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Das Lol
Gallente
Internet Space Fighters
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:08:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: Das Lol on 04/10/2007 20:09:54
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


That Warp Disruption Field is super hot.

Originally by: 4rc4ng3L
Edited by: 4rc4ng3L on 04/10/2007 20:09:12
Dumbest set of over powered modules ever, wont the cov ops cyno's simply replace Cynos???
And that new bubble will in a way prevent anything from having a chance of getting into 0.0 through a gate without a cov ops or recon or some form of cloaking ship


You're assuming it can cyno in things other than the Black ops ships.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:10:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Ena Miri
Edited by: Ena Miri on 04/10/2007 20:02:19
Originally by: Venkul Mul


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.




Those ultrafast ships immune to everything (except minnie recon or ultraexpensive overheated faction mods) needed a nerf anyway.


Oh yes, the ultrafast ship will go from 7.000 m/sec or more to 700 or more.

The "normal" ship will go from 2.000 on microwarp to 200, with 50% larger signature, and warp scrambled. All by 1 module.

Add the second and and try avoiding a gatecamp.



Hellaciouss
Genco
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:10:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Julius Romanus
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.




Thats the dumbest modual i've ever seen :\

Hope it doesnt go live.


You mean a counter to the omfghax speed ships such as the vaga/sabre/mach? Dear god no!Rolling Eyes Lets nerf it before we even know how it truly effects game play!

5amm
Quiet.Storm
Frater Adhuc Excessum
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:15:00 - [124]
 

Same ships different day Rolling Eyes

Triumdicta
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:16:00 - [125]
 

we're getting a new kind of ore?

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:17:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Julius Romanus
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.




Thats the dumbest modual i've ever seen :\

Hope it doesnt go live.


You mean a counter to the omfghax speed ships such as the vaga/sabre/mach? Dear god no!Rolling Eyes Lets nerf it before we even know how it truly effects game play!


Oh yeah, it only do the work of 3 module in one.

Can I have my railgun advanced shooting nuclear missiles with gamma ray laser warhead?

oniplE
MeMento.
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:20:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.



Perhaps the effects of this bubble are projected on the ship which deploys the bubble, instead of the ships inside it.

It makes sense for heavy interdictors, they will be deployed to catch capital ships, so you dont have to move fast. Obviously the effects are a massive downside, but the bubble cant be destroyed because its generated by a module instead of a probe, so doomsday devices or smartbombs cant destroy it.

Volker Lind
Amarr
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:21:00 - [128]
 

For all we know the final incarnation of that will be only for the heavy dictors or something.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:23:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 04/10/2007 20:24:03
About the marauder ships:

They have obviously designed around the "all tank, no gank" theory. When CCP said they were going to make T2 battleships, they would *NOT* be battleship sized HACs. This would essentially remove the purpose of HACs entirely from EVE. If you look at the Marauders, you notice 2 things:

1) Marauders about half as many hardpoints as a normal battleship.
2) Marauders have less than HACish resists. IE, Amarr Marauder has 40% exp. resists instead of 60%.

What I personally find surprising are the HACish resists on the new frigates and cruisers.

Mikelio Raijan
Celtic Anarchy
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:27:00 - [130]
 

Why are people going ape **** over the Warp disrupt field gen, did you actually look at it?
Seems to be a scrambler for jump drives, you activate it like a normal scrambler and the other 'bonuses' make it so the cap ship has a better chance to kill you.
Nothing about it says it is like a dictor sphere in any way, I mean even the icon for it is a scrambler.

ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:29:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: oniplE
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.



Perhaps the effects of this bubble are projected on the ship which deploys the bubble, instead of the ships inside it.

It makes sense for heavy interdictors, they will be deployed to catch capital ships, so you dont have to move fast. Obviously the effects are a massive downside, but the bubble cant be destroyed because its generated by a module instead of a probe, so doomsday devices or smartbombs cant destroy it.
It has range and not radius so that would seem it's a targetted module.
Much speculation so far...
Imo they should add covert ops 5 or recons 4-5 to the reqs for black ops instead of cloaking5, while also add command ships 4 as prereq for the marauders.

Gabriel Karade
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:36:00 - [132]
 

Pink...
...I mean pink?...

Why not just paint the bow armour on that Thorax purple and be done with it....

(what happened to the cool looking Duvolle-skinned Megathron?)

Scimon Tinker
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:37:00 - [133]
 

Edited by: Scimon Tinker on 04/10/2007 20:44:49
NM

Nicho Void
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:39:00 - [134]
 

Edited by: Nicho Void on 04/10/2007 20:39:55
For a community that has been *****ing for the last two months about ambulation being nothing but eye candy, there sure are a lot of you hardcore folks crying about the look of these new ships. Rolling Eyes

Bish Ounen
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:41:00 - [135]
 

What's up with the drone "bandwidth" stats? I find that very interesting. I'm definetly looking forward to adding a kierion to my hanger. (5 mid-slots in a frig. Mmmmmmm.)

Oh, and ya know, as a Bishounen, I'm ok with a pink Thorax. Laughing

Velt Lhasar
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:42:00 - [136]
 

Wheres the Black Ops amarr BS? Wheres my shiny black geddon???

Mikelio Raijan
Celtic Anarchy
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:43:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Pink...
...I mean pink?...

Why not just paint the bow armour on that Thorax purple and be done with it....

(what happened to the cool looking Duvolle-skinned Megathron?)


Yes Pink.
T2 mega looks black though, hopefully nice and shiny! (Cant wait to see the bonuses)

Pic is of the very old missile 'rax before everyone thinks you can get these things on test now and /panics more. Wink

XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:47:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Cailais
Phobos 6/4/6 module slots FIVE turret hard points
- Gallente

Devoter 7/3/6 module slots FOUR turret hard points
- Amarr

Well dont ya just know it, first draft and the Amarr Interdictor Cruisers laggin behind already......

C.



Lol, classic! Need that laugh, thank you very much Very HappyVery Happy

Nicho Void
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:50:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Cailais
Phobos 6/4/6 module slots FIVE turret hard points
- Gallente

Devoter 7/3/6 module slots FOUR turret hard points
- Amarr

Well dont ya just know it, first draft and the Amarr Interdictor Cruisers laggin behind already.......



Yes, because the Eris is such a powerhouse. Rolling Eyes It all balances out somewhere mate.

Blood Thorn
Minmatar
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:52:00 - [140]
 

Looking forward to flying these new toys. Twisted Evil

THEGREAT LOBO
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:53:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Julius Romanus
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.




Thats the dumbest modual i've ever seen :\

Hope it doesnt go live.


You mean a counter to the omfghax speed ships such as the vaga/sabre/mach? Dear god no!Rolling Eyes Lets nerf it before we even know how it truly effects game play!


Oh yeah, it only do the work of 3 module in one.

Can I have my railgun advanced shooting nuclear missiles with gamma ray laser warhead?




I really hope thats no the final stats.. the days of speed tanking are over..

Can we get clarification about that mod ? it was not mentioned anywhere before. i think i would have noticed "Huge nerf to Minmatar ships" in the last dev blog Rolling Eyes

Kirjava
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:53:00 - [142]
 

Ok - now going to get invention kit for these.
Which do you all want the most?
Probably a blackops im guessing?

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:53:00 - [143]
 

i wanna know whats up with the new rigs

Nicolai Mandrag
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:55:00 - [144]
 

The model for the Phobos isn't fitting - it has a missile launcher on its model, but no launcher hardpoints whatsoever. Should be changed.
And yea - a T2 Hyperion would be a great choice for Black Ops... the sin is hideous.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:57:00 - [145]
 

Someone pointed out this, and I just had to share
New Ore

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:57:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: oniplE
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Jimer Lins
Callistus posted this over on SHC:

New items

Covert cyno? Shocked


Warp disrupter field generator.

Wonderfull: warp disrupter and webber and target painter all in one.

Oh, pirate suffer so much and CCP hate them. Evil or Very Mad


Well, Vaga pilots can retire the ship.



Perhaps the effects of this bubble are projected on the ship which deploys the bubble, instead of the ships inside it.

It makes sense for heavy interdictors, they will be deployed to catch capital ships, so you dont have to move fast. Obviously the effects are a massive downside, but the bubble cant be destroyed because its generated by a module instead of a probe, so doomsday devices or smartbombs cant destroy it.
It has range and not radius so that would seem it's a targetted module.
Much speculation so far...
Imo they should add covert ops 5 or recons 4-5 to the reqs for black ops instead of cloaking5, while also add command ships 4 as prereq for the marauders.


Sure it is a targetedd module, only oniplE think differently.

But indipendently if it can block a Jump, it will block a warp and slow to 10% the speed of a MWD ships and add 50% target size.

Energy cost is high, but I dubt you will need that module for much time, especially is you have multiple ship with it and it is not nerf stacked between different ships.

syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:58:00 - [147]
 

So the Galletne mission battleship isn't a drone boat,.... and has crazy high stats... so all my SP in drones has been a complete waste ?


Volker Lind
Amarr
Posted - 2007.10.04 20:59:00 - [148]
 

Edited by: Volker Lind on 04/10/2007 20:58:46
oops

Slaatibartfast
Forty Two
Posted - 2007.10.04 21:00:00 - [149]
 

T2 Geddon; not black, why?

To paraphrase old mick:

"I see a gold ship and I want it painted black!"

C'mon CCP, the community's been asking for a black geddon for years, please make our shiny dreams come true YARRRR!!

Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.04 21:01:00 - [150]
 

Phobos with no Drone Bay? Thats not gallente........


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