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Adelorae24
Caldari
Limited Mercy
Posted - 2007.08.24 18:20:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Mazare Mircea
Originally by: 3yeb4ll
I'll correct you.

We smack more than a deranged nanny in a nursery full of ADD kids, and what's more you LOVE IT. But sometimes - only sometimes - we can be arsed to type "gf" in local.


Yeah yeah ... i've also heard of the loch ness monster. :)))



We say "gf" to those who deserve it. Like the handfull of corps who have actually brought a real fight (i.e. MC, Repo, a few others). Now go find another post to whine back some of your lost respect in.

Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.24 18:29:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Bosie
Guess it did take peer pressure for you to do the right thing.

Before this event I held no feelings about you. Now I know you are a tightfisted sore looser who squelches on a bet by trying to change the rules who then pays up to try and save face.

This is one Eve player who will now not trust you in to be in charge of a pile of buffalo dung.


I had a lot of respect for Veto. When Verone posted, I seriously paused and considered this. Your contributions to Eve under the Veto flag seriously undermines Veto. This was never about ISK. I lost 4 billion ISK last night in one hand of poker. I'm the bank; people deposit their funds with me. Not paying would have been easy. This was about not agreeing with the course of action Siren took, not the ISK.

Stop lowering the collective IQ level of Veto and join a different corp.

JadalofOblivion
Amarr
PURE Legion
death from above..
Posted - 2007.08.24 18:35:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax
Honestly, this is my last post in this thread.

After the fight last night, I told Siren that I was going to compile screenshots, tell the story to the public, and let them decide on what to do. If the communal decision was that I owed Siren money, I would have paid up. I sent Siren his 500 million back, then Eve went down, and I got a 404 on the forums. I went to bed.

Siren's past experience with me, involving large sums of money should have told him to leave it alone until I had time to deal with it. And I'm prompt on these kind of things.

He chose to approach it in this fashion. Honestly, I wish I had kept his 500m too, as payment for the crap in this thread. The last (and only) time that there was a problem in my tournament, I did the same thing. I created a thread, laid out the story, my opponent weighed in (pretty much agreeing with the story) and we let the community decide on the best thing to do. I intended to do the same. I have no issue telling a story from a neutral point of view.

Like I said, Siren pre-empted me by telling the story that he did, scripted like it was, through his various posts in this thread. I woke up and got into it three pages in. Paying him 1.25 billion ISK at this point is a wasted effort. It would be rewarding him for slandering me. He knew that I was good for it; we've dealt such stakes in poker. Its unfortunate that he took the route he did, but he chose his path. Until he wrote this thread, this could have been amicably resolved.

*shrugs* In his shoes, I would not have chosen to proceed this way, but he did - and I presume he knew what the consequences would be. The chances of me paying the man went from (well, given the communal thoughts here - 100%) to 0% when he created this thread.

Siren, if you read this later - I told you I'd take care of it. I told you what I was going to do, and how I was going to resolve it. Shame on you for this half story. =p

I'm just a nub. Grain of salt and all.

Always enjoyed your well reasoned posts. It's nice when someone doesn't throw out common sense just because they are on the internet.

Enjoy your songs too. But......

You are wrong.

No need for me to break it down for you. You know you are wrong.

Bosie
THE C0RP
Posted - 2007.08.24 18:36:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Bosie
Guess it did take peer pressure for you to do the right thing.

Before this event I held no feelings about you. Now I know you are a tightfisted sore looser who squelches on a bet by trying to change the rules who then pays up to try and save face.

This is one Eve player who will now not trust you in to be in charge of a pile of buffalo dung.


I had a lot of respect for Veto. When Verone posted, I seriously paused and considered this. Your contributions to Eve under the Veto flag seriously undermines Veto. This was never about ISK. I lost 4 billion ISK last night in one hand of poker. I'm the bank; people deposit their funds with me. Not paying would have been easy. This was about not agreeing with the course of action Siren took, not the ISK.

Stop lowering the collective IQ level of Veto and join a different corp.


Ad hominem just goes further to tar your burnt name.

Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Standards and Practices
Posted - 2007.08.24 20:22:00 - [245]
 

Out of curiosity....

How does one play poker in eve? Certainly would make for good poker faces.

Might have to dig up the bag of money :)

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.24 20:25:00 - [246]
 

Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2007 20:43:10
Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2007 20:25:55
Originally by: Adelorae24
Originally by: Mazare Mircea
Originally by: 3yeb4ll
I'll correct you.

We smack more than a deranged nanny in a nursery full of ADD kids, and what's more you LOVE IT. But sometimes - only sometimes - we can be arsed to type "gf" in local.


Yeah yeah ... i've also heard of the loch ness monster. :)))



We say "gf" to those who deserve it. Like the handfull of corps who have actually brought a real fight (i.e. MC, Repo, a few others). Now go find another post to whine back some of your lost respect in.


That wasn't a whine. A whine would have a purpose and would be motivated by an interest ... and i had none, that was just a statement.
I was reading a thread about Rak vs MC on eve-o some time ago and decided to look up the stats on MC KB. From what I recall you lost 20-30 ships and killed just one of theirs - i think it was a Taranis. In the same time, you were smacking and whining on the thread about how unfair it was for 2 maxed CS pilots to camp your 7-8 guys in the station. Now after reading that and some first hand experience with you guys, it is very hard for me to believe that you would say "gf".
You are not the type to say "gf". You are proud of blobbing, of dishonoring 1:1's, of annoying ppl into deccing you, of smacking in local, of baiting n00bs with can flags. If you win you will smack them for "being n00bs"; if you lose you will smack them for anything you could think of.
This is not a whine about e-honor or anything like that, it is simply how you behave and how you like to be viewed by others.
Am I wrong in anything I have written so far ?

PS: There was no lost respect towards RAK and there was no gained respect for RAK. You are what you are and you behave as such.

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.24 20:27:00 - [247]
 

Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2007 20:47:52
Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2007 20:42:09
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Bosie
Guess it did take peer pressure for you to do the right thing.

Before this event I held no feelings about you. Now I know you are a tightfisted sore looser who squelches on a bet by trying to change the rules who then pays up to try and save face.

This is one Eve player who will now not trust you in to be in charge of a pile of buffalo dung.


I had a lot of respect for Veto. When Verone posted, I seriously paused and considered this. Your contributions to Eve under the Veto flag seriously undermines Veto. This was never about ISK. I lost 4 billion ISK last night in one hand of poker. I'm the bank; people deposit their funds with me. Not paying would have been easy. This was about not agreeing with the course of action Siren took, not the ISK.

Stop lowering the collective IQ level of Veto and join a different corp.


... now I know you are a fool, a proud fool who can't stand to lose. :)

I was thinking of calling you misguided, but misguided individuals actually believe the stupidities they spew. Neah, you are a fool.
750m ISK was nothing and a huge percentage of the posters so far said "you are wrong". You worked to build up a rep in a community for a lot of time, posted like crazy, tried to bring attention to yourself, only to kill it for a lousy 750m ISK and some pride for "never been defeated".

In the end you showed your true colours. You are yellow, a coward for returning the ISK. You didn't return it because you were convinced you were wrong. You returned it because your audience requested.
You caved in, and I would like to see a parody made by you about your lack of spine - like that is ever going to see the light of day.
You chose to play this game on eve-o as a "community leader".
Verone is another community leader in EVE, and he posted in this thread also that you are wrong. Furthermore, one of his members - and Bosie is not a 6 months guy which has just joined VETO, also posted about how wrong you are.
Although Bosie is not a eve-o forum warrior, you have just ... annoyed a old member of one of the best viewed corps/alliances in EVE.
This is a huge mistake.

Nobody trusts you now, they know you are a fraud, they know what you fit, they know that you don't like to lose, they know that if you lose you will not give the ISK unless community pressure is placed upon you and you have probably alienated another big part of the community by insulting Bosie.

You are a fool. :)

PS: Your punch-line so far was "if you have the pair, take me on a 1:1 and see if you win".
Who will fall for it from now on ?

Nocturnal Avenger
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.24 20:47:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax
This was never about ISK.


The person winning the fight, would probably disagree - as was also the case.

Anyway - I bet you could be a decent pirate if you tried. You know - the kind that does not honour ransoms YARRRR!!

Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.24 21:00:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Mazare Mircea

Nobody trusts you now, they know you are a fraud, they know what you fit...blah blah flaming...


Interestingly, my day to day life in Eve hasn't changed. Erm...exaggerate much? *snickers* The rest of the rubbish you just posted; Verone posted his thoughts, and did so succinctly. That's why I paid attention to them. Bosie just flames a lot.

Think what you will, that I'm a scammer now - all I see is you trying to put together an excuse later should I call you out on somehow being even more ******ed in a forum post; you can say "nowai you wouldn't honor a 1v1 anyway"


To answer the poker question, visit channel "Axe Hold'Em"


hUssmann
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.08.24 21:04:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: hUssmann on 24/08/2007 23:10:40
nvm

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.24 21:18:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Mazare Mircea

Nobody trusts you now, they know you are a fraud, they know what you fit...blah blah flaming...


Interestingly, my day to day life in Eve hasn't changed. Erm...exaggerate much? *snickers* The rest of the rubbish you just posted; Verone posted his thoughts, and did so succinctly. That's why I paid attention to them. Bosie just flames a lot.

Think what you will, that I'm a scammer now - all I see is you trying to put together an excuse later should I call you out on somehow being even more ******ed in a forum post; you can say "nowai you wouldn't honor a 1v1 anyway"


To answer the poker question, visit channel "Axe Hold'Em"




You give yourself importance m8. Call me out ?
What do you think this is ... a duel at sunset when the bell rings ?
You will call me from a line of many, i will shiver, i will take my place and i will fall. HA !
This is a internet spaceship mmorpg, and i really don't give anything about what you might think of me. I stand by my decisions, i do honor 1:1's and ransoms. Unlike you I have died in a 1:1, and I have won 1:1's without taking days and days to research my opponent. When i go in a 1:1 I am prepared to lose my ship, unlike you.

Your day in EVE has not changed yet. This thread was posted less than 36hs ago. It needs time to affect the minds of many.
I don't think your a scammer. I think your a coward who doesn't have the spine to stand by his decisions. You didn't give the isk because you changed your mind, you did it because many people asked you to give it back. You continue to say that you were cheated by faulty game mechanics, you still can't/won't say that you lost.

Shall we see what the input is in 3-4 weeks maybe ?

Ryan Darkwolf
Amarr
Sins Of Lost Souls
Einherjar Alliance
Posted - 2007.08.24 23:13:00 - [252]
 

Hey Mazare...if I'm not mistaken...Curzon has lost twice already...making this his third time...He wasn't trying to save his "Undefeated Title"...He was mainly ****ed off that Siren had created the thread in a negative light instead of the nuetral one that it should have been (you know without all the bias and crap). I believe that if Siren had posted all the facts without making the "Curzon backed out on a deal" it woul have been resolved a lot sooner.

Adelorae24
Caldari
Limited Mercy
Posted - 2007.08.24 23:44:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Mazare Mircea
I don't think your a scammer. I think your a coward who doesn't have the spine to stand by his decisions. You didn't give the isk because you changed your mind, you did it because many people asked you to give it back. You continue to say that you were cheated by faulty game mechanics, you still can't/won't say that you lost.

Shall we see what the input is in 3-4 weeks maybe ?


Looks like you and I are in full agreement at least on the Curzon issue. Spot on man... Maybe you're not so bad after all. Wink

Alpha Sentori
Cayman Holdings
Posted - 2007.08.25 00:29:00 - [254]
 

WOW, still goingRolling Eyes

I wondered about the stake and payout also but they're your rules and you eventually paid so fair enough.

I think you have a bit of making up to do for the forums to take you seriously in the future.

You do care what we think man, otherwise you wouldn't post here at all inviting comment.

Can we close this thread now?

Alpha

UPA Terf
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2007.08.25 00:37:00 - [255]
 

Holy...this thread still open? Put simply this should have been a private matter...and even when it was settled why are their still people complaining i mean its the most pointless thread on the board now because not only does it lack content its turned into some kind of witch hunt. Just let it die and stop ganging up on the bloke who actually puts himself out there.

redialer
Minmatar
The African Contingency
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.08.25 01:07:00 - [256]
 

lock for shame

worst excuse ever!

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.08.25 04:22:00 - [257]
 

shouldn't have paid $%^& all man, the name and shame game was a complete BS move when he admits you said you would clear it up

Krystian
Caldari
Clown Punchers.
Clown Punchers Syndicate
Posted - 2007.08.25 06:10:00 - [258]
 

Edited by: Krystian on 25/08/2007 06:10:01

Originally by: Siren Sylvanis

Although your wish that I die in a green fire that smells like rotten eggs while listening to Bon Jovi and naked except for a sun bonnet as compromising pictures are taken of me seems to indicate that I shall just have to be even more ruthless to you at the poker tables.


A. Whats wrong with Bon Jovi?
B. Whens the next strip poker game?
C. All the men there wear bonnets and smell of green rotten eggs?

If so I am so there. Very Happy


Siren Sylvanis
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
Posted - 2007.08.25 10:42:00 - [259]
 

Haven't been having your fill of naked men in bonnets since I left NoQ, huh?

I guess it isn't the same =(

Mazare Mircea
Gallente
Posted - 2007.08.25 11:22:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: Adelorae24
Originally by: Mazare Mircea
I don't think your a scammer. I think your a coward who doesn't have the spine to stand by his decisions. You didn't give the isk because you changed your mind, you did it because many people asked you to give it back. You continue to say that you were cheated by faulty game mechanics, you still can't/won't say that you lost.

Shall we see what the input is in 3-4 weeks maybe ?


Looks like you and I are in full agreement at least on the Curzon issue. Spot on man... Maybe you're not so bad after all. Wink


This is definitely an epic event - I'm bookrmarking it. :)

Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:29:00 - [261]
 

payment aside, that type of setup is just sad and reflects poorly on the "Eve Battleship Championships" which appears to simply come down to who can field the gheyest setup in a controlled environment. No threat of any other incomings, no chance to have friendlies help you out. If thats considered PVP, I'm afraid someone has entirely missed the context of PVP in Eve, although the creativity of the songs would imply otherwise.

HaulandHaul
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2007.08.25 15:41:00 - [262]
 

Edited by: HaulandHaul on 25/08/2007 16:02:47
so who's gonna make a song about curzon's scam now?

-

Chillin Cold
Tetra Corp
Posted - 2007.08.25 16:57:00 - [263]
 

for those of you that wrote in this topic. I can say, dax has fought many ppl. and has paid everyone of them.. on a side note. Months ago i created a environment like his.. but where ppl can challange other ppl.. not just one person... My corp is third party, and i have paid for a k/b just for stats. Check out my bio ingame. If you are interested in helping, and or being apart of, eve mail me.. i can use the help.

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2007.08.26 00:00:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Adelorae24
Originally by: Mazare Mircea
I don't think your a scammer. I think your a coward who doesn't have the spine to stand by his decisions. You didn't give the isk because you changed your mind, you did it because many people asked you to give it back. You continue to say that you were cheated by faulty game mechanics, you still can't/won't say that you lost.

Shall we see what the input is in 3-4 weeks maybe ?


Looks like you and I are in full agreement at least on the Curzon issue. Spot on man... Maybe you're not so bad after all. Wink


Wait, wait, Racketeers doesn't agree with Curzon?

Welp, that about settles it, Curzon has to be in the right here. Twisted Evil

Quick aside, not to interject in the conversation, but I don't know what happened...

HOWEVER, if there is any truth to Curzon's side of the story, I completely understand why he would, at this point, not pay-up. It would be essentially paying hush money, and I feel about that the same way I feel about people who are lucky enough to catch my pod and ask for a ransom.

I'd say go **** yourself.

-Karlemgne

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2007.08.26 00:05:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: Adelorae24
Originally by: Mazare Mircea
Originally by: 3yeb4ll
I'll correct you.

We smack more than a deranged nanny in a nursery full of ADD kids, and what's more you LOVE IT. But sometimes - only sometimes - we can be arsed to type "gf" in local.


Yeah yeah ... i've also heard of the loch ness monster. :)))



We say "gf" to those who deserve it. Like the handfull of corps who have actually brought a real fight (i.e. MC, Repo, a few others). Now go find another post to whine back some of your lost respect in.


You guys get into fights? I was under the impression you flipped cans all day, pownzor'd Retrievers, and fled to hi-sec (in those rare occasions you do venture into low-sec) as soon as real pirates show up.

-Karl

Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.08.26 01:29:00 - [266]
 

Meh..I hate to agree with you Dax, but you were right Laughing

You are still getting flamed even after you payed. What do you think...another 3 pages before it slows down Wink

Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2007.08.27 09:34:00 - [267]
 

Edited by: Dhejay Centrix on 27/08/2007 09:34:41
Originally by: Karlemgne
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You guys get into fights? I was under the impression you flipped cans all day, pownzor'd Retrievers, and fled to hi-sec (in those rare occasions you do venture into low-sec) as soon as real pirates show up.
-Karl



Ooooh you can feel the love for RAK here can't you Rolling Eyes

I was wondering how long it would be before the majority of posts were "we hate RAK" instead of "pay up Curzon". Now that he's paid I can see everyone is about to bring the hate Twisted Evil

And yes we do get into fights, to be honest it's not that often that we get a "fair" fight but when someone is daft enough to take the bait some proper violence does tend to happen.YARRRR!!

Oooh what's that in the distance? I can see a large lock like thing approaching fast!

Ishtar1
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.08.27 10:11:00 - [268]
 

good to see you got your money and he keeps his rep Smile


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