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cal nereus
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.18 20:02:00 - [31]
 

I have really enjoyed the war with MDK so far. I'm looking forward to a similar showing from The New Era. See you in space and fly safe until we meet.

Moctobot
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.18 20:31:00 - [32]
 

for the record i like bruce a lot they remind me of goonswarm when we were young and scrappy and lived in syndicate

Senator Palpatine
Amarr
Java Industrial Services
Posted - 2007.10.18 21:51:00 - [33]
 

on a similar note?

Where is OSS?
I seen one of their bigger corps joined Goonswarm and another of their pvp corps made a new alliance, has BRUCE won this war with OSS yet and are living in S-U?

Allisie
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2007.10.18 21:59:00 - [34]
 

http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancechart.asp?FilterType=Alliance&FilterBy=OSS

YARRRR!!

Vaustrien
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2007.10.18 23:53:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Senator Palpatine
on a similar note?

Where is OSS?
I seen one of their bigger corps joined Goonswarm and another of their pvp corps made a new alliance, has BRUCE won this war with OSS yet and are living in S-U?



Yep, they live in SU now.

During OSS/BRUCE's time of peace, OSS got smaller as its major PVP corps went to other pastures, and BRUCE consistently gained more and more members. Certain parts of OSS were infighting frequently, and Groon got tired of being the scapegoat for OSS's problems. I can't even count the number of times that some OSS guy would taunt us asking why we don't have more participation with 350 members. Yeah, we had TONS of inactives that never logged on, and many members would head off to Goonfleet when they wanted to try out their new carriers or just plain got sick of OSS. Hell, OSS voted 8-1 to boot us because VLINC wanted it (and more importantly, the complex that was in UTKS). Yeah, as if booting Groon woulda solved all of the OSS's problems.

As much as it looks like the timing for Groon leaving coincided with BRUCE attacking, the plans to move were forming beforehand. This did solidify it though, I think the common theme for Groons was "fuggit, we're hanging around an alliance where many hate us, meh whatever, the space is alright, this is the Goon mecca, so we'll stick around." So, it was a long time in the making, but BRUCE coming in took away one of the few reasons we had left to stay.

That said, not all of OSS were like that, there were many members of OSS who were just fine, but it was plenty. I'm sure most of the members of the corps that wanted to boot us didn't even know what was going on at the time.

By the time the fighting re-started there wasn't much of a fight. We had a few skirmishes and it didn't take too long before BRUCE mobilized its big guns. It seemed like it could regularly field more than a dozen capital ships, plus have 3x the members. BRUCE doesn't hold back numbers in fights, and OSS would pester its members to join gangs which were just about inevitable to lose.

Anyways, my thoughts on it.

FlyinBryan
Gallente
Celestial Corp
Talon Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.19 00:19:00 - [36]
 

Very nicely summed up.

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.19 01:02:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: cal nereus
I have really enjoyed the war with MDK so far. I'm looking forward to a similar showing from The New Era. See you in space and fly safe until we meet.


See! I told you there were some good guys in BRUCE. Amen to that mate - irrespective of what happened to start this, we look forward to meeting you guys and having non-smack fun.

Given our comparative size our aims from this are by necessity, modest at best.

As to these more recent posts - to be honest I have no idea about the history, and we are not members of The OSS. Wes, I hear you mate - and like anything judgements are usually formed by contact with specific individuals. We don't really have a thing against the entire alliance - we don't know you guys well enough to make that sort of call.

Bottom line - they got first blood, just because we are small doesn't mean we have to cop it unanswered. Simple really.


Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.19 05:19:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Trytonx
From what I gather, you abused our NRDS policy.


Ummm... exactly how do you do that? NRDS means if they are not RED don't shoot doesn't it? Please correct me if I am wrong, but at the time you guys shot our carrier down, we weren'r RED. But WE abused YOUR policy?

Now this is what I'm talking about - if guys have a policy - you have it. No one made you declare that you have an NRDS policy. Yes - we tried to use that policy, but I think it was actually your guys that AB-used the policy.

I presume we can take that as an admission of guilt? If so, nice to see some honesty finally.

You guys gonna surrender now? Laughing

Ronski
Gallente
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.19 06:18:00 - [39]
 

Classic Yes Minister!
We have a policy of "Not Red Don't Shoot"
However in the fine print you might notice that your use of the said policy voids the policy.
Should the policy be void by your use then another policy is implimented
"Local, Or Orange, Shoot EveRyone"


Moctobot
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.19 06:22:00 - [40]
 

bruce come live in the dirty souf with us and hang out and be our space brosefs embrace your destiny ugh

Sirex007
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.19 08:14:00 - [41]
 

Vaustrien pretty much summed it up. (cept, in my personal opinion i've noticed no diffrence at all since groon left) - when oss napped bruce alot of the oss pvp members left to go find someone to fight. when bruce decided to "claim" an oss system and then break the nap when oss didnt leave (i **** you not) it was a snowball waiting to happen.

@ talk of the killboards. i dunno, the few bruce guys ive spoken to have claimed some really wild BS, like one guy saying they kill 60-70 oss members a day... Which is about 4 times the number we have active. Just how it goes, bruce scream blue murder that their killboard is right and were not posting losses, but i dont see any wreaks around or people talking bout a fight, maybe their posting kills or other people and assuming their oss kills or something, prolly just an mistake. In all honesty i think its more a case of a no contest win but some people are trying to drum it up as a military victory. Which i hope isnt true, because false consfidence will get you creamed in eve.

Trojanman190
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.19 12:56:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Wesley Baird
Having been involved with BRUCE for several days now, I must say they seem like a decent honorable group...can't see how anyone could dislike the entire alliance...as with any large alliance, I am sure there is the odd sweetheart...but as a group, they get the thumbs up from me.




Whats this, honorable? That must mean you guys are getting some good fights! My new PC parts came in the mail, I shall be able to get in on this soon!

Manas
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
Posted - 2007.10.19 22:34:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Sirex007
Vaustrien pretty much summed it up. (cept, in my personal opinion i've noticed no diffrence at all since groon left) - when oss napped bruce alot of the oss pvp members left to go find someone to fight. when bruce decided to "claim" an oss system and then break the nap when oss didnt leave (i **** you not) it was a snowball waiting to happen.

@ talk of the killboards. i dunno, the few bruce guys ive spoken to have claimed some really wild BS, like one guy saying they kill 60-70 oss members a day... Which is about 4 times the number we have active. Just how it goes, bruce scream blue murder that their killboard is right and were not posting losses, but i dont see any wreaks around or people talking bout a fight, maybe their posting kills or other people and assuming their oss kills or something, prolly just an mistake. In all honesty i think its more a case of a no contest win but some people are trying to drum it up as a military victory. Which i hope isnt true, because false consfidence will get you creamed in eve.


You are right, we certainly don't kill 60-70 OSS a day, nor was there ever a day like that. (OSS v BRUCE activity has currently dropped to a trickle..) Also I agree most BRUCE realize it was a lopsided numbers mismatch (especially after most of larger OSS corps left the alliance). We don't fool ourselves that it was elite PvPing, but a general smothering. Such is Eve.

Some of the ex- and current corps in OSS I respect
alot. Too bad they were OSS instead of BRUCE.

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:01:00 - [44]
 

I thought this was our thread? Laughing

Acalin
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:48:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Acalin on 20/10/2007 09:22:33
Originally by: Wusti
I thought this was our thread? Laughing


I noticed that most threads that have BRUCE in em, end up in OSS vs BRUCE discussions.

Anyway Wusti, if you gonna fight them bring lots off ships.
Our skirmish gangs always end up being hunted by a 25+ man BRUCE fleet.
Good thing is they often fly nice ships that look good on the KB.

Acalin

Sirex007
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:38:00 - [46]
 

forum blob ftw.

Architecture
Caldari
MASS
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:16:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Ezekial Crow
Bruce is kinda like Goonswarm lite,............ Any ways they offer Naps all the time and continue to kill you while "High Command looks it over", or break thier nerds code often as possible.


do ya think so? is that why bruce/Goonswarm broke their standing with eachotherz!! eeeh im just wondering

I would like to know more about ya Bruce Wink

Long3130
Minmatar
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.20 11:45:00 - [48]
 

Even though BRUCE are not the best PVPers I fought they definitely know how to play this game... unlike OSS.
OSS keeps loosing good pvp member corps for the past 8 months :(
I believe the reason is that the alliance is simply vegetating in JQV without any clue on how its future will look like. OSS directors keep claiming that the "big daddies" will come up and help if things get nasty and that never happens!

BOS left the OSS, then there were a few smaller corps with decent number of kills, then there was the big blow up with BULG and KMV leaving, then it was the Groon and NOTR.

BECKS was the ****tiest pvp corp when we joined OSS and atm is the in top 3 killers for a few months now - for me that means one thing - OSS is doomed if ppl don't start playing the game as it should be played instead of kicking each others balls internally!

Respect to BRUCE. See you soon in lower Synd :)

PS: guys pls try to engage us with less then 3:1 ships at least once - will be a lot more fun :)

Olex Grant
Minmatar
Resilience.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.20 13:01:00 - [49]
 

Sounds like TNERA's timing in attempting to join The OSS was a bit unfortunate given what I've heard about the current state of play down there in their space.

Another group flying around in Syndicate has go to be good for keeping the region a fun and interesting place to live.

GL with your fight against BRUCE.


Sirex007
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.20 16:20:00 - [50]
 

since this thread is pretty much hijacked...

o/ lo huzzah. - i dunno what we did to you (i had a break from eve) but i gather we were real *******s. so sorry :-( see ya on the battlefield i hope.

BronYAurStomp
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.10.20 16:53:00 - [51]
 

We NAP'd BRUCE.

Also, immediately after we started moving out of S-U, BRUCE started moving in.

Faith Black
Minmatar
Rolls Roids
Posted - 2007.10.20 17:26:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Faith Black on 20/10/2007 17:28:01
Originally by: CobraBytez
Originally by: Ezekial Crow
Bruce is kinda like Goonswarm lite, lotsa of pilots and half the Bite. Any ways they offer Naps all the time and continue to kill you while "High Command looks it over", or break thier nerds code often as possible.


So what you're trying to say is that they're exactly like Goonswarm.


Can't be true, unless Goons are teethless.

1) bite_bruce = bite_goons '...exactly like Goonswarm'
2) bite_bruce = 0.5*bite_goons '... and half the bite'
1+2) => bite_goons=0.5*bite_goons => bite_goons=0, bite_bruce=0
=> Goons teethless. q.e.d.

Ok, I admit I am bored. Laughing

Animo06
Minmatar
The Nomad's
Posted - 2007.10.20 18:00:00 - [53]
 

the way i see it you guys can flame all you want and badger us til were blue in the face but as long as we feel that BRUCE is a threat to us we will keep our standings where they are.Hope to see you on the battlefield. YARRRR!!

P.S. who cares if my sig is too big never killed anyone Laughing

Long3130
Minmatar
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.20 22:56:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Sirex007
since this thread is pretty much hijacked...

o/ lo huzzah. - i dunno what we did to you (i had a break from eve) but i gather we were real *******s. so sorry :-( see ya on the battlefield i hope.


When we napped BRUCE we backstabbed HUZAH.
Many of us were against that, but were not heard. HUZZAH were left alone against BRUCE and will never forgive us that :(
I fought with them many times and have a deep respect to the HUZAH pilots I know... hope they are still good and kicking BRUCE ass :)

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.10.20 23:04:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Wesley Baird on 21/10/2007 07:26:00
While I still hold my opinion of BRUCE as an alliance, I met my first BRUCE smackers...wow, carebears sure are angry people...Im glad that fine carebears with no kills, and no pvp action have such friendly advice!

And BTW Aran Makor hard to find "MDK who actually wants to fight" when you log off...



Animo06
Minmatar
The Nomad's
Posted - 2007.10.21 04:43:00 - [56]
 

^^ lol its fun watching everyone argue on forums Laughing

Animo06
Minmatar
The Nomad's
Posted - 2007.10.21 17:05:00 - [57]
 

had lots of fun with this ------> http://tinyurl.com/26rpu8 so im up for anything bring it Twisted EvilYARRRR!!

Uncauzi
Gallente
No Trademark
Auctorita Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.21 17:45:00 - [58]
 

Good summations of the OSS vs BRUCE war I can see. I wish OSS could've made a better stand of it, more then one week, basically, but without Bulg and KMV there just were not enough of us.

S'okay, Syndicate is still fun :)

Animo06
Minmatar
The Nomad's
Posted - 2007.10.21 18:16:00 - [59]
 

^^true syndicate IS still fun just needs some house-cleaning Twisted Evilwill have lots of fun in that time Wink

Escape Cat
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2007.10.22 04:51:00 - [60]
 

Who would call an alliance BRUCE anyway? Wink


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