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USN CVN72
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:24:00 - [121]
 

4 weeks ago when cow and friends killed my carrier CCP finally responded and said sorry for your loss dsync is not ccp's problem and its your issue to deal with. and when they said that i cancelled my accounts for good. I have less then three months left on my subscription and i will throw my remaining capitals into battle in the coming weeks then i am thru with the game... Cheers CCP for blaming lag and Dsync on the players and not standing up to your product...

Cheers

USN

Peoke
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:29:00 - [122]
 

dude STFU up. first ccp is always right. now 2nd me and scooter get your ****. so open the trades in k25 and hand it over. no suicide leaving eve for you.

Sacul
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:40:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Peoke
dude STFU up. first ccp is always right. now 2nd me and scooter get your ****. so open the trades in k25 and hand it over. no suicide leaving eve for you.


I love it when peoke talks kinky!

ding - ding

Minigin
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:45:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: USN CVN72
4 weeks ago when cow and friends killed my carrier CCP finally responded and said sorry for your loss dsync is not ccp's problem and its your issue to deal with. and when they said that i cancelled my accounts for good. I have less then three months left on my subscription and i will throw my remaining capitals into battle in the coming weeks then i am thru with the game... Cheers CCP for blaming lag and Dsync on the players and not standing up to your product...

Cheers

USN


feel free to give me all your stuff before you leave...

Diablique
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:51:00 - [125]
 

Edited by: Diablique on 09/08/2007 03:54:40
I've been playing for over 3 years now. I currently pay for 5 accounts. Three are mine and 2 are for a friend.

I'm this close to closeing shop on EvE.

One more desync, One more DEV swearing there is no problem that the servers can verify. I swear thats all its gonna take.

I mean Honestly.. can't verify a problem.... Oh Yes... 200 people wait 4 hrs to fight then half of them magicaly decide to log off at the same time and attempt to relogin.

Give me a break. Either CCP are idiots or they assume we are.

Sacul
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:51:00 - [126]
 

After reading all the pages i must say it sounded like crap from the server side.....new patch...new hardware...worse performances...so glad im on isk making r&r atm.

too bad fella's could have been epic :(

Minigin
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2007.08.09 03:54:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: Diablique
I've been playing for over 3 years now. I currently pay for 5 accounts. Three I are mine and 2 are for a friend.

I'm this close to closeing shop on EvE.

One more desync, i swear thats all its gonna take.


leave me your stuffz k.tnx.bye.

culdor
Minmatar
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
Posted - 2007.08.09 04:09:00 - [128]
 

Yeah, have to agree that imho servers have gone worse. This was far worst that I have ever seen, well I guess bob jumping in 150+ -> crashing node's can be counter a bit worse, but... Like someone described that he lost all the planets/etc at some part of the fight, I had the same issue. I even managed to fraps it, I think..
Ill check my fraps's soon and try to make a small video out of it. Yeah, it will be boring, but it will show my point of view of the fight...

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.09 04:25:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
stfu, we got heat!

Who's overloading with me? High five!


LaughingLaughingLaughing

Bu Jinkan
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.09 04:26:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Velios

Keep this thread whine and smack free please



It's nice to see a whine free thread for onc..


Originally by: Velios
GJ guys, under terrible circumstances you came out on top.



Oh.

putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.08.09 05:30:00 - [131]
 

EVE is not MMORPG anymore, it's just a chatroom. When it comes to playing game servers will just crash, lag and die. It's not fun to lose assets when you even are not ingame. CCP's first and only priority should be dealing with the lag issue. Dont bring in new shiny ships and gameplay while there is no way to use those things ingame. Im gonna be off from this crap for a week or so.
This game is getting on my nervs and this aint right. It should be entertainment. I have played this game for almost 3 years and last night i found my self smashing keyboard for the first time :D

Goodluck everybody involved.

Gentle Glide
Caldari
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2007.08.09 05:33:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
stfu, we got heat!

Who's overloading with me? High five!


QFT

Captain Irregardless
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.08.09 06:11:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Asuo
Yea lagged out as I warped to the gate at the start of the battle.


If you petition, can I copy it? When I warped to the gate all I saw was damage messages (Full marks to your guys for locking me up ever quickly!)

Jennai
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.08.09 06:25:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Bu Jinkan
Originally by: Velios

Keep this thread whine and smack free please



It's nice to see a whine free thread for onc..


Originally by: Velios
GJ guys, under terrible circumstances you came out on top.



Oh.

he's not whining, he's stating a fact that everyone who was there would agree with.

"terrible circumstances" is a pretty good description of a "battle" where dozens of people get stuck jumping, dozens more desync, and the few who get to actually participate have the same primary for five minutes and one of the commands given on TS is "support, if you can move, try to tackle their battleships".

Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.08.09 06:44:00 - [135]
 

I'm sad sometimes that I'm not fighting up north anymore, but when I read reports like this I don't envy you guys.
This game is getting worse and worse, with CCP proving to be great at making a game, but even better at destroying it. But please, don't start complaining, or they'll write in news articles that they get depressed by customers complaining.
Guess which of below statements is strue:

There is no lag
There is no desynch
Customer service rocks
CCP is open to the customers
CCP are working hard on fixing the problems
20 beers makes me see pink elephants

It's a tough one I know, so I will give you a hint: the answer contains fred0s favorite colour ;)

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2007.08.09 06:58:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 09/08/2007 07:09:53

I'd personally rather like it if EVE reverted into 1984 Elite wireframe mode in large battles....

Or even 2D wireframe like those ancient arcade machines from circa 1979.... a battleship can be a square (with 4 colours representing the different races), cruisers can be a triangle, and frigates a circle.... cap ships can be oblong

In this example, an epic fight it taking place between 4 Tempests, 1 Mega, a Nidhoggr and a Malediction V's 3 geddons, 3 megas, 1 vagabond, 2 crows, and a chimera.


Sinder Ohm
Caldari
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2007.08.09 07:02:00 - [137]
 

Well I lived, even though I should be dead, sorry to the reds I would have prefered a good fight instead of the result from last night :(. I look forward to the next fight.

CCP FFS this lag was on par with the big assault on the bob Capital shipyards.Evil or Very Mad

Fix you bloody game FFS or will you wait for half of eve to quit first???

Signed

****ed off pod pilot

Xeno Metamorph
Gallente
Domination.
Posted - 2007.08.09 07:32:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Xeno Metamorph on 09/08/2007 07:34:00
It was a damn sad affair to be honest.
I managed to jump in with the fleet and get into S-K but it was impossible to load the grid, just an eternal desync. Module and general control lag was 5-10 minutes and 15minutes after entering system I got disconnected.

On reconnect I came back with 20% armor left even though while logged in I was showing taking no damage (not that I could warp anyway)...

However, on my scouting alt I opened up a 'stuck' petition whilst unable to login, it was answered within 5minutes and approximately 10minutes later my main was able to login to the battlefield. Now I don't know if this was because CCP did something, if they did, great thanks, but unfortunately I think it was too late, the enemy had already scattered across the system and what could have been a good fleet fight, had just been a complete lagfest.

Kinda sad when my Snipermega didn't get a single kill, yet I managed to get a raven probed and killed on my alt in a helios, my only kill of the night in fact...
For those of you that did manage to load grid and fight, it did appear to be a good fight - as heard on ts at least.

Ashraaf
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.08.09 07:33:00 - [139]
 

It's the solution CCP apply for a massive ISK sink :(


Neena Valdi
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.08.09 07:36:00 - [140]
 

The only loser in S-K battle was CCP.

MrJordanIOI
Minmatar
The Lantern Mining Corporation
Posted - 2007.08.09 07:59:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: MrJordanIOI on 09/08/2007 08:10:25
1) you got heat and bombers
2) there is no lag, just new hardware
3) last time they checked, subscriptions were on the rise
4) brace for the swarm of fanboys telling you not to bash CCP about this
5) or not to blob
6) fleet battles work as designed
7) petitions doubly so
8) according to 7.1 in the EULA: You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.

IOI

Mr Vrix
Caldari
Vrix Nation
Posted - 2007.08.09 08:25:00 - [142]
 

Hi, Thank you for contacting customer support, I apologize the late reply. I checked our logs but regret to inform you that we are unable to verify your loss in our logs as being abnormal in any way, because of this we are unfortunately unable to reimburse your ship. I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you and wish you a speedy recovery. Best Regards, ****** The EVE Online Customer Support Team


what a freaking joke, nothingh abnormal ? lmao

ship diddnt respond and i got the msg ship out of control when i stil was in ship on my screen

does ccp even have logs or what ? and if they have logs what do they log ? the amount of dollar a hour they are earning ?

Gabriel Karade
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2007.08.09 08:29:00 - [143]
 

'Nine point plan' to improving 'Fleet' combat:

1. Strip turrets, fit Miner II's, scrap all combat drones/fighters - replace with Mining Drone II's
2. Form fleets up
3. Fleets warp into top asteroid belt of the contested system.
4. ZOMG!!!111....MINING RACE!!!!
5. *insert gratuitous smack about the size of ones mining laser output*
6. Bonus node crash if belt gets stripped inside of 30 minutes.
7. Supporting Hauler fleets race against each other from jet-can to jet-can.
8. Highest ore total wins...
9. Booby prize to first the person killed by an NPC...

...you never know, no-one ever complained about de-syncing while mining did they eh? eh? *nudge* *nudge* Wink


Sinder Ohm
Caldari
Demonic Corp
G00DFELLAS
Posted - 2007.08.09 08:40:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Gabriel Karade
'Nine point plan' to improving 'Fleet' combat:

1. Strip turrets, fit Miner II's, scrap all combat drones/fighters - replace with Mining Drone II's
2. Form fleets up
3. Fleets warp into top asteroid belt of the contested system.
4. ZOMG!!!111....MINING RACE!!!!
5. *insert gratuitous smack about the size of ones mining laser output*
6. Bonus node crash if belt gets stripped inside of 30 minutes.
7. Supporting Hauler fleets race against each other from jet-can to jet-can.
8. Highest ore total wins...
9. Booby prize to first the person killed by an NPC...

...you never know, no-one ever complained about de-syncing while mining did they eh? eh? *nudge* *nudge* Wink




Im sure ccp will find a patch to dsync us while mining Sad

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:10:00 - [145]
 

You guys have incredibly short and selective memories.

I can recall when 50 V 50 was a 'big deal' and caused massive, unplayable lag - the kind you now experience with 200 v 200. That lag doesnt happen so much anymore in fights of that size... In fact the servers have improved dramatically over the years in terms of their ability to host larger fights, but clearly there is a limit on the technical capabilities.

The trouble here is that the players ability to form ever-larger blobs is outpacing CCP's ability to upgrade the hardware. Things ARE better - if you go back to 50 v 50, and compare the performance from 2 years ago to now, its massively improved. Still not perfect but it has come a long way.

Its easy to lose sight of that, but honestly why anyone would expect 200 v 200 to be playable is beyond me. We all know it wont be. You know your screen probably won't load, you know you wont be able to activate your modules etc... just like it used to be in fights of 30 v 30 a few years ago.

Asuo
Caldari
Maelstrom Crew
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:11:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
'Nine point plan' to improving 'Fleet' combat:

1. Strip turrets, fit Miner II's, scrap all combat drones/fighters - replace with Mining Drone II's
2. Form fleets up
3. Fleets warp into top asteroid belt of the contested system.
4. ZOMG!!!111....MINING RACE!!!!
5. *insert gratuitous smack about the size of ones mining laser output*
6. Bonus node crash if belt gets stripped inside of 30 minutes.
7. Supporting Hauler fleets race against each other from jet-can to jet-can.
8. Highest ore total wins...
9. Booby prize to first the person killed by an NPC...

...you never know, no-one ever complained about de-syncing while mining did they eh? eh? *nudge* *nudge* Wink




Im sure ccp will find a patch to dsync us while mining Sad


Already had it bud, moved mins to the can in a system with just me in it then waited and watched the strip miners turn off saying I was full oddly the mins appeared to be in can, relog and oh look their in my ship doh.

Kirah Ovai
Minmatar
Altcenaries
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:23:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 09/08/2007 07:09:53

I'd personally rather like it if EVE reverted into 1984 Elite wireframe mode in large battles....

Or even 2D wireframe like those ancient arcade machines from circa 1979.... a battleship can be a square (with 4 colours representing the different races), cruisers can be a triangle, and frigates a circle.... cap ships can be oblong

In this example, an epic fight it taking place between 4 Tempests, 1 Mega, a Nidhoggr and a Malediction V's 3 geddons, 3 megas, 1 vagabond, 2 crows, and a chimera.




I really want to see my yellow square shooting it's mighty lazors, so can I have a green line (yes, I'm using conflagration!) from my yellow square to one of the tempests? Thank you.

yieasase
Gallente
Liga Freier Terraner
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:29:00 - [148]
 

anybody wants a fraps of this fight? ugh

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:38:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Kirah Ovai
Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 09/08/2007 07:09:53

I'd personally rather like it if EVE reverted into 1984 Elite wireframe mode in large battles....

Or even 2D wireframe like those ancient arcade machines from circa 1979.... a battleship can be a square (with 4 colours representing the different races), cruisers can be a triangle, and frigates a circle.... cap ships can be oblong

In this example, an epic fight it taking place between 4 Tempests, 1 Mega, a Nidhoggr and a Malediction V's 3 geddons, 3 megas, 1 vagabond, 2 crows, and a chimera.




I really want to see my yellow square shooting it's mighty lazors, so can I have a green line (yes, I'm using conflagration!) from my yellow square to one of the tempests? Thank you.


Well I think you will find that among the alliances out in 0.0 we would much rather be able to solve these conflicts properly and declare a winner than being stuck with the luck of the draw.

Anyone who lives in empire and autopilots around doing lvl IV's can play on pretty mode for all they care. I just want a game where we can truely test our wits against the opposing team. If that means old elite style graphics I have zero problem with that.

Neena Valdi
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.08.09 09:46:00 - [150]
 

unfortunelly, graphics have nothing to do with server side lag. :(

The only possible solution is to implement the "instance" system - some kind of deadspace where can only limited amount of players from each side enter (50 vs 50 for example, but if one side have 30 then no more than 30 from another side can enter the same instance).

But it wont work in EVE as its impossible to "separate" sides programmaticaly.


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