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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Tague Corp
Posted - 2007.09.13 10:02:00 - [1]
 

Hey,

I just remembered that there is a China server. Hows it been doing recently? Anyone got any stories from it? Does that guy from the China server still post here somewhere?

Just curious that all. :)

Cornucopian
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.09.13 10:03:00 - [2]
 

900-2000 people online at any given moment. or as on colloquial terms: a bloody waste of time and money.

Ifni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.09.13 10:53:00 - [3]
 


Cornucopian
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.09.13 10:58:00 - [4]
 

well, there we have it: PCU on serenity has been dropping since last year september from 8k PCU to 3K PCU.

i.e. 50% of chinese capsuleers have quit.

i.e. its losing money and is a waste of time.

i.e. cut losses and fix the issues with the tranquility server.

sorry....

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:07:00 - [5]
 

Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?

Xoria Krint
The Empyreans
Fifth Freedom
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:09:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


Vacuum

Kaar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:11:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


No one to buy the isk?

Wink

Cornucopian
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:14:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


there are alliances in tranquility that are bigger than the entire PCU on serenity.

tranq is 10x bigger than serenity: there is no one online there. So it's just a waste of money. CCP maintains a China office just for serenity, this costs a hell of a lot of money which would be better spent on the tranq server. The PCU rate has been dropping consistently for the past 12 months: there wasnt one month where EVE was growing in China, ergo it is dying. Business 101: if something sucks and is costing you money, get out of it as fast as possible.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:14:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Cornucopian
well, there we have it: PCU on serenity has been dropping since last year september from 8k PCU to 3K PCU.

i.e. 50% of chinese capsuleers have quit.

i.e. its losing money and is a waste of time.

i.e. cut losses and fix the issues with the tranquility server.

sorry....


I thought CCP just licensed it and didn't run it directly.

Brisi
Caldari
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:14:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Brisi on 13/09/2007 11:15:50
Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


POS's being there from the beginning of the game has had a very poor effect on the game.

Not having Dreads or Carriers to blow up said POS's until a year later had the same effect.

People knowing how the tech II lottery worked, and therefore training up tons of alts to get all the BPO's has been detrimental to the game.

Having one alliance (run by one rich individual) taking over all 0.0 space by just POS spamming everything, then paying people rl cash to fight for him, has completely destroyed anything that was left.

Only thing that can save it, is to completely restart the game. And introduce stuff at the same rate that stuff got on to TQ, tech II ships, POS's and so on and so forth. Unfortunately, I think it's already too late.


ZEUUL
Amarr
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:15:00 - [11]
 

I assume Tranquility players cannot cross over into Serenity whenever, to reduce lag issues then?

I have a Chinese dictionary just in case CCP decides to do so...Me and my Blade Runner hype...

so erm..with all those quitters, can I get their stuff?

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:15:00 - [12]
 

BTW the fate of Serenity is a good answer to those who say "Let's have new EvE shards".

Cornucopian
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.09.13 11:17:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Cornucopian on 13/09/2007 11:20:00
furthermore the chinese communist party views gaming much like a dangerous drug: they are currently proposing a popup every half hour from the police that says something in the line of: you no play play more no more! you make rice for PLA now! you go go back to village and make rice, not isk!!! you bad man!

edit: not in eve, but just when online: you get some state sanctioned I.E. popup every half hour.....

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2007.09.13 12:02:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Cornucopian
Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


there are alliances in tranquility that are bigger than the entire PCU on serenity.

tranq is 10x bigger than serenity: there is no one online there. So it's just a waste of money. CCP maintains a China office just for serenity, this costs a hell of a lot of money which would be better spent on the tranq server. The PCU rate has been dropping consistently for the past 12 months: there wasnt one month where EVE was growing in China, ergo it is dying. Business 101: if something sucks and is costing you money, get out of it as fast as possible.


Basically you have to learn that CCP is not directly running the game, but has licensed it to a company there. They have put time indeed to develop the server there, but as stated back then this outsourcing (of sorts) helped to resolve some issues in TQ (gave the devs some ideas).

Cornucopian
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.09.13 12:13:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Cornucopian
Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


there are alliances in tranquility that are bigger than the entire PCU on serenity.

tranq is 10x bigger than serenity: there is no one online there. So it's just a waste of money. CCP maintains a China office just for serenity, this costs a hell of a lot of money which would be better spent on the tranq server. The PCU rate has been dropping consistently for the past 12 months: there wasnt one month where EVE was growing in China, ergo it is dying. Business 101: if something sucks and is costing you money, get out of it as fast as possible.


Basically you have to learn that CCP is not directly running the game, but has licensed it to a company there. They have put time indeed to develop the server there, but as stated back then this outsourcing (of sorts) helped to resolve some issues in TQ (gave the devs some ideas).


outsourcing/franchising stuff always costs a lot of money. EVE China is no succes, so CCP should cut off all support to the 3rd party they have sold it to in China. I doubt the contract CCP has with them has a 99 year lease or something THAT stupid. in short, its a dead weight.

I'm sure the 3000 eve players in china will agree with me! Twisted EvilTwisted Evil

Sportapro
Posted - 2007.09.13 12:28:00 - [16]
 

lol, cumon guys,
i really doubt ccp would still run it if they were loosing so much money on it with no future plans.
or its just maybe if they close Serenity they will completely destroy their name on the chinese market

Hammerfall Ceo
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
Posted - 2007.09.13 12:33:00 - [17]
 

I got Inside-information from KOS alliance: They are planning to move on to the China server...

Skynet91
Posted - 2007.09.13 17:28:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Skynet91 on 13/09/2007 17:28:40
the potential for a Chinese eve server is huge, all it would take is some advertising and bang im sure the game would grow hugely over their specially with the new graphics engine, which means more money to spend! on a 100million dollar mainframe to run the game without lag :D! (for TQ of cause the chinese servers can stick with out old hardware >.>)

Petrothian Tong
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.13 17:36:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Brisi
Edited by: Brisi on 13/09/2007 11:15:50
Originally by: cal nereus
Just out of curiosity for those not in the know, why does Serenity suck so much?


POS's being there from the beginning of the game has had a very poor effect on the game.

Not having Dreads or Carriers to blow up said POS's until a year later had the same effect.

People knowing how the tech II lottery worked, and therefore training up tons of alts to get all the BPO's has been detrimental to the game.

Having one alliance (run by one rich individual) taking over all 0.0 space by just POS spamming everything, then paying people rl cash to fight for him, has completely destroyed anything that was left.

Only thing that can save it, is to completely restart the game. And introduce stuff at the same rate that stuff got on to TQ, tech II ships, POS's and so on and so forth. Unfortunately, I think it's already too late.




This guy hit the nail on the head here.

if people here think newbs have a hard time competing against established forces...

it would be impossible over there.

(lets face it, POS spam and knowleage of mechanics gave those who played here a HUGE advantage.)

last I checked 0.0 is dominated by 2 alliances duking it out...

but that was awhile ago.


 

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