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Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:40:00 - [1]
 

The New Era may be a small corp - and maybe even a bit mangey - but even we have our pride.

Due to events of the recent past, we have a legitimate grievance against BRUCE.

Suffice it to say that BRUCE is RED to TNERA - and unlike them we choose to give notice before shooting.

We don't brag about being anti-pirate (coz we r not - hell a guy has to make a living somehow), and nor do we claim a NRDS policy - but we give fair warning.

As we explained to BRUCE, had they been "honestly" dishonest, or even had they a published NBSI policy, we would have deserved what we got.

However, their actions, despite ridiculous post-act justification attempts are nothing short of treacherous for an alliance of supposedly lofty ideals.

See you in space. Its not business - its personal.Evil or Very Mad

Saint Luka
Minmatar
Altruism.
Darkness Rising Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:45:00 - [2]
 

They shot you without asking?

Hmm, your going too have a hard time within EVE.

Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:47:00 - [3]
 

Good luck with that Laughing

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:48:00 - [4]
 

Don't mistake this for a whinge post - its not - we can take a punch. Its the irony and hypocrisy that I have an issue with - but flame away anyway - we can take that too

Antaean
Caldari
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:51:00 - [5]
 

lol your in trouble now LOL!

Ventro69
Caldari
Manson Family
Corcoran State
Posted - 2007.10.18 09:53:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Saint Luka
They shot you without asking?

Hmm, your going too have a hard time within EVE.


Think it's a policy issue. I know BRUCE has nrds in some systems and nbsi in others. I've been telling the entire community, just operate under nbsi, it prevents stuff like this happening.

I have friends in BRUCE, they're a cool bunch. This dude will be better off just sending a mail and then moving on. Go fight Bob and make an actual difference dude.

Cvuos
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.18 10:25:00 - [7]
 

Good luck New Era. BRUCE needs all the challenges they can get. One day they will learn their True Destiny and change the face of New Eden.

Ashimar Lanora
Amarr
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
Posted - 2007.10.18 11:48:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Wusti
Its the irony and hypocrisy that I have an issue with


I wish people would really think before using the word irony....

....the fact that they're exterminating you isn't ironic. It's unfortunate.

Kyguard
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.18 11:59:00 - [9]
 

Watch out they're gonna jump a carrier on ya if they see ya in a shuttle...

Chip2k3
Caldari
Can't Decide
Posted - 2007.10.18 12:38:00 - [10]
 

in a month's time he's gonna publish a 95% efficiency with 2 1cruiser kill to 1shuttle loss Laughing



Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 12:39:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Ashimar Lanora
Originally by: Wusti
Its the irony and hypocrisy that I have an issue with


I wish people would really think before using the word irony....

....the fact that they're exterminating you isn't ironic. It's unfortunate.


Actually - the irony stems from a supposedly Anti-pirate/NRDS alliance acting in the way they did. I do however agree it was unfortunate as well. So can we call it 1-all?

The point of the post wasn't whinging or whining though, I have to stress. Peeps lose ships - and even caps all the time - thats the game and good luck & kudos to them. I'd like one on our KB too.

We just dislike the posturing - but don't mind the good excuse to launch our first proper campaign. I'm sure there are plenty of good folks in BRUCE and look forward to meeting more of them. Cool


Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 12:41:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Chip2k3
in a month's time he's gonna publish a 95% efficiency with 2 1cruiser kill to 1shuttle loss Laughing





Do BRUCE really do that? Shame on them..

Chip2k3
Caldari
Can't Decide
Posted - 2007.10.18 12:44:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Chip2k3 on 18/10/2007 12:44:32
Just out of interest did you try evemail/convo? The last time an incident like this happened (BRUCE attacking neuts) got dragged onto the forum about 3 diplomats posted saying, something to the degree of "We're sorting it, we take our reputation seriously" which they apparently do. If it's a genuine misunderstanding reimbursement might be on the cards.


lol, happended isnt a word Laughing



Saka Mizuno
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.18 12:48:00 - [14]
 

I do not believe BRUCE has ever posted killboard statistics off our own killboard. I think that poster meant you since he said "he" rather than "they".

Hadesfire
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2007.10.18 13:06:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kyguard
Watch out they're gonna jump a carrier on ya if they see ya in a shuttle...


Fleet policies require either two shuttles or at least one rookie ship before calling for capital support.

CobraBytez
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.18 13:56:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: CobraBytez on 18/10/2007 13:56:32
BRUCE is the future of Eve. Laugh all you want now, but you will see for yourself soon.

In one years time, I firmly expect the remnants of BoB to ally with BRUCE, form a coalition with Triumvirate, and finally destroy Goonswarm forever. Thus, the circle of life.

Frederick Skinner
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.18 13:56:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Wusti
Its not business - its personal.Evil or Very Mad

Remember what happened the last time someone said that?


Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 14:05:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Saka Mizuno
I do not believe BRUCE has ever posted killboard statistics off our own killboard. I think that poster meant you since he said "he" rather than "they".


Oooh! Damn - you sure?

Kyguard
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.18 14:10:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Chip2k3
"We're sorting it, we take our reputation seriously" Laughing



on the forums maybe

12oz Jesus
Caldari
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.18 14:17:00 - [20]
 

Having no illusions that any words posted in or near the CAOD can avoid being twisted, maligned, and trolled, in the interest of the full story, I'll point out that our fair narrator has left a bit out from his complaint.

Mr. Wusti was contacted by BRUCE several days prior to this event and his corporation's invitation to join the alliance with which we are at war, The OSS, was discussed. BRUCE made it clear that the war was going well for us and we were occupying the territory they had been invited into. TNERA was later spotted in that area (still neutral at this point) and numerous attempts to contact them were made by BRUCE diplomats with no response. When a capital ship showed up in an area occuppied by BRUCE and still a warzone belonging to known associates of our enemy who had chosen to ignore all attempts at diplomatic contact, well you be the judge of our reaction.

BRUCE will stand on its reputation and leave any trolling or twisting to those who would never let the facts get in the way of thier dislike of us. If you're going to tell stories, however, we'd appreciate you include the proper prologue.

Fly safe friends.

Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2007.10.18 14:51:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: 12oz Jesus
Having no illusions that any words posted in or near the CAOD can avoid being twisted, maligned, and trolled, in the interest of the full story, I'll point out that our fair narrator has left a bit out from his complaint.

Mr. Wusti was contacted by BRUCE several days prior to this event and his corporation's invitation to join the alliance with which we are at war, The OSS, was discussed. BRUCE made it clear that the war was going well for us and we were occupying the territory they had been invited into. TNERA was later spotted in that area (still neutral at this point) and numerous attempts to contact them were made by BRUCE diplomats with no response. When a capital ship showed up in an area occuppied by BRUCE and still a warzone belonging to known associates of our enemy who had chosen to ignore all attempts at diplomatic contact, well you be the judge of our reaction.

BRUCE will stand on its reputation and leave any trolling or twisting to those who would never let the facts get in the way of thier dislike of us. If you're going to tell stories, however, we'd appreciate you include the proper prologue.

Fly safe friends.


Well stated post mate - hell you nearly convinced me! No point bringing the tawdry detail of the actual sequence of events and associated chatlogs - damned undignified. Obviously we see it quite differently. Enough said. Let's leave any flaming to other threads and just agree to disagree, and keep it tidy eh?

Making stuff
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2007.10.18 15:19:00 - [22]
 

LOL BRUCE.

Im so scared

Animo06
Minmatar
The Nomad's
Posted - 2007.10.18 15:50:00 - [23]
 

You have no idea. Cool

Wesley Baird
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.10.18 17:14:00 - [24]
 

Having been involved with BRUCE for several days now, I must say they seem like a decent honorable group...can't see how anyone could dislike the entire alliance...as with any large alliance, I am sure there is the odd sweetheart...but as a group, they get the thumbs up from me.


anister
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.10.18 17:16:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Animo06
You have no idea. Cool


Neither do you, Forum code of conduct, Paragraph 3

Tevlent
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.18 17:30:00 - [26]
 

Awww, cute pubbie. Here's 2b isk.

Ezekial Crow
Gallente
Failed Diplomacy
B A N E
Posted - 2007.10.18 17:30:00 - [27]
 

Bruce is kinda like Goonswarm lite, lotsa of pilots and half the Bite. Any ways they offer Naps all the time and continue to kill you while "High Command looks it over", or break thier nerds code often as possible.

Annie Cruz
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.10.18 18:22:00 - [28]
 

As official diplomat for BRUCE, I officially diplomate our response to be "buttes"

Also "dongs"

Furthermore

CobraBytez
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.18 19:10:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Ezekial Crow
Bruce is kinda like Goonswarm lite, lotsa of pilots and half the Bite. Any ways they offer Naps all the time and continue to kill you while "High Command looks it over", or break thier nerds code often as possible.


So what you're trying to say is that they're exactly like Goonswarm.

Trytonx
Gallente
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.18 19:49:00 - [30]
 

From what I gather, you abused our NRDS policy.

Also <3 MDK, fun fights and lots to learn from you guys. Thanks for the smack free fun lately


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