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Liang Nuren
Posted - 2007.09.05 21:10:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Reto
helios. its 10% thermal drone dmg is soooo awsome ....only flaw is the awsomeley large 5m dronebay.


O_O I'd argue that the Helios is the *best* covops ship... personally. Maybe the minnie covops is better for speed, but not in versatility and usefulness.

Liang

king jks
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
Posted - 2007.09.05 21:23:00 - [62]
 

I don't agree with people about the apoc, since its the only really viable (in my opinion) sniper ship for amarr. Geddon with rof bonus will cap out, and 3 mids = no MWD in most cases, and if you do you'll have **** range. Abaddon = lol @ 80 cap per turret to fire. Cap really is a problem for amarr ships in fleets, since from the limited time I actually flew one I found myself constantly having to turn off 3 of the turrets just to keep my cap at 30%, but that may just be my ****ty skills <_<

Soros
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.09.05 23:44:00 - [63]
 

pre-dictors helios was the ultimate ceptor beater. Search kujin on eve-search and checkout one of his videos.

Ath Amon
Posted - 2007.09.05 23:50:00 - [64]
 

due to huge amount of isk it needs, massive training and extremely poor performance compared to other ships in its class...

Naglfar Rolling Eyes

Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
Posted - 2007.09.06 00:26:00 - [65]
 

Procurer. With Frigate IV-V and Miner IIs, a Bantam will mine faster. . . Unless the Procurer pilot is using a T2 strip, T2 crystals, and has Barge V.

Almost any other ship I can find SOME purpose for (and bait counts), Procurers exist only as raw materials for Skiffs.

ViolenTUK
Gallente
Demolition Men
Posted - 2007.09.06 03:05:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: ViolenTUK on 06/09/2007 03:06:58
Execuror has to be the uglyist ship ever conceived. i wont use it for that very reason wouldnt care if it is good or not.

xHalcyonx
Amarr
About To Die
Predatory Instincts
Posted - 2007.09.06 03:09:00 - [67]
 

For those haters who dislike the Bellicose hull, just wait until the Trinity 2 Graphics Engine is up and running!

Nicholas Riff
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.06 03:12:00 - [68]
 

CARACAL it has no use at all cant pvp needs mids for tank, cant pve cause it has no good firpower and tank is like paper, and mining psh who cares Very Happy

MInvarn
Posted - 2007.09.06 03:41:00 - [69]
 

To be Perfectly Honnest, theres a lot of bad ships:
Nightmare: 1Billion isk for a typhoon with lazorz...
Heron: Ever seen one of these used? Me Neither. I blame the wasted (Astrometrics) Bonus mostly, oh, and it has the firepower of a noob ship.
Breacher: Kessie is so much better, its disgusting.
Any Amarr Frigate (except the punisher): Slow, frigs can't tank well enough, not enough cap to tank and lazor anyway.
Bellicose. I'll admit to loving the look, for some strange reason, but seriously, why?!
Moa: Epic Fail at being a sniper.

In the Industrial world...
Badger mk I and Wreathe: hold overs for around 3 hours untill you can get your indi skill at level 3, afterwhich point there is ZERO use for them.


Really, theres a lot of ships that need to be rethought at least a little....

Calisto Cody
Minmatar
The Black Swan Society
Posted - 2007.09.06 04:30:00 - [70]
 

Augoror

fitting it is a nighmare :(

Bobby Martin
Posted - 2007.09.07 21:55:00 - [71]
 

Hawk.

I have one and burried under a big pile of dust. completly useless.

ITTigerClawIK
Amarr
Galactic Rangers
Galactic-Rangers
Posted - 2007.09.07 22:25:00 - [72]
 

augy hasa use its a logistics ship not the best but still very good at what it does and quite a few of the other ships people have mentioned have good uses,

thouhg i think the only ship i find useless, is the Crucifyer thats the only one really, and i msut say amarrs ugglyest ship even the anthema has better looks than it does as well as better uses but yea cruicifyer, wish we had the magnet insted of it

welsh wizard
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2007.09.07 22:32:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Ishina Fel
...no ships really outperform some others in their class badly, except those above....


What about the Sabre and the Eos? :P


I think you missed the "outperform others in their class badly" part.

For instance, the Heretic is pretty good now.

Also, I'd rather have a Claymore / Sleip / Astarte in my gang than an Eos. The Eos is very, very good, but overrated. It's not *that* imba. Also, the new Damnation is seeexy.

Liang


The sabre is still hands down the daddy dictor as far as I'm concerned.

Also the Eos is a fleet command ship which isn't in the same class as the sleip or Astarte. As far as fleet commands go I reckon the Eos far outperforms the others even after the nos nerf.

ViperVenom
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.07 22:39:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Augoror

In my EVE lifetime i saw only 2 of which one was mine... abt 3 years ago.


I use it as my Cyno boat...lol

ViperVenom
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.07 22:43:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Ath Amon
due to huge amount of isk it needs, massive training and extremely poor performance compared to other ships in its class...

Naglfar Rolling Eyes


What the Nag rocks after you spend 4 Years training up all the skills nedded..
If u fly a Nag..you have maxxed(or should) Armor/Shield Guns/Missles So now u can fly any dread if u have B5.. Thank god for Faction Ammo

Aces Israel
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.09.08 02:33:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Aces Israel on 08/09/2007 02:33:38
Originally by: Nicholas Riff
CARACAL it has no use at all cant pvp needs mids for tank, cant pve cause it has no good firpower and tank is like paper, and mining psh who cares Very Happy


I really disagree.

PvE Caracal = easy button for level 2 missions, even with mediocre skills

PvP Caracal = http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_36&page=1 (see battle 3 and 15)

Sure, it's no omg-wtf-solopwnmobile, but it's a pretty useful ship in a gang.

Rudy Metallo
Veto.
Posted - 2007.09.08 05:02:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 08/09/2007 05:02:53
Purifier.

Worst ship of the worst class.

Badhands
Gallente
Posted - 2007.09.08 05:46:00 - [78]
 

Gila. Nuff said.

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.09.08 06:14:00 - [79]
 

Iteron II.

Honestly, who pilots an Iteron II? I understand Iteron I for someone just fresh to the industrial ship path, but its so easy to get an Iteron III after that... why stop over at the Iteron II? Confused

Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
Posted - 2007.09.08 06:27:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: xHalcyonx
For those haters who dislike the Bellicose hull, just wait until the Trinity 2 Graphics Engine is up and running!


The flying X of death?

Well it fits matari design theory but it needs more widgets glued on it in my opinion

TheOnlyProphet
Amarr
Altus Provisio
Posted - 2007.09.08 06:37:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Testy Mctest
A ship flown by a bad player is the worst ship in Eve, regardless of the shiptype.


Well Stated

Minaras Laentic
The Athiest Syndicate
Posted - 2007.09.08 07:15:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Bobby Martin
Hawk.

I have one and burried under a big pile of dust. completly useless.


I agree 100%

and would u guys stop teh hating on the bellicoseCrying or Very sad It's not great in most scenarios, but it serves it purpose extremely well.

Bombardier 395
Posted - 2007.09.08 12:46:00 - [83]
 

ships for trips, horses for courses, the worst ship is the one you just lost YARRRR!!

Jarmon Karlentis
Caldari
Setenta Corp
Posted - 2007.09.08 13:09:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: ViperVenom
Originally by: Ath Amon
due to huge amount of isk it needs, massive training and extremely poor performance compared to other ships in its class...

Naglfar Rolling Eyes


What the Nag rocks after you spend 4 Years training up all the skills nedded..
If u fly a Nag..you have maxxed(or should) Armor/Shield Guns/Missles So now u can fly any dread if u have B5.. Thank god for Faction Ammo


Who cares about how good it is. It's goddamm vertical!!!

Kermis
Caldari
1st Steps Academy
Tread Alliance
Posted - 2007.09.08 13:11:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Kermis on 08/09/2007 13:11:45
Hawk. Worse DPS than it's t1 counterpart. Slightly better tank and slot layout, but totally lacks the grid and CPU to fit properly. Vastly outclassed by any other assault frig!

lyrenna
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
Posted - 2007.09.08 14:00:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Reto
helios. its 10% thermal drone dmg is soooo awsome ....only flaw is the awsomeley large 5m dronebay.


that 5 m^3 drone bay saved ass of a rokh and a mega, true story.

SpaceTrucker 3000
Posted - 2007.09.09 00:39:00 - [87]
 

Bellicose, no contest. It's a useless piece of ****.

Kadoes Khan
Posted - 2007.09.09 03:13:00 - [88]
 

I'd say moa for worst cruiser, whoever thought the idea of having a good sniper ship with tank bonuses was probably smoking the same thing as Nicholas and his crazy thoughts on the caracal.Very Happy

GeronimoDK
House of Tempers
Posted - 2007.09.09 07:38:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Procurer. With Frigate IV-V and Miner IIs, a Bantam will mine faster. . . Unless the Procurer pilot is using a T2 strip, T2 crystals, and has Barge V.

Almost any other ship I can find SOME purpose for (and bait counts), Procurers exist only as raw materials for Skiffs.


I agree 100%! The procurer is useless!

Lucy Ford
Posted - 2007.09.09 07:41:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Lucy Ford on 09/09/2007 07:41:42
Worst frig - amarr's 6th frig Very Happy
Worst destroyer - Cormorant...just because it has 7 TURRET hardpoints Shocked
Worst cruiser - Moa w/o a doubt...i mean wtf!?
Worst bc - Ferox
Worst bs - Phoon...nanonerf just made it kinda useless for pvp tbh...even a scorp does a better job
Worst indy - Iteron I, II and IV (for the reasons stated above)
Worst AF - Hawk
Worst Inty - Raptor (instapoppage ftl)

Won't get into anything else b/c there is simply no such thing as worst CS, worst HAC, worst Logistic ship, worst Transport OR worst capital.

BUT...i have to say that the grand prize of worst ship EVER goes to ERIS!
Whoever doesn't agree with this deserves to get slapped around with a large trout Smile


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