
ah, the old graphic is going very well, though.
thanks for reading.

Vohzd

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2007.12.07 00:50:00 - [53]
 

I'm using close to 900K in mem using the extreme setting,from about 2hrs of eve.

Shadow is set to normal, HDR is off.

Pierson Lehman
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:46:00 - [54]
 

Experiencing same problems here xept I've got a hard time running a single client(normally use 2 without problems).
My problem started ca 24 hours before the servers went offline to apply Trinity.
I didnt change any settings and didnt install or change my system in any way, just suddenly each client required a constant 100% cpu(even while I'm in a station...
Before the problem, the CPU was at 50% with both clients up during indling in a station.
Right now I can log onto the game with a single client and I wait for 1-3 minutes until it disconnects.
So I cant play the game at all.
I have reinstalled the game with the Trinity expansion and it's all the same.

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Jolnas Arbiter
Esoteric Cosmos
Burning Spear.
Posted - 2007.12.07 05:54:00 - [55]
 

Uhh... I've got 2gb and I'm setting it to extreme. 512 mb really isn't very much and I've never seen eve take more then 700mb memory... so it probably won't go over 1.5gb memory ever.

EVEN IF IT DOES then it should just go into the swap file (onto your hdd) so I doubt you'd have crashes on any setting with 1/2 clients if you have 1gb or more of ram. (although alt tab might be a tad slow)

Angelus Custos
Amarr Electronics
Posted - 2007.12.07 08:46:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Angelus Custos on 07/12/2007 08:46:51
I'm running two clients and experience degrading performance over time. Especially noticeable is mouse stutter in other programs (like web browser).

I have 4 gig of ram on win XP (so actually 3,25 or closer to 3), and neither client use more then 600mb with High settings. This gave me around 1,5 gig free ram accoring to Task Manager when I experience these problems. When I decreased the Cache the problems dissappear, still that seems strange with so much memory available.

I wan't EVE to use more memory but without the stutter Smile

Neth'Rae
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2007.12.07 08:55:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2007 08:56:48
Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2007 08:55:38
I want eve to use 2gb ram at least, I got 4gb ram installed! Very Happy

Originally by: F90OEX
I'm using close to 900K in mem using the extreme setting,from about 2hrs of eve.

Shadow is set to normal, HDR is off.


Same here :)

Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.12.07 10:22:00 - [58]
 

I put it on "extreme" because I have 4G of RAM and it loads things quicker after the first time. Yay! It uses less than 1G even on "extreme" so it's fine for me.

Ader
Genisis Industries
Posted - 2007.12.07 11:32:00 - [59]
 

If you want an alternative "Task Manager", here is Process Explorer from MS.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processexplorer.mspx


Billy TwoMirrors
Posted - 2007.12.07 12:17:00 - [60]
 

What I want to know is why AA does not work from within the game but crashes the game instead. I have to set all AA and AF settings from my desktop, but it seems to work.
I also would like the devs to make it clear what every setting does in the options menu instead of making up some big word and slapping it in just to make themselves look clever.


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