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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2007.10.31 22:51:00 - [31]
 

OP is obviously idiotic flamebait.

I'm just disappointed so many have bumped this thread. Errr...final bump I hope. ugh

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.01 15:45:00 - [32]
 

Braaage, your video was excellent!

All I have to do now is figure out sov and that other stuff, then I will be on my way to building my very own outpost.

"Egg" = Administrative Outpost Platform <--- that would have been so much easier than all the attacking that went on. lol (I guess most of them don't know the real name of the egg.)

Good job, Braaage.

Dkorg
Caldari
Stasis Inc.
Posted - 2007.11.01 16:11:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion


"Egg" = Administrative Outpost Platform <--- that would have been so much easier than all the attacking that went on. lol (I guess most of them don't know the real name of the egg.)



That's an incorrect statement. It shows you're just parroting and do not understand the underlying concepts. An Administrative Outpost Platform is an Egg but an Egg is not an Administrative Outpost Platform.

All outpost platforms are "Eggs" regardless of type.





Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.01 19:09:00 - [34]
 

Braaage, just for clarification on the soveriegnty issue. In NPC (say Gallente) controlled systems, any POS station can built but not an outpost. Correct?

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.11.01 19:40:00 - [35]
 

POS = Player owned structure = Starbase = Control tower with other items anchored inside or near the force field it projects. Those only go up at moons and can be freely put up in lowsec and 0.0 regardless of sovereignty. Alliances tend to take exception to you putting towers up in areas where they claim sovereignty though. I have no idea how picky the people living in NPC-held 0.0 are.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.01 20:02:00 - [36]
 

The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?

Mrs Saints
Posted - 2007.11.01 20:18:00 - [37]
 

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=562653

Has all the answers to your questions..
You need to go deeper 0.0 , put up a POS for 1 week for sov. 1 and another week for sov 2 to put up Outpost. This must be in a system with out any other POS.

Par Bobot
Posted - 2007.11.01 20:23:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?


Most alliances kill POS's not theirs in their space plus they most likely have sov in that area already

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.11.01 20:31:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Wow. Just wow. I ask for information and get attacked straight away.

I'll keep this is mind in the future and not bother trying to make the Eve community stronger by trying to learn how things work. Damn!

Anger management much?


Nope just called noob management!!! The forums are even more harsh then low sec.. Just so you know for the futureVery Happy

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.11.01 20:35:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
The "exceptions" being outposts not stations. Yes?
"Taking exception" being a phrase indicating displeasure.

The easiest way to think of it is that all outposts are stations (the distinction being that they are erected by players rather than being preexisting) and that starbases are totally different, and several steps down in functionality. Like I said, POS = Starbase = Can be erected freely at any unoccupied moon in 0.4 or lower. Alliances tend to purge them from their space, though a starbase in the middle of nowhere isn't likely to be noticed or bothered.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.01 23:02:00 - [41]
 

Alright.

I'm just going to proceed toward building a POS at a location I like and see what happens.

Angela Toren
Amarr
Toren Shipyards
Posted - 2007.11.02 18:42:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Angela Toren on 02/11/2007 18:44:37
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Alright.

I'm just going to proceed toward building a POS at a location I like and see what happens.


No offence but if you have not even grasped the very basics of this game nor even ventured into low sec space let alone 0.0 - how can you possibly have what it takes to build an outpost? There are some things in EVE you can't buy via ebay and isk/gtc sales and that's experience and knowledge. Sorry if it sounds like i'm putting you down but just reading your posts gives me the impression that you are fresh off the boat and despite being new you have 'somehow' come into possesion of billions of isks for alliance sized projects and are almost demanding of people to tell you a quick and easy way to get what you want.

Then again im making a lot of assumptions, discard them at will.

Reverend Revelator
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.11.02 20:10:00 - [43]
 

OP fails on so many levels it's unreal, but I believe I speak for the entire EVE community when I say that we are all looking forward to seeing you putting up an Outpost in an area that you like. Smile

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.03 02:30:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47
So many haters. So much venting.

I would try to explain how bad players tend to drive good players away and all that, but I think the argument would be lost on most of you. Do you somehow feel accomplished when you attack someone you don't even know via the "intranetz'? U all pew-pew-pew l33tz roflcopters uber and all that crap?

Whatever.

I started playing this game like three weeks ago. I didn't buy any ebay "lewtz" and I am only trying to figure things out.

As for my desire to build a station, hey, maybe that's my gig. Some of you no doubt enjoy the pvp action, some the merchant gig and still others the whole deisgn and build routine.

When you pay for my account, then you can tell me how to play. Until then, vent your misdirected anger on your parents, significant other, kids, pets, co-workers or your local village idiot... assuming that isn't you of course... er, unless you are into kicking your own ass... something well-suited for a typical village idiot.

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So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too! Neutral

Zell
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.11.03 03:12:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47

So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too!

something well-suited for a typical village idiot.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.03 04:38:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Zell
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 03/11/2007 02:31:47

So, I can't even build an outpost in a .4? Damn, that really sets my plans back. I had a nice spot all picked out and explored too!

something well-suited for a typical village idiot.



So, what you are saying is we are all cowards? lol Or, are you claiming to never have bitten it in the cold, lonely darkness of space? Razz

Azzip Inoreppep
Posted - 2007.11.03 05:05:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion


When you pay for my account, then you can tell me how to play. Until then, vent your misdirected anger on your parents, significant other, kids, pets, co-workers or your local village idiot... assuming that isn't you of course... er, unless you are into kicking your own ass... something well-suited for a typical village idiot.




You know, I reread the whole thread just to see if people really were being too harsh on you.. Then I realized that the above quote FROM YOU typifies your posts.

You asked a question, people answered and you didn't understand the answer. When people suggested that if you don't understand the answers then perhaps you need to learn more about the game (and they're right I might add) you start flaming them with the tired old mantra of "having no life" and "living in their mom's basement". You also go on to make ALOT of assumptions about lowsec players and how Outposts can be "instantly" stolen. When people point out your flawed assumptions you simply flame harder (like the above quote).

Ironically, YOU derailed your own thread.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.03 14:42:00 - [48]
 

Reading comprehension.

When I asked for clarification, the ****y attitudes INCREASED... as in there was plenty of ****yiness going on before I asked for clarification.

Here's the real ironic part. IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT I POST, THEN DON'T READ MY POSTS OR RESPOND TO THEM. Doing so only shows your intentions of being an ass. This isn't rocket science, people. If you go looking be an ass, you will find a way to be an ass.

Metathron
S'Erum
Posted - 2007.11.03 15:00:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
If you go looking be an ass, you will find a way to be an ass.


You finally got it. Wink

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.03 15:38:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Reading comprehension.


You didn't get it.

Reverend Revelator
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.11.03 18:03:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Reading comprehension.


You didn't get it.


I don't think you "get" Eve.

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2007.11.03 18:59:00 - [52]
 

In EVE arrogance is reserved for those with power to back it up. Well long term arrogance - everyone can act big and bad if they are unchallenged, but without power to back it up it's usually relatively short term happening.

I don't aim that at anyone in particular in this thread, it's just general feeling I would like to point out. Also just loosely tied to the subject of outposts. People who are considered arrogant by their neighbours will need the ability to back up their mouths with firepower usually sooner than later.

Chomapuraku
Caldari
Carinae's Workshop
Posted - 2007.11.03 20:53:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Chomapuraku on 03/11/2007 20:53:53
where to begin? as with any large project, let's start with a feasibility analysis:

with that attitude, no corp in 0.0 will take you. thus, you will have neither the location, logistics, firepower, cash, or resources to put up an outpost

if you did manage to do it solo (after six months of intensive carebearing or $2000 of ebayed isk/gtc's), there's a 95% chance that a 5-man roaming gang passing through would turn into a 50-man support gang and a 10-man cap fleet within an hour, and you'd be spending the next 3-4 days either locked in your station, unable to pass through the bubblecamp at the undock point, or popped and locked out of your station, because someone would pop the cloning service and you'd respawn in empire and be unable to pass the bubble camps leading into your system. then, after downtime a few days later, sov would switch, they'd shoot your station, and they would take it and name it in a way that ridicules you.

EVE is not like WOW or COH/COV. you don't just solo your way up to the best content in the game. you have to fight for it, and with a lot of highly-skilled friends. sure, you can solo lvl 4 missions pretty easily, but only a bug in game mechanics lets you survive the first ten seconds of a 10/10 complex or exploration site without a few dedicated repair ships. you can mine veldspar in empire solo no prob, but you need a space-holding alliance in good 0.0 space to mine the high-end ores (and even then, roaming gangs can still come in and pop you).

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.05 23:21:00 - [54]
 

So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.

Good to know.

Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2007.11.05 23:41:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.

Good to know.


Yes. And everyone is out to get you. Never forget.

Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
Posted - 2007.11.06 06:06:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
So, what you are saying is Eve is controlled by ****s.

Good to know.


Controlled ?

Eve isn't controlled, that's what makes it great.

Sovereign533
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.11.06 19:24:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Sovereign533 on 06/11/2007 19:25:07
Originally by: Chomapuraku
Edited by: Chomapuraku on 03/11/2007 20:53:53
where to begin? as with any large project, let's start with a feasibility analysis:

with that attitude, no corp in 0.0 will take you. thus, you will have neither the location, logistics, firepower, cash, or resources to put up an outpost

if you did manage to do it solo (after six months of intensive carebearing or $2000 of ebayed isk/gtc's), there's a 95% chance that a 5-man roaming gang passing through would turn into a 50-man support gang and a 10-man cap fleet within an hour, and you'd be spending the next 3-4 days either locked in your station, unable to pass through the bubblecamp at the undock point, or popped and locked out of your station, because someone would pop the cloning service and you'd respawn in empire and be unable to pass the bubble camps leading into your system. then, after downtime a few days later, sov would switch, they'd shoot your station, and they would take it and name it in a way that ridicules you.

EVE is not like WOW or COH/COV. you don't just solo your way up to the best content in the game. you have to fight for it, and with a lot of highly-skilled friends. sure, you can solo lvl 4 missions pretty easily, but only a bug in game mechanics lets you survive the first ten seconds of a 10/10 complex or exploration site without a few dedicated repair ships. you can mine veldspar in empire solo no prob, but you need a space-holding alliance in good 0.0 space to mine the high-end ores (and even then, roaming gangs can still come in and pop you).


just a slight change should be added... you don't need high skilled players to help you... skilling helps tough, but it's not nessesary... a lot of new players can also accomplish a LOT...
maybe no capital battles, but for that you can hire mercs to do that for you (no, mercs are not your friends, they might act like one if you hire them, otherwise.....)

and building an outpost by yourself is possible. it takes a lot of work and effort, but it CAN be done. however, holding it is another different matter. Large pos's are a few billion each, they all need a lot of defensive modules and fuel, and this is a completely different issue.

now i await being flamed by the op ugh

edit : outpost can only be build in 0.0 systems without npc sovereignty

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.11.06 23:30:00 - [58]
 

I don't flame people who give useful advice. In fact, I don't flame - I counter-flame. ;)

Jared Knight
Posted - 2007.11.08 00:15:00 - [59]
 

I don't flame people who give useful advice. In fact, I don't flame - I counter-flame. ;)


Sounds like a poor use of everyone's time.


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