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Mataki Onimareu
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2007.10.25 00:31:00 - [1]
 

I am only being fair, the fact I have to use 5 light drones is fine as long as this happens.

This just puts it in line with other creodron ships:

Hull: Vexor Class
Role: Heavy Assault Ship

- BLAH BLAH BALH -

Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.

Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: +5 km bonus to Scout and Heavy Drone operation range and +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space per level

Name: Ishkur
Hull: Incursus Class
Role: Assault Ship

- BLAH BLAH BLAH -

Gallente Frigate Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage, 15% bonus to Shield and Armor Kinetic resistance and 10% bonus to Shield and Armor Thermal resistance per level

-- This --
Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range and +5 Drone Bay capacity per level

--Should read this --

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level and +5 km bonus to Light Scout Drone operation


kattak4
TOMFOOLERY.
Posted - 2007.10.25 01:09:00 - [2]
 

/signed

i have to agree, ishkur's emphasis is on drones not guns, that's what the enyo is for.
Although, as i use the ishkur in close range more often, i don't see the point of the drone control range bonus.

Tillek
Caldari
LEGION OF DEATHADDERS
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 01:46:00 - [3]
 

nope. Wrong. It should be nerfed as should all the other ships that gallante have.

Mataki Onimareu
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2007.10.25 02:15:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Tillek
nope. Wrong. It should be nerfed as should all the other ships that gallante have.


Either your being sarcastic or need to go back into your hole troll.

Tek'a Rain
Gallente
Collegium Mechanicae
Posted - 2007.10.25 04:32:00 - [5]
 


It would certainly be nice to salvage Something of my green and silver fleet.

A drone HP/damage boost to go with the brutal changes might at least keep my lil pointy droneboat in the running and lock in its role a bit more.


Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.25 05:01:00 - [6]
 

The gun range bonus is valuable, the drone range bonus is not.

+10% HP/drone damage per level, +10% hybrid range bonus per level.

Zolian
Murderous Impulse
Posted - 2007.10.25 05:15:00 - [7]
 

It has no drone range bonus.

The bonuses are bybrid range, hybrid damage, drone hp/damage, resists (lol).

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.25 06:19:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Zolian
It has no drone range bonus.

The bonuses are bybrid range, hybrid damage, drone hp/damage, resists (lol).


Read the OP's suggestion again:

Quote:
--Should read this --

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level and +5 km bonus to Light Scout Drone operation




To which I replied: don't bother with a drone range control bonus. Keep the gun range bonus instead.


Mataki Onimareu
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2007.10.25 06:22:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
The gun range bonus is valuable, the drone range bonus is not.

+10% HP/drone damage per level, +10% hybrid range bonus per level.


I could also go for that

Shereza
Posted - 2007.10.25 07:38:00 - [10]
 

Personally, I say 5% HP/damage per level.

Of course I also think it would be nice to see 10% on cruisers, 15% on BCs, and 20% on battleships.

The drone damage/hp bonuses are nice but when a frigate with 5 lights out would do as much DPS with the drones as a battleship with the same skills (relative) and drones it seems a little odd. If there's some sort of reason for dedicated drone boats' drones doing more damage and being stronger it seems to me that it'd be something more plentiful in larger or more advanced ships than smaller/less advanced ships.

At least this way going from a dominix to a moros wouldn't be such a massive bump in drone bonuses.

Andreya
Red Federation
Posted - 2007.10.25 19:05:00 - [11]
 

you want the most lethal assault frigate to be even more lethal?
/unsigned... and its my favorite AF.

why dont people think of the bigger picture before making petitions like this?

Redd Lenses
Gallente
Red Federation
Posted - 2007.10.25 19:16:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Redd Lenses on 25/10/2007 19:18:25
They just need to look over all of the assault frigates and give them a real bonus instead of the resist bonus.

This would make the Ishkur:

Gallente Frigate Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range and +5 Drone Bay capacity per level

Or as said before, take out the optimal range bonus and give it a drone control range bonus of maybe 10km per level (half the Ishtar).

P.S. and the Enyo would get a double damage bonus and turret falloff bonus (or MWD cap penalty bonus) Twisted Evil

Pirate Tom
Posted - 2007.10.25 19:50:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mataki Onimareu


-- This --
Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range and +5 Drone Bay capacity per level

--Should read this --

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level and +5 km bonus to Light Scout Drone operation




I hope you're planning to compensate it by increasing the drone bay from 5m3 base to 25m3 if you're going to take away the drone bay size increase per level of assault ships.

zacuis
Great Big Research
Posted - 2007.10.25 20:01:00 - [14]
 

i started out pvping in an ishkur and have some of my fondest memorys of eve, killing people in this little green charger. it saddens me no end to see it nerfed so badly when it was far from over powered in the first place.

plz plz plz for the love of god ccp dont do this. changing it from being about to feild 3 med 2 lights to 5 lights is far far to harsh imho. giving it a done damage bonues would be actually buffing it so while i`d love that to happen it probably wont. but 5 lights only is too much for me u killed the ishkur

Shereza
Posted - 2007.10.25 20:17:00 - [15]
 

Quote:
I hope you're planning to compensate it by increasing the drone bay from 5m3 base to 25m3 if you're going to take away the drone bay size increase per level of assault ships.


That change is already slated to go in.

__________

On the subject of assault ship bonuses...

It is rather annoying that assault frigates are the only T2 frigates (probably the only T2 ships period) that do not have a ship-based resistance bonus. It is even more annoying that the ones that have a per level resistance bonus on their T1 counterparts lose it for their T2 per level resistance bonus when, so far as I can tell, no other T2 ship has that problem.

The moa sure doesn't, neither do the vulture, nighthawk, sacrilehe, absolution, or damnation.

Redd Lenses
Gallente
Red Federation
Posted - 2007.10.25 23:33:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Pirate Tom
I hope you're planning to compensate it by increasing the drone bay from 5m3 base to 25m3 if you're going to take away the drone bay size increase per level of assault ships.


Its already on the test server. 25m3 drone bay + 5m3 drone bay per level

Arokan Manturi
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.25 23:44:00 - [17]
 

I think OP means this:

--Should read this --

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level and +5m3 to drone capacity (NOT range)

A range bonus + removing of capacity bonus is just plain stupid.

Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.26 00:23:00 - [18]
 

Umm...no. Guns are good. However, all AF are missing a 4th bonus (not to mention that they're too slow - a nonnanoed typhoon is faster than 2 of them lol) and if they ever come to their senses, it might be nice to get a drone speed bonus in here, so my hobgoblins could actually catch that 8.5km/sec crow.

Andreya
Red Federation
Posted - 2007.10.26 05:15:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Kai Lae
Umm...no. Guns are good. However, all AF are missing a 4th bonus (not to mention that they're too slow - a nonnanoed typhoon is faster than 2 of them lol) and if they ever come to their senses, it might be nice to get a drone speed bonus in here, so my hobgoblins could actually catch that 8.5km/sec crow.


drone speed bonus, i like that.. not to evil, just evil enough Twisted Evil

Shereza
Posted - 2007.10.26 05:22:00 - [20]
 

If they function like drone nav computers then drone speed bonuses might be border-line worthless.

Unless I'm mistaken drones in "sprint mode" either don't shoot or have a very hard time hitting things they're shooting at, especially as once they reach the target they drop out of "spring mode," no?

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.26 05:24:00 - [21]
 

No. They hit just fine while MWDing, if they can catch the target that is.

Mataki Onimareu
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2007.10.26 21:52:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Arokan Manturi
I think OP means this:

--Should read this --

Assault Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level and +5m3 to drone capacity (NOT range)

A range bonus + removing of capacity bonus is just plain stupid.


No I meant range, and get rid of the space bonus and give it a static 50m3 bay with only the ability to feild 25 mbits/sec (5 lights) with 5 lights in the bay for backup

With the bandwitch change we dont need bay bonus anymore

Elo span
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2007.10.27 00:42:00 - [23]
 

Make it a mini moros,except with 100m3 drone bay and 50% to drone damage and HP\assault ship level LaughingLaughing

Stakhanov
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2007.10.27 02:21:00 - [24]
 

Drone velocity bonus would fit its niche very well. An ishkur with drone mods in mids would easily deter interceptors and even larger nanoships if properly supported.

Lydia Browm
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.27 11:39:00 - [25]
 

Boost its drones tbh


 

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