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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:36:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Edited by: TheDevilsJury on 06/12/2007 07:27:13
Originally by: Neal Cassady
Originally by: Lazarann
Originally by: Neal Cassady
so if i already rebooted my machine am i screwed?

Don't think so. I'm on my laptop right now, which has no boot.ini, and has been rebooted, so as long as you can get in Windows, you should be ok.


um i can't im on a different computer.

this is really making me want to quit this damn game. and before you ask for my stuff im putting it in a bunch of unlocked cans in amamake 3-1.


Since it did not reboot sucessfully, you need to use your windows disk to restore your boot.ini file. There are instructions in an announcement in the Player News Center item. The instructions for those who rebooted are at the bottom, after clicking "Read more".



yeah i lost my xp disk ages ago. any other options?

Lazarann
Ideal Machine
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:36:00 - [62]
 

I tried the method of replacing boot.ini with the boot.ini backup file from C:\Windows\pss, and it worked fine on my laptop.
However, on my PC, the backup file doesn't exist.
Also, I realize this sucks, but in my own opinion, some people need to calm down.

CitzNo 097864
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:37:00 - [63]
 

Well I for one am canceling my subscription after this one.

Gerome Doutrande
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:39:00 - [64]
 

People who only have a vendor specific Win XP recovery CD (in my case that CD only allows me to "restore factory settings", i.e. it would format everything) may want to take extra precautions. A typo in your boot.ini may prevent you from accessing your disk, the same may be true if you use a replacement nt kernel loader (for example for custom boot screens), or have several partitions.

I tried using a "standard" boot.ini, and was no longer able to boot from my disk. As a precaution for this case you could make a set of boot floppy disks if you have a drive for those, make a bootable cd, or a bootable usb stick (http://www.student.livjm.ac.uk/cmpsgoos/usb_bootdrive_guide.htm for how to make a bootable usb stick). If you create a DOS bootable medium, you may need additional software on your boot medium to access NTFS file systems (http://www.free-av.com/antivirclassic/avira_ntfs4dos.html).

In my case, deleting the boot.ini from DOS allowed me to boot from the hard disk again.

Deathcharge
Minmatar
SIEGE.
The Border Patrol
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:39:00 - [65]
 

hey ccp.... ya know... evebt.ini could've worked just as fine ;)
at least this way you get an error cuz of conflict in file path

Prince Sallerus
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:39:00 - [66]
 

This is the kind of mistake that makes a company CEO ask, very seriously, "who let this happen?"

Pilk
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:40:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Pilk on 06/12/2007 07:40:12
Ack, CCP deleted the post to which I was replying.

Rakeris
Brethren Empire
Hitchhiker's Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:40:00 - [68]
 

Well mine got deleted and i rebooted, but all you have to do is make another you can do it without even booting windows. Just use your XP CD and do the repair prompt and have it build another boot.ini

Kendar Zek
Gallente
Interstellar Aid Society
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:40:00 - [69]
 

See my post below this for more information -- CCP Lingorm
*******

If you have not already rebooted your computer, be sure the file is definitely missing by following the following steps:

Open My Computer from desktop
Navigate to C:
From the menu bar at the top, select Tools > Folder Options
Select the View tab
Uncheck "Hide Protected Operating System Files"
Click OK

This will allow you to see boot.ini if it is there in the root directory. If it is not, try the following:

Click Start
Select Run
Type msconfig
Select the BOOT.INI tab

Use this tool to scan for installed operating systems and boot structure, and it should create a proper boot.ini for you.

Lazarann
Ideal Machine
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:42:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Kendar Zek
If you have not already rebooted your computer, be sure the file is definitely missing by following the following steps:

Open My Computer from desktop
Navigate to C:
From the menu bar at the top, select Tools > Folder Options
Select the View tab
Uncheck "Hide Protected Operating System Files"
Click OK

This will allow you to see boot.ini if it is there in the root directory. If it is not, try the following:

Click Start
Select Run
Type msconfig
Select the BOOT.INI tab

Use this tool to scan for installed operating systems and boot structure, and it should create a proper boot.ini for you.


If you're boot.ini file is gone, the boot.ini tab is not there.

Galvatr0n
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:42:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: CitzNo 097864
Well I for one am canceling my subscription after this one.


Can you contract me all your stuff and give me all your money?Very Happy

akakjs
STK Scientific
Black-Out
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:42:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Prince Sallerus
This is the kind of mistake that makes a company CEO ask, very seriously, "who let this happen?"
I'd like to add "Why is the installer even touching my system files!?!" as well...

akakjs

Pilk
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:43:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Kendar Zek
If you have not already rebooted your computer, be sure the file is definitely missing by following the following steps:

Open My Computer from desktop
Navigate to C:
From the menu bar at the top, select Tools > Folder Options
Select the View tab
Uncheck "Hide Protected Operating System Files"
Click OK

This will allow you to see boot.ini if it is there in the root directory. If it is not, try the following:

Click Start
Select Run
Type msconfig
Select the BOOT.INI tab

Use this tool to scan for installed operating systems and boot structure, and it should create a proper boot.ini for you.

Hmm, I'm on Windows XP Pro SP2, and on mine, a boot.ini tab doesn't even display on msconfig if the file isn't present in C:\. Yours autogenerates a boot.ini if it's not present? Neat!

--P

Dorian 13
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:43:00 - [74]
 

hahahahahahaha! I was such an avid hater of vista! I love you vista! And btw, Trinity premium is simply beautiful!

Galvatr0n
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:45:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: akakjs
Originally by: Prince Sallerus
This is the kind of mistake that makes a company CEO ask, very seriously, "who let this happen?"
I'd like to add "Why is the installer even touching my system files!?!" as well...

akakjs

I second that motion. Why is CCP touching my system files?

Pilk
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:46:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: akakjs
Originally by: Prince Sallerus
This is the kind of mistake that makes a company CEO ask, very seriously, "who let this happen?"
I'd like to add "Why is the installer even touching my system files!?!" as well...

akakjs

Because CCP has a "boot.ini" in the root of their install folder. The installer programmer almost certainly intended to delete
boot.ini
but instead deleted
\boot.ini

It's a silly mistake, and easy to make (especially when pressured by 200,000 users who want to get back to their Veld roids as quickly as possible, despite the fact that you're changing a great deal of the programming of the world's largest gaming supercomputer), but still, obviously, quite deadly.

--P

Arctulias
Amarr
Vogon Deconstruction Fleet
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:46:00 - [77]
 

Someone made a typo trying to reset the eve boot.ini file. This isn't some conspiracy theory.

CCP Lingorm


C C P
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:49:00 - [78]
 

Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 06/12/2007 07:49:39
If you have a missing boot.ini here is another solution.



Quote:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(5)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(5)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(5)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

Copy the above code into notepad and save it to "c:\boot.ini"
Start > Run "msconfig"
Go to the boot.ini tab and click "Check all boot paths"

This will then go down the list and check each of the lines to see if it is valid for you.
You will get a popup telling you if any of the lines is Invalid and asking if you want to remove it. Click yes.
At the end of all the popups you should be left with a working boot.ini

msconfig WILL NOT rebuild your boot.ini if you do not have one. It will only validate you exsisting boot.ini

Big Zulu
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:49:00 - [79]
 

So if my EVE folder is located on another drive than C:\ i should be okay to opgrade to premium?

Kittamaru
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:50:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Kittamaru
JUST AN UPDATE:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 is apparently IMMUNE to this bug... I have tested this, so have my corpmates. If you have Win XP SP 2 (and you SHOULD) you should be just fine!


I have sp2 and it effected me, are you sure you weren't installing the full client or something?


I'm 100% sure... I deliberately tried this on a separate machine (we have over a half dozen working Pc's in my household... go figure right?) and it worked fine. XP SP 2 does NOT allow the deletion of the boot.ini file. And even if it is deleted, it stores a backup that it will load instead.

Either that or my PC has self evolved somehow... :P

Kendar Zek
Gallente
Interstellar Aid Society
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:51:00 - [81]
 

Edited by: Kendar Zek on 06/12/2007 07:51:49
Originally by: CCP Lingorm

msconfig WILL NOT rebuild your boot.ini if you do not have one. It will only validate you exsisting boot.ini


Ooops... my mistake on that. Sorry, folks.

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:52:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Big Zulu
So if my EVE folder is located on another drive than C:\ i should be okay to opgrade to premium?


Better not risk it, you can just download the full premium client and install that instead, it doesn't play around with your boot.ini

Will theWeasel
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [83]
 

Well it seems this was on the test server as well. I have as of yet not downloaded the prem content on my main eve install. I have however installed the prem stuff on the sisi install last night, and had yet not rebooted.

I guess that perhaps the stuff on the test server changed a bit between test and live, not a good idea. Makes testing invalid.Sad

Artean
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [84]
 

Hilarious, and what a refreshing start to this morning!

First time ever I'm happy being a Vista user.

So, those this qualify as a trojan or a virus?

Lazarann
Ideal Machine
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Kittamaru
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Kittamaru
JUST AN UPDATE:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 is apparently IMMUNE to this bug... I have tested this, so have my corpmates. If you have Win XP SP 2 (and you SHOULD) you should be just fine!


I have sp2 and it effected me, are you sure you weren't installing the full client or something?


I'm 100% sure... I deliberately tried this on a separate machine (we have over a half dozen working Pc's in my household... go figure right?) and it worked fine. XP SP 2 does NOT allow the deletion of the boot.ini file. And even if it is deleted, it stores a backup that it will load instead.

Either that or my PC has self evolved somehow... :P


Service Pack 2 is irrelevant. I have a PC with XP Home and a laptop with XP Pro, both with SP2 and both lost their boot.ini

Viper's Venom
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [86]
 

ok iv read about 3 pages of this boot.ini mess-up and just wanted to make shore be for i reboot, iv got a file called BOOT.INI and in it is

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons

is this right ?

ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
Pulsar Nebulah
Army of Lovers.
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Neal Cassady

yeah i lost my xp disk ages ago. any other options?


Use some Linux LiveCD distribution. Most of them allow to mount and edit NTFS partitions. You will have to manually create and edit boot.ini file but it should work.

Navick
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:54:00 - [88]
 

As stated (in greater detail) in my thread on the Test Forum...

I run a MacBook Pro with Boot Camp, and got hit with this issue early today before the information about it came to light. On reboot, my OS was so borked that I had to delete my Boot Camp partition and repartition to reinstall windows... only to find out that I couldn't repartition because my Root had somehow been set to Invisible.

A couple hours of searching and some Terminal crunching later, I fixed my hard drive problem, only to find out that I still can't reinstall Windows because my CD-ROM drive no longer works.

Needless to say, my laptop is going to the nearest Apple store for repairs tomorrow. You guys gonna pay the bill for that for me? No? Damn, didn't think so. Thanks a lot, CCP.

Kittamaru
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:54:00 - [89]
 

I would like to state, for the record.

XP Service Pack 2 should be immune to this... the boot.ini does not appear, but windows should load from the backup. I have re-tested it TWICE now, and can confirm it. Either my PC has self evolved and is able to heal itself, or it works. Period.

Considering I tried it on a second PC, and my corpmates have tried this, I can safely give this a 100% YES SP2 fixes this problem.

And yes, it was a simple typo... how I don't know. This didn't happen on SiSi...

Vitrael
Reaper Industries
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2007.12.06 07:54:00 - [90]
 

I'm sorry, but I have to ask.

How could you possibly have missed this before deployment?


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