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Duhmad IbnRa
Gallente
EvE Dynamo
Posted - 2007.11.07 00:00:00 - [1]
 

From what i heard somebody talked to zulupark on the fanfest, got an extended explaination and walked off satisfied and (most surprisingly) agreeing.

So i would like to know what the status of the carrier changes is and a full and complete explaination, why they are necessary.

Please devs, if you really want constructive critics, then this is an absolute necessity...

infinityshok
ZYNC
Posted - 2007.11.07 00:49:00 - [2]
 

With the multiple threads and thousands of player posts on this topic receiving only a few minimal and vague dev responses the odds of you getting a dev reply are about the same as Santa bringing you a super model flying a titan or world peace. Good luck anyway.

SkyLander
Minmatar
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.11.07 01:22:00 - [3]
 

General consensus is that the devs are determined to nerf carriers one way or another, without providing an accurate explanation or any way to make up for what the carrier now can't do.

Senjei Falcone
Gallente
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
Posted - 2007.11.07 02:56:00 - [4]
 

The state of carrier functionality has been changinng fairly regularly on the test server... my suggestion, see what hits the TQ patch notes when they release all the changes...

theBEANman
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.07 03:30:00 - [5]
 

So maybe CCP doesn’t see the true immediate repercussions of the nerf. By doing this they cause a lot of problems for the smaller alliance’s who depend on the carriers ability’s to survive in 0.0 as we will not be able to afford to buy ships like a jump freighter right away which will cripple the ability for the small alliances to stay in 0.0 . I would say that if the nerf goes through a lot of people who have spent months to a year to get in 0.0 eventually leaving the game do to lack of interest. I mean after reading the other commits about this and seeing 80% of people saying not to do this. I say for once listen to the players who enjoy playing this game and have made this one of the most popular mmorpg on the net.

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.11.07 03:40:00 - [6]
 

Hopefully the fighter deployment/drone deployment nerf goes into effect immediately for Carriers and Mother Ships.

Vicious Phoenix
Posted - 2007.11.07 03:50:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Hopefully the fighter deployment/drone deployment nerf goes into effect immediately for Carriers and Mother Ships.

Why? CCP kept trying to get carriers to front lines, now they're trying to make them distant support ships if they nerf it like that, it doesn't make sense.

Samurai XII
Posted - 2007.11.07 03:58:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Hopefully the fighter deployment/drone deployment nerf goes into effect immediately for Carriers and Mother Ships.

Why? CCP kept trying to get carriers to front lines, now they're trying to make them distant support ships if they nerf it like that, it doesn't make sense.


Don't be baited, his just trolling.

Senjei Falcone
Gallente
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
Posted - 2007.11.07 04:27:00 - [9]
 

CCP has not implemented the change to the way carriers are able to launch drones on the test server... and I believe I read somewhere that that was at least a couple months out... they even had a Dev blog in response to the poor reception of their original idea, and it sounded like they went back to the drawing board on that one.

I would be interested in seeing what "alternatives" they come up with... course I haven't actually gotten any TQ time in a carrier... only on SiSi... so I'm fairly new to the carrier concept and open to ideas... unlike many people I've seen on this development forum.

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.11.07 04:57:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Hopefully the fighter deployment/drone deployment nerf goes into effect immediately for Carriers and Mother Ships.

Why? CCP kept trying to get carriers to front lines, now they're trying to make them distant support ships if they nerf it like that, it doesn't make sense.


Because people simply use carriers and moms as larger BSs. Losing a fight? Jump a carrier/mom in. A 5v5 or 10v10 or 20v20 quickly devolves into who has the most caps in jump range of the fight.

I've had 3x moms jumped in on me in the past week, and these were small fights: like 2v1 (me solo), 3v3, 4v2 (again, my gang had the fewer ships) etc.

It's stupid. You can't do anything to a MS in low sec anyway, they just jump out, and Carriers are pretty much the same unless you're anticipating fighting one in the first place.

Raven DeBlade
Caldari
The Leather Knights
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2007.11.07 05:17:00 - [11]
 

I am utterly tired of seeing skill set after skill set beeing wasted on nerfs, and now this, i am so close now to end my subscription finally.

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.11.07 05:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Raven DeBlade
I am utterly tired of seeing skill set after skill set beeing wasted on nerfs, and now this, i am so close now to end my subscription finally.


I fly a Thanatos. It'll be hit the worst by the fighter nerf. I fly a lot in .4 sec, you can't even assign fighters in .4 sec, and I *still* agree that carriers need to be nerfed.

Buyerr
Posted - 2007.11.07 08:12:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Senjei Falcone
CCP has not implemented the change to the way carriers are able to launch drones on the test server... and I believe I read somewhere that that was at least a couple months out... they even had a Dev blog in response to the poor reception of their original idea, and it sounded like they went back to the drawing board on that one.

I would be interested in seeing what "alternatives" they come up with... course I haven't actually gotten any TQ time in a carrier... only on SiSi... so I'm fairly new to the carrier concept and open to ideas... unlike many people I've seen on this development forum.


but trolls and idiots don't read dev post;)

Jinmie
Posted - 2007.11.07 09:56:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Hopefully the fighter deployment/drone deployment nerf goes into effect immediately for Carriers and Mother Ships.


You never were very smart and your videos suck.


 

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