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Medigan Kostas
Gallente
Capital Experiments
Libertas Fidelitas
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:30:00 - [1]
 

my clone has almost 960k skill points (I have a Beta clone). I played a Warlock in WoW and figured a ship with similar functions in EVE would work well for my playstyle. I could be wrong but it's an assumption to go on anyway. As to starting as a Miner, I tried Rerolling but I just couldn't get attached to the new clone. So I came back to the old one, flawed though he may be for combat types of things. My stats are the following.

Intelligence 12
Perception 7
Charisma 7
Willpower 10
Memory 17

My skills are as follows. I am debating going electronic warfare since I have the skills to be good at it and it seems warlockish. I am a Gallente Intaki and I currently fly a Catalyst.

Drones

Drones / Rank 1 / SP: 253 of 1415 level 1
Mining Drone Operation / Rank 2 / SP: 32459 of 90510 level 3

2 Drones skills trained, for a total of 32,712 skillPoints.

Electronics

Electronics / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

1 Electronics skills trained, for a total of 8,000 skillPoints.

Engineering

Engineering / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

1 Engineering skills trained, for a total of 8,000 skillPoints.

Gunnery

Gunnery / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Small Hybrid Turret / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

2 Gunnery skills trained, for a total of 16,000 skillPoints.

Industry

Industry / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Mining / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 level 5

Omber Processing / Rank 2 / SP: 16000 of 90510 level 3

Plagioclase Processing / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 level 2

Refining / Rank 1 / SP: 256000 of 256000 level 5

Scordite Processing / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Veldspar Processing / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 level 4

7 Industry skills trained, for a total of 590,670 skillPoints.

Leadership

Leadership / Rank 1 / SP: 250 of 1415 level 1

Mining Foreman / Rank 2 / SP: 90510 of 512000 level 4

2 Leadership skills trained, for a total of 90,760 skillPoints.

Learning


Analytical Mind / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Instant Recall / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 level 4

Iron Will / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Learning / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 level 4

Spatial Awareness / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

5 Learning skills trained, for a total of 114,510 skillPoints.

Mechanic

Mechanic / Rank 1 / SP: 45255 of 256000 level 4

Repair Systems / Rank 1 / SP: 250 of 1415 level 1

2 Mechanic skills trained, for a total of 45,505 skillPoints.

Missile Launcher Operation


Missile Launcher Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

Standard Missiles / Rank 2 / SP: 2829 of 16000 level 2

2 Missile Launcher Operation skills trained, for a total of 10,829 skillPoints.

Science

Cybernetics / Rank 3 / SP: 6546 of 24000 level 2

Laboratory Operation / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 level 2

Science / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

3 Science skills trained, for a total of 15,961 skillPoints.

Spaceship Command

Destroyers / Rank 2 / SP: 500 of 2829 level 1

Gallente Frigate / Rank 2 / SP: 16142 of 90510 level 3

Spaceship Command / Rank 1 / SP: 8000 of 45255 level 3

3 Spaceship Command skills trained, for a total of 24,642 skillPoints.

Trade

Trade / Rank 1 / SP: 1415 of 8000 level 2

1 Trade skills trained, for a total of 1,415 skillPoints.

I tried to do a spoiler block so the post would be shorter but to no avail. Any help with any of these questions would be appreciated.

James Potkukelkka
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:32:00 - [2]
 

what does a warlock do?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:32:00 - [3]
 

This would be more appropriate in the skills section of the forums... and since I never played WOW, I can't tell you about how a Warlock would be.

Liang

Groes Thir
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:32:00 - [4]
 

3/10 Neutral

tjergett
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:33:00 - [5]
 

Druid > Lock.

Shevar
Minmatar
Target Practice incorporated
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:35:00 - [6]
 

Gallente, they got pets (drones) and have been the flavor of the month now for pretty much a year if not more just as warlocks.

Shame you didn't ask like 3 months ago otherwise I could have said they got perfect drain ships as well, but alas the nerf to nosses kinda threw that one out of the window.

Btw prepare to be flamed Laughing.

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:36:00 - [7]
 

There are no "Warlocks" in space. End of thread...

ArrogantGod
Renegade Circus Midgets
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:37:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Medigan Kostas
I played a Warlock in WoW and figured a ship with similar functions in EVE would work well for my playstyle.



Last I heard Warlocks were the FOTM in wow.

So Caldari is probably what you are looking for.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:43:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: James Potkukelkka
what does a warlock do?


yeah, wtf is a warlock?

Lem0nparty
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:43:00 - [10]
 

WTF is WOW

Parfait M
Gallente
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:47:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: ArrogantGod

FOTM

Caldari


Lol wut?

Sauromugue
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:48:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Lem0nparty
WTF is WOW


Woman on Woman. Wink

CptEagle
Gallente
Genius Inc.
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:48:00 - [13]
 

Afaik a warlock in wow can do pretty good damage, is paper thin, can nos, and can deploy a single drone (he can carry multiple types of drones which are good at different things.

Also a warlocks drone listens to his master.

Smile

Aceoil
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2007.09.18 19:55:00 - [14]
 

Quote:
Warlocks are masters of shadow, flame, and demonic power. They are a robed class that excels at plaguing their enemies with disease or curses, hurling bolts of fire or shadow energy across the battlefield, and summoning demons to aid them in combat. While warlocks are powerful casters that deal damage from a distance, their demonic powers can also protect or support their allies in battle, or even summon other players from across the world using ritual magic to conjure portals.

Warlocks have both powerful damage spells (primarily dealing over time) and debuff spells that work well in conjunction with each other and with the abilities of their group mates. They have Curses for many occasions; in fact, they can easily be considered the best debuffers in the game. Their pets, too, help with the damage dealing and grant the Warlock extra abilities to put to use. They can also control crowds well with Seduction and Banish, and provide limited support in the form of their summoned stones.


- Ranged attacks (railguns, artilleries, missiles)
- Pets (drones)
- Calling in allied support (cyno skills)
- DOTS (no dots in this game)
- Debuff spells (web, scram, tracking disrupt, ecm, sensor dampeners)
- Support role (logistics ships)

Go for Gallente for the drones that they use. Everyone else can use drones. But a Gallente battleship (Dominix) gets a bonus to drone damage.
Then just train the skills for cyno, webifiers, warp scramblers, tracking disruptors, ECM, and sensor dampeners.
Eventually just train all frigate skills to level 4 for each race. Then you can take whatever ship out that you want for whatever the situation calls for.

Mulletstation
Havoc Inc
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:21:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Mulletstation on 18/09/2007 20:23:29
Arguably, warlocks in WoW are the best class when it comes to PvP. Their play style is to outlive their targets due to taking them out of combat (in eve= jamming) and slowly bleeding them to 0 health. I'm not sure what you'd want to fly, but this may help some of the experts help you.

Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:23:00 - [16]
 

Nos/Neut Domi ;-P


Yue Xiang
Caldari
Signus Shipyards
THREE WOLF
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:23:00 - [17]
 


Ok to explain unlike WoW, there is no way to power level through this, it takes huge investment and time,

If your looking for warlock like gameplay this is the best way i can think of to help you out,

Get All learning skills to lvl 4 first, the advanced and primary-

Train Drone Interfacing to lvl 4, train drones to lvl 5, train scout drones to lvl 4

Get engineering lvl 4-5,
Get electronics to lvl 4-5
makesure to get propulsion jamming lvl 3
and energy systems + grid to lvl 4

makesure to get battlecruisers to lvl4 and cruisers to lvl 4

makesure to have mechanics lvl 4-5, repairsystems lvl 4-5 and have hull upgrades lvl 4-5, and armor compensation skills all 4 of them to lvl 2-3

makesure navigation is lvl 4-5 and evasive manuvering lvl 4-5

for gunnery makesure to get, surgical strike, rapid firing, weapons upgrades, advanced weapons upgrades, trajectory, and range skills all to lvl 4, get either a choice of blasters or rails,

all this training will take at mininum maybe 3-4 months and u will be flying like a pro, lol i know it looks really hard and confusing but these are the base skills you WILL NEED to survive in this game,





Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:25:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Asestorian on 18/09/2007 20:26:09
I don't think there is any specific ship class that you could aim for to fulfil your desires to be a warlock. In EVE you generally have a selection of ships, and use the most appropriate one for a situation, rather than a single, can-do-anything, ship. In fact, trying to fit your ship to do all things at once makes you a guaranteed kill if you go into combat to be honest.

I'm struggling to think of things that really fit well with what a warlock does. I suppose Gallente are the most obvious option when it comes to the pet, in that they have the biggest selection of drone specific ships, but beyond that, it's a little difficult.

There is no such thing as a DOT in this game, so that ones out completely. There aren't really debuffs either. The closest thing is ECM, specifically things like dampeners or tracking disruptors, which do actually decrease stats. You've also got NOS/Neuts for sucking/killing cap, and I think warlocks do something similar, so they kind of help. Gallente have ships that can be fit well to do many of these things.

Yeah.. That's about all I can think of really. The only problem here though is that the Gallente gunships are almost always close range. This is mostly because except in large gangs, long ranges are undesirable in combat, due to the nature of the warp scramblers and the like, as well as long range attacks being generally weaker.

Ships I'd go for if I wanted to be a "warlock" would probably be: Ishkur, Vexor, Ishtar, Myrmidon, Eos, Dominix. Drones, often fitted with some NOS/Neuts, and are also often fitted with things like dampeners I believe. That's the closest I can think of.

Khadur
Minmatar
Vigilante inc.
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:27:00 - [19]
 

Warlock = Raven =D

Durethia
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:30:00 - [20]
 

WoW is World of Warcraft?

If you're coming from warcraft, then here's a few things to keep in mind.

1) You will die, there is no safe spot; so don't complain about CCPs apathy.
2) You can't grind your way to the top; you have to fight your way there.
3) If you want the easy route, pick Caldari as most newbies do.

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:35:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Durethia
WoW is World of Warcraft?

If you're coming from warcraft, then here's a few things to keep in mind.

1) You will die, there is no safe spot; so don't complain about CCPs apathy.
2) You can't grind your way to the top; you have to fight your way there.
3) If you want the easy route, pick Caldari as most newbies do.


And read this.

DirtyHarry
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:35:00 - [22]
 

If you are serious - warlock = curse (its a recon), also 960k sp is nothing if you want to "reroll" do it now.

Salpad
Caldari
Carebears with Attitude
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:38:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
This would be more appropriate in the skills section of the forums... and since I never played WOW, I can't tell you about how a Warlock would be.

Liang


He's asking what ship he should fly. Which of the ships in EVE that has abilities (or bonuss for abilities) most similar to those abilities that a Warlock has in World of Warcraft.

However, noobish as I am, I don't think the question makes much sense. I have played a Warlock in WoW, and they do two things: One is they have a large, tough pet that can tank, and the other is that they cast Damage-over-Time spells (DoT). The later doesn't have an analogous phenomena in EVE, but as for pets I imagine that'd be drones of some kind.

I know nothing about drones, except mining ones, so I have to step down and ask others to take over.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:41:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Salpad
Originally by: Liang Nuren
This would be more appropriate in the skills section of the forums... and since I never played WOW, I can't tell you about how a Warlock would be.

Liang


He's asking what ship he should fly. Which of the ships in EVE that has abilities (or bonuss for abilities) most similar to those abilities that a Warlock has in World of Warcraft.

However, noobish as I am, I don't think the question makes much sense. I have played a Warlock in WoW, and they do two things: One is they have a large, tough pet that can tank, and the other is that they cast Damage-over-Time spells (DoT). The later doesn't have an analogous phenomena in EVE, but as for pets I imagine that'd be drones of some kind.

I know nothing about drones, except mining ones, so I have to step down and ask others to take over.




Jajajaja in that case he should play a fleet commander. Laughing

Liang

Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Punic Corp.
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:45:00 - [25]
 

Going by the descriptions here of what a "Warlock" is like in WoW, I'd say you want the Amarr Recon ships.

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2007.09.18 20:45:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Salpad
Originally by: Liang Nuren
This would be more appropriate in the skills section of the forums... and since I never played WOW, I can't tell you about how a Warlock would be.

Liang


He's asking what ship he should fly. Which of the ships in EVE that has abilities (or bonuss for abilities) most similar to those abilities that a Warlock has in World of Warcraft.

However, noobish as I am, I don't think the question makes much sense. I have played a Warlock in WoW, and they do two things: One is they have a large, tough pet that can tank, and the other is that they cast Damage-over-Time spells (DoT). The later doesn't have an analogous phenomena in EVE, but as for pets I imagine that'd be drones of some kind.

I know nothing about drones, except mining ones, so I have to step down and ask others to take over.




Jajajaja in that case he should play a fleet commander. Laughing

Liang


Laughing

But seriously. To Salpad: Drones cannot tank. They are flimsy little things designed either to do some damage, or to do another specific job like try to jam, web or neut the target.

Maaku
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:10:00 - [27]
 

Wait for ambulation, go to Jita, summon your Doomguard, send it after the horde of people in one of the casino/bars, only to have it pulverized under a barrage of small arms fire.

Jirai Grepher
Gallente
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:26:00 - [28]
 

Drones are more likes a Dot than a pet.


Warlocks have to micromanage their DoT's - Drone pilots need to micromanage their drones.

Dots are a fire and forget type of offense - Drones other than FoF missles are the closest thing u got.

Paulo Damarr
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:31:00 - [29]
 

How the hell can you compare a Wizard/warlock or whatever to space ships?

Marux
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.09.18 21:36:00 - [30]
 

Gallente, our drones will blot out the sun! Especially the Templar.


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