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Topic |
Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2007.11.19 16:04:00 - [ 1]
im thinking of reformatting my laptops hard drive but theres jsut one problem with that, i dont have the windows xp install disk, so i was thinking about upgrading to linux, any reason i should or should not? |
Haskear
Minmatar
Native Freshfood |
Posted - 2007.11.19 16:29:00 - [ 2]
>>>>>Make sure you backup EVERYTHING before you do anything<<<<< Good choice  but you don't have to format the HD you can dual boot and if you like later on make it 100% Linux, provided you can accomplish everything you use your laptop for on Linux. Why not test drive a liveCD first? Thats how I started off anyways, as for reasons to switch it depends on you really. I know with Linux my PC is faster, more secure and does everything I want it to do (and the eye candy is pretty cool too!). There are disadvantages too, you'll be a "newbie" again for a little while, but google is your friend  and the community is very helpful. GL HF! |
Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2007.11.19 16:36:00 - [ 3]
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.11.19 17:56:00 - [ 4]
Try it, you don't have anything to lose but a bit of time in case you decide that you don't like it. |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.19 18:05:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Ryysa on 19/11/2007 18:05:36Strongly depends on your laptop. Ubuntu runs just fine on my Dell Latitude D610, however some other laptops might have issues. So make sure you find out first how well your laptop is supported and also choose a distribution. Ubuntu is probably easiest to get started with. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.19 18:41:00 - [ 6]
upgrade? |
platz halter |
Posted - 2007.11.19 18:45:00 - [ 7]
Buy Windows Vista®
It is good for you and your laptop! |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.19 18:59:00 - [ 8]
 Originally by: Crumplecorn
upgrade?
Certainly. Originally by: platz halter
Buy Windows Vista®
It is good for you and your laptop!
This is worse than isk selling tbh. |
The Pointless
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:46:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Ryysa
Originally by: platz halter
Buy Windows Vista®
It is good for you and your laptop!
This is worse than isk selling tbh.
A bit of an exaggeration, but yes. Vista is a bit pointless (no pun!) right now, and most likely would do more harm than good to the OP's lappy. |
Dirtee Girl
Rage of Inferno
Minor Threat. |
Posted - 2007.11.19 20:53:00 - [ 10]
i did some work with linux recently
i kinda sucked being a noob again
i found all the little differences frustrating
but it has potential and i am curious how it would run eve |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.20 00:37:00 - [ 11]
I'm you're dumb enough to think Linux is an upgrade of windows rather than a completely different OS with only superficial similarities, you should stick with Windows.
Or hell, 'downgrade' to a Mac. |
Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics |
Posted - 2007.11.20 00:43:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I'm you're dumb enough to think Linux is an upgrade of windows rather than a completely different OS with only superficial similarities, you should stick with Windows.
Or hell, 'downgrade' to a Mac.
I think they're only using the term "upgrade" in a derogatory sense |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2007.11.20 00:54:00 - [ 13]
Edited by: Patch86 on 20/11/2007 00:53:54
XP --> Linux is no more an upgrade than bicycle --> microwave oven. They're not the same thing.
Personally though I much prefer Linux where I get the free choice. It can be a little more work in some areas, and a little less work in others. A lot of my worst gripes about XP aren't there, and few of the new gripes with Linux really bother me.
Not only that but, being free (LEGALLY free, cough cough) it can't hurt to try it out on a dual boot. If you don't like it you can always go back.
Avoid Vista though. Not because it's inherently awful (although it might well be, lets not get started) but because I really don't see the point in getting what is essentially still a bleeding-edge piece of software. Bugs, compatibility issues and lack of killer features included, as ever. Wait another year and then consider it. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:15:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Benco97
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I'm you're dumb enough to think Linux is an upgrade of windows rather than a completely different OS with only superficial similarities, you should stick with Windows.
Or hell, 'downgrade' to a Mac.
I think they're only using the term "upgrade" in a derogatory sense
I know. Just pointing out the dumbassery in it. Linux people really need to shed the inferiority complex. |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:38:00 - [ 15]
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Kata Dakini
Amarr
Flatiron Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:41:00 - [ 16]
Wireless might be awkward to get working in Linux. Check with your vendor. |
Devian 666
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:46:00 - [ 17]
I'm currently installing linux on my ps3. All sorts of fun. |
pwnedgato |
Posted - 2007.11.20 03:04:00 - [ 18]
What's the newest version of humor? I'm running .7.8.1b (beta) |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.20 03:45:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Kata Dakini
Wireless might be awkward to get working in Linux. Check with your vendor.
Never really had any issues. Unless you are running a really non-standard card, it should work out of the box. Injection is a totally different issue though. |
Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:28:00 - [ 20]
well i meant upgrade in the since that it was 8 am and i had just woken up and could not find another word to use and i think for the moment im just going to stick with good old xp, found out my problem is not with needing a reformat, its with my dumbass trying to download por.....eve videos, watch stargate, and play eve at the same time  |
Mike Atropos |
Posted - 2007.11.20 05:34:00 - [ 21]
I strongly recommend Ubuntu. While I personally don't actively use it, I have played around with it. Strange as it is to say, but Linux makes everyday PC operation fresh again, if only because your scrambling to get everything working ^^;.
Just make sure you check your compatibility for everything. My old laptop had a *completely* unsupported Aseros WLAN card, and ubuntu apparently didn't support my mobile processor scaling method, and the cpu melted >_>;;;.
Thread Hijack:
Were the fears of the supposedly unsafe HDD shutdown sequence ever c/d/fixed Ryysa? I track Linux only occasionally, but last i heard there were unconfirmed reports that the harddrives weren't beeing shutdown properly in ubuntu. (don't take this to be fearmongering, I'm just curious.) |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.20 08:09:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Ryysa on 20/11/2007 08:10:32
Uh, no idea which package that was, and no idea why you ask me.
Totally depends on kernel, filesystem etc.
I was never aware such an issue existed in the first place.
As for stuff working, yes everything is working fine on my work pc with Ubuntu 7.10, Core 2 Duo E6550, 8600 GT and 2GB Ram.
Including EvE and Portal (in Wine), not that I get to play much at work though. |
Mike Atropos |
Posted - 2007.11.20 08:17:00 - [ 23]
Ah. I only ask sense you seem to be more up to date on it than I. No worries. |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.20 08:21:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Mike Atropos
Ah. I only ask sense you seem to be more up to date on it than I. No worries.
I use Linux because it works, which I can not say for Windows XP/Vista (at least in the job I do). I don't follow all the developments, I just click the shiny update button, and it updates stuff for me. Of course having administered multiple Linux servers in the past I perhaps know more than the average Linux user, but that still doesn't mean that I am an uber Linux geek ;) |
Dave White
Interlude.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 08:50:00 - [ 25]
If EVE is the only game you play, then yeah, go for it.  |
Kappas.
Galaxy Punks |
Posted - 2007.11.20 12:00:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Mike Atropos
Thread Hijack:
Were the fears of the supposedly unsafe HDD shutdown sequence ever c/d/fixed Ryysa? I track Linux only occasionally, but last i heard there were unconfirmed reports that the harddrives weren't beeing shutdown properly in ubuntu. (don't take this to be fearmongering, I'm just curious.)
There was some sort of thing like that in the latest Ubuntu release, it made hard drives spin up and spin down constantly, and moving the arm back and forth meaning the hard drive wears out really, really quickly. Firstly let me say I like Linux but as I can't be arsed dual booting every time i want to play Eve I stick with XP, considering when the new client came out I lost about 50% of my average frames per second in Linux compared to Windows. As a bit of advice, if you're new to Linux there is going to be one hell of a learning curve. With Windows you generally just point and click, in Linux you point and click, edit a text file, run some commands from the command line, spend a few hours tinkering, then finally get it |
Ryysa
Mission Fail
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Posted - 2007.11.20 16:26:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Kappas.
As a bit of advice, if you're new to Linux there is going to be one hell of a learning curve. With Windows you generally just point and click, in Linux you point and click, edit a text file, run some commands from the command line, spend a few hours tinkering, then finally get it
You couldn't be more wrong. But it's ok, let the smart people run the superior os, while you are still stuck in stone age. |
Samiael |
Posted - 2007.11.20 16:54:00 - [ 28]
Why?!!? so you can spend more time fu-king with your OS everytime you want to install new hardware and applications... upgrade the kernel.. NOT have transparency?
Stick with XP. |
Ciphero
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore |
Posted - 2007.11.20 20:25:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: Samiael
Why?!!? so you can spend more time fu-king with your OS everytime you want to install new hardware and applications... upgrade the kernel.. NOT have transparency?
Ahh, OS fight threads. I like Macs. |
Arvald
Caldari
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:28:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Ciphero
Originally by: Samiael
Why?!!? so you can spend more time fu-king with your OS everytime you want to install new hardware and applications... upgrade the kernel.. NOT have transparency?
Ahh, OS fight threads. I like Macs.
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