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David Bonesaw
Gallente
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2007.08.03 10:50:00 - [121]
 

Laughing

Chantary
Gallente
Jagdkommando
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.08.03 10:52:00 - [122]
 

sorry to hear that, but i can understand your decision!
GL and try to have fun with eve as you'd like it!

Darknesss
Gallente
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2007.08.03 10:53:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Darknesss on 03/08/2007 10:52:56
Just to clarify, we havent worked with YouWhat on a single op. We havent worked together to hit SPARTA, we havent dropped any towers in their space.

Furthermore our NAP with MM and RAZOR was a one time thing to kill a capital yard, a yard we couldnt have killed alone due to the overwhelming forces on the gate, instead of turning around not hitting the capital yard and not going for a fight we joined forced and went in with roughly the same numbers wise. Not so long ago we killed quite a few MM carriers, we have battles with them every time we see them.

We worked with another power ONCE and suddenly its being stated that we were working with YouWhat to take SPARTA space and that were napped with MM and RZR. seriously does 24 hours of blue mean that much?



edit: gl sparta

Ponderous Thunderstroke
Minmatar
Republic War Machine Industries
Posted - 2007.08.03 10:56:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Mr McKin
Roaming other regions is not "fighting for month". Seriously, stop being such a tard.



Post with your main.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2007.08.03 10:57:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Harleigh

With the recent chain of events punctuated with the announcement that YW has decided to attack Sparta in conjunction with Triumvirate, it is our decision that we no longer wish to try and defend our systems in the face of the the blob that we know is coming with no way to prevent effectively given the current state of game mechanics. We have been in a state of war since we left fade some 6-8 months ago and quite honestly are just simply tired.



Ha, that is brilliant, just a week ago you were saying how Iron were comple cowards for losing thier space "in record time". And now suddenly your jumping ship, and against alot lesser of a force than we were up against.


I think the difference is that Sparta fought first against MC loosing there quite some ships, then later, fighting against Tri and Razor and Iron and now YW and they lost many ships, recently more capitals and a supercapital under construction. They fought for months always against overwhelming enemies and lost many ships.

IRON on the other hand didn't fight MC for months, they didn't loose their cap fleet or supercapitals, they just pulled out. It can be argued if that was clever or not, but this is not the point here. The point is that they have no right at all to blame Sparta for anything.

Actually once IRON was quite nice but when I see all the flaming and really stupid crap of some of their members, not now but all the time also in other posts, it is really a shame. What a downfall.

Vaan2
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:00:00 - [126]
 

Why is Mr McKin even allowed to post in this forum? I thought posting from noob corps (i.e State War Academy) in COAD isnt allowed. Oh wait it isnt...

"Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited....

The term alt for the purpose of these rules also includes anybody in an NPC corp.

All alt posts and threads will be deleted without notice and you may receive warnings and bans as per usual."

Murina
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:04:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Murina on 03/08/2007 11:05:11
So its so long and thanks for all the fish?.

Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:06:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Harleigh

With the recent chain of events punctuated with the announcement that YW has decided to attack Sparta in conjunction with Triumvirate, it is our decision that we no longer wish to try and defend our systems in the face of the the blob that we know is coming with no way to prevent effectively given the current state of game mechanics. We have been in a state of war since we left fade some 6-8 months ago and quite honestly are just simply tired.



Ha, that is brilliant, just a week ago you were saying how Iron were comple cowards for losing thier space "in record time". And now suddenly your jumping ship, and against alot lesser of a force than we were up against.


I think the difference is that Sparta fought first against MC loosing there quite some ships, then later, fighting against Tri and Razor and Iron and now YW and they lost many ships, recently more capitals and a supercapital under construction. They fought for months always against overwhelming enemies and lost many ships.

IRON on the other hand didn't fight MC for months, they didn't loose their cap fleet or supercapitals, they just pulled out. It can be argued if that was clever or not, but this is not the point here. The point is that they have no right at all to blame Sparta for anything.

Actually once IRON was quite nice but when I see all the flaming and really stupid crap of some of their members, not now but all the time also in other posts, it is really a shame. What a downfall.


Actually, iron spent months in fix space fighting them almost constantly with razor/MM. We lost cap ships and we also killed a fair view. When we eventually came back north, we fought for a while against overwhelming odds, and once those odds finally made thier way into dek the decision was made to pull out. We fought just as much as sparta, probly even more.

Sorry we didnt lose droves of capships to proove it.

Zylatis
Caldari
Baptism oF Fire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:12:00 - [129]
 

Blah blah blah blah...

You know i considered actually reading and respecting the opinions of some of the stuff in here, but as soon as i see a reference to the film i know that im wasting my time because, as usual, they missed the point by about 3 AU.

Personally, i dont really care about what IRON did. Yeh it seemed kinda lackluster but meh, i suppose with a certain amount of elastic imagination you could call it a tactical retreat, void of fighting of course. Ours on the other hand, was not void of said fighting. Instead of going "well shucks guys were out of capitals, lets go kill some boring drones and look at lots of zydrine in our hangar" we tried, and yes failed, to build a MS. Its not much, but its something. We also had fun along the way, something which, judging by the poo being flung in this post, is seriously lacking in most peoples EVE experiences.

I came, i saw, i shot stuff. The end. Good fight all, props to Harleigh/Nac/etc (hes a friggin rubix cube of characters man) for holding it all together for so long. Ye shall be remembered one of the few alliance orientated EVE people i've met who succesfully mixed fun with serious EVE business.

So long and thanks for all the fish.
-Z

DirtyHarry
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:15:00 - [130]
 

Alliances folding left and right for Tri, obviously Erwin gave them the megalomaniac look.

Astarte Nosferatu
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:15:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/08/2007 11:16:42
Originally by: Gnulpie

IRON on the other hand didn't fight MC for months, they didn't loose their cap fleet or supercapitals, they just pulled out. It can be argued if that was clever or not, but this is not the point here. The point is that they have no right at all to blame Sparta for anything.



So I didn't spend five months in Querious fighting fleets of FIX, BoB and MC? I didn't orginase the gang that killed those two MC Carriers and almost got Seleene's Nyx? Not to mention rallying 150+ pilots in half an hour without any op being planned? You are saying we didn't lose our Capital Ship fleet in Querious?

Good to know all those things didn't actually happen, thousands of killmails on IRON, Schism, RZR, MM, BoB, FIX, MC, ISS, Exuro Mortis, KIA, VETO, IAC, Goonswarm, etc... killboards were all made up and IRON was carebearing up North during The Great War.
Or perhaps you mixed up IRON with Sparta...

Jin Steele
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:20:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Zylatis
Blah blah blah blah...

You know i considered actually reading and respecting the opinions of some of the stuff in here, but as soon as i see a reference to the film i know that im wasting my time because, as usual, they missed the point by about 3 AU.

Personally, i dont really care about what IRON did. Yeh it seemed kinda lackluster but meh, i suppose with a certain amount of elastic imagination you could call it a tactical retreat, void of fighting of course. Ours on the other hand, was not void of said fighting. Instead of going "well shucks guys were out of capitals, lets go kill some boring drones and look at lots of zydrine in our hangar" we tried, and yes failed, to build a MS. Its not much, but its something. We also had fun along the way, something which, judging by the poo being flung in this post, is seriously lacking in most peoples EVE experiences.

I came, i saw, i shot stuff. The end. Good fight all, props to Harleigh/Nac/etc (hes a friggin rubix cube of characters man) for holding it all together for so long. Ye shall be remembered one of the few alliance orientated EVE people i've met who succesfully mixed fun with serious EVE business.

So long and thanks for all the fish.
-Z


A retreat may require fighting, but what do you think a TACTICAL retreat is? We had pulled EVERYTHING from the stations 5 months before, so even if we had wanted to fight we would have had to get that up here somehow. While leadership was setting up the new space we were still in dek leaing gangs and that sort, mostly fighting to help FLA try and retake their space.

Do you not think we would have tried to build a MS, had we had the ISK or said minerals? The fact that you had any isk left at all after the war just proves our point. While everyone else fully committed, you managed to continue making isk, enough to build a mothership. However, by moving our home away from the front lines, we have ensured our safety for the near future, and given ourselves a way to make motherships and such.

Dont you see the difference? We are still alive, STILL running gangs into the north daily, and making isk and all that. You just disbanded, because your enemies have more friends than you. They would not have brought the blob, as they stated, until you decided thats what you needed to fight.

I'm glad you had fun, and I'm sure that New Eden will be glad to rid itself of your alliance at last. To any of the Sparta pilots we still hold in respect, IRON would love to have you. To the others, its a lot harder to turncoat when you have nothing to offer.

Jin Steele
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:21:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Good to know all those things didn't actually happen, thousands of killmails on IRON, Schism, RZR, MM, BoB, FIX, MC, ISS, Exuro Mortis, KIA, VETO, IAC, Goonswarm, etc... killboards were all made up and IRON was carebearing up North during The Great War.
Or perhaps you mixed up IRON with Sparta...


Lol, thats also true. My old 200 man alliance with about 20 pvpers got more kills than Sparta during the war.

Oli4Oli4
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:23:00 - [134]
 

No epic battles Crying or Very sad

gl i guessSad

Cringeley
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:23:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Cringeley on 03/08/2007 11:23:36
As an outsider to the north I have no idea who contributed what, but after reading a bunch of posts talking about various contributions and events that took place I just wanted to say that when Molle made his "chow we're stealing your targets" post, and then the northern boot suddenly swung straight into BoB's crotch, it was like the greatest strategic moment ever in my Eve experience and I'm tremendously sad that MC and the YouWhat betrayal reversed that offensive.

What I'm trying to say is that a hell of a lot of you guys rock.

Cassandra Bloom
Gallente
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:25:00 - [136]
 

Didn't see this comming, oh well i suppose good luck to sparta's pilots and corps and good luck on joining an alliance who know what they're actually doing.
On the other hand you can shoot your intel guy in the head spartans, i didn't know anything about a YW op to remove you and reading Darknesss's post you disbanded for nothing.

Jin Steele
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:26:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Cringeley
Edited by: Cringeley on 03/08/2007 11:23:36
As an outsider to the north I have no idea who contributed what, but after reading a bunch of posts talking about various contributions and events that took place I just wanted to say that when Molle made his "chow we're stealing your targets" post, and then the northern boot suddenly swung straight into BoB's crotch, it was like the greatest strategic moment ever in my Eve experience and I'm tremendously sad that MC and the YouWhat betrayal reversed that offensive.

What I'm trying to say is that a hell of a lot of you guys rock.



Thats the best ****ing quote ive seen on here. Saving that for later use.

Alazaar
Gallente
Schwarze Pumpe
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:31:00 - [138]
 

you made my day!
You switched sides more often then your pants, complaining about YW setting you red and now disbanding without firing a shot...

Go away and die

Shin Ra
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:37:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Darknesss
Edited by: Darknesss on 03/08/2007 10:52:56
Just to clarify, we havent worked with YouWhat on a single op. We havent worked together to hit SPARTA, we havent dropped any towers in their space.

Furthermore our NAP with MM and RAZOR was a one time thing to kill a capital yard, a yard we couldnt have killed alone due to the overwhelming forces on the gate, instead of turning around not hitting the capital yard and not going for a fight we joined forced and went in with roughly the same numbers wise. Not so long ago we killed quite a few MM carriers, we have battles with them every time we see them.

We worked with another power ONCE and suddenly its being stated that we were working with YouWhat to take SPARTA space and that were napped with MM and RZR. seriously does 24 hours of blue mean that much?



edit: gl sparta



Sprata, if you bother to read this you will see that you are disbanding when doing so is unecessary. Either way, will there be a firesale?

Maeltstome
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:38:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Harleigh

While I could spend the next 4 hours typing up a huge detailed and eloquent novel talking about history, current events and server issues, I will spare everyone the details and get to the point.


Will you guys get over that - you lost 1 fight due to server problems - which you would have lost anyway due to the sheer odds you faced, now you're all going to quit eve over it?

Real mature.

THRASHER23
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:38:00 - [141]
 

Well regardless of what you may think RZR and MM were doing during the war in relation to the survival of Sparta is kinda irrelevant. Simply put you need a new name because you are terrible at holding true to what "Spartans" are and you seriously need to disband.

No surrender-fail
No retreat-fail
Only the hard-fail
Only the strong-fail

Try Pokemon next time.

oh btw just for good measure if any spartan thinks rzr, mm weren't fighting tooth and nail to hold our space and support friends is outta their ****'N MIND!

DarkFollower
Amarr
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:41:00 - [142]
 

WTF Shocked
but but but we didn't do anything lol
apart from that uej thing we really didn't went after territory and stuff like that(and wouldn't go for it for sometime)
I would shoot the intel guy if i were you, could have been some nice fights in the future , and some nice engagements but meh
And what's the stuff about youwhat ?Neutral i don't think we any op or even roaming gang with youwhat guys if i'm not mistaken

well nonetheless gl with whatever you guys do , but ashame really

ps : <3 jin Razz

Jin Steele
Caldari
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:45:00 - [143]
 

Edited by: Jin Steele on 03/08/2007 11:44:52
Originally by: DarkFollower
WTF Shocked
but but but we didn't do anything lol
apart from that uej thing we really didn't went after territory and stuff like that(and wouldn't go for it for sometime)
I would shoot the intel guy if i were you, could have been some nice fights in the future , and some nice engagements but meh
And what's the stuff about youwhat ?Neutral i don't think we any op or even roaming gang with youwhat guys if i'm not mistaken

well nonetheless gl with whatever you guys do , but ashame really

ps : <3 jin Razz


DAAAAAARRRRKK!

Scared Mofo
Minmatar
Diamonds inc.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:45:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Cassandra Bloom
Didn't see this comming, oh well i suppose good luck to sparta's pilots and corps and good luck on joining an alliance who know what they're actually doing.
On the other hand you can shoot your intel guy in the head spartans, i didn't know anything about a YW op to remove you and reading Darknesss's post you disbanded for nothing.


Tbqh nothing Sparta did made any sense to me so far, i'm not too surprised about them to disband on a bad intel basis. I can understand the fear for a tri/yw jointop, but i guess you just fear too much from anything to be able to make any sense as an alliance.

Dave White
Caldari
Interlude.
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:46:00 - [145]
 

As well as giggling when I read this post, I'm also quite suprised. But yeah, good luck o/

Neesa Corrinne
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:50:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Attak
This is madness.


This thread has been won.

Hugo Splat
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:51:00 - [147]
 

With all the flip flopping Sparta have done...


They'll be back again next week, stating they only ever made a tactical withdrawl from COAD.

Laughing

Spectre 6567
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:56:00 - [148]
 

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Halkin
Caldari
Locus Evolved
Posted - 2007.08.03 11:57:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Spectre 6567
Sparta Who??


RMS have opinions too Crying or Very sad

gl sparta

XxAngelxX
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.08.03 12:01:00 - [150]
 

4 Down 0 to go Crying or Very sad

Anyway, IRON + Sparta stop whining at each other, you both fought admirably down south for the time you were there. I think you're forgetting who's big idea it was to go down south and who didn't deliver once we were down there - they were the first alliance to give up and disband.

Gl to all the corps.

To the drone regions?


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