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Sedecimdiad
Posted - 2008.12.15 14:35:00 - [211]
 

I hope that this issue get resolved some day soon...

still think that the ivention chance calculation should be released so we can actually see what effects it most.


Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2008.12.15 15:08:00 - [212]
 

Edited by: Lord Fitz on 15/12/2008 15:08:46
Originally by: Sedecimdiad
still think that the ivention chance calculation should be released so we can actually see what effects it most


http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/invention_chance.php < This. People who have done thousands of runs, including the original creator of the formula have it checking out. It isn't going to be off by any amount that matters, and is quite probably 100% spot on.

Blih Nox
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.01.09 14:30:00 - [213]
 

1. the fix, when is it coming?
2. is it considered an exploit to sell the implants?

Arimathea Anthalas
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.01.10 02:15:00 - [214]
 

Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 10/01/2009 02:15:15
This issue has been open for 528 days.

That's 1 year, 5 months, and 9 days.

That's 45,619,200 seconds
760,320 minutes
12,672 hours
75 weeks (rounded down).

I'm going to post on this thread every day until the issue is fixed.

This is inexcusable, CCP.



MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
Phoenix Transglobal Conglomerate
Posted - 2009.01.10 05:46:00 - [215]
 

I don't have this implant so it doesn't affect me one way or the other, but I have to agree that letting it go on and on like this is just insane.

You should make sure NPC no longer sell/drop this item so they aren't available in game (if it hasn't been done already).

I don't have a good idea on how to deal with the ones that are already in circulation though, but some way of buying them back should be set up. Letting this go on and on with promise of fixes in some far future date is just silly though.

Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.10 10:36:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 10/01/2009 02:15:15
This issue has been open for 528 days.

That's 1 year, 5 months, and 9 days.[/b][/center]




No, look at the first post in this thread. It's been open since MAY 2007. That is almost 1 year 8 months.

When these were mistakenly introduced, CCP needed to offer reimbursement for isk and LP (at the NPC value). Since then the value of LP has declined dramatically, so even that would be a kick in the kneecaps, but still better than nothing. Many many months ago these were prevented from being sold on the market / contracts (This to me is an admission that the entire issue has been indefinitely shelved by CCP) and only the last patch were they removed from our clones heads, having been stuck there taking up valuable space for nothing (but risking being lost) for almost 2 years.

This is just silly. Either they can be made to do something worthwhile in a timely manner, or they need to be reimbursed, at LEAST an admission that they have given up, we have had major expansion after major expansion since these were released, and we can't even get something as simple as a reimbursement.

OSGOD
Posted - 2009.01.11 11:33:00 - [217]
 

hehe actually in my country as a paying customer CCP could be charged 4 theft even robery as a paying cuctomer the items you buy 4 isk and deleted or changed bye CCP means your hard earned cash (RL money paid 4 game) has been taken under false pretenses ,it is long over due 4 countries legislature to be brought into the 21 cent to protect gamers from thes criminal acts perfermed buy game companies in the name of game flo or lag busting

Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.11 14:41:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: OSGOD
hehe actually in my country as a paying customer CCP could be charged 4 theft even robery as a paying cuctomer the items you buy 4 isk and deleted or changed bye CCP means your hard earned cash (RL money paid 4 game) has been taken under false pretenses ,it is long over due 4 countries legislature to be brought into the 21 cent to protect gamers from thes criminal acts perfermed buy game companies in the name of game flo or lag busting


Good luck with that. The EULA says that they always own it all, and the only legal challenges to it have failed, even when someone actually did pay real money for in game items. (which is much less of a grey area than what you propose).

Arimathea Anthalas
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.01.11 23:27:00 - [219]
 

530 days
1 year, 5 months, 11 days
45,792,000 seconds
763,200 minutes
12,720 hours
75 weeks (rounded down)

Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.12 22:56:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
530 days
1 year, 5 months, 11 days
45,792,000 seconds
763,200 minutes
12,720 hours
75 weeks (rounded down)



MAY 2007
1) June 2007
2) July 2007
3) August 2007
4) September 2007
5) October 2007
6) November 2007
7) December 2007

7 months right?

All of 2008, that's more than 1 year 7 months !

Arimathea Anthalas
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.01.13 14:59:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
530 days
1 year, 5 months, 11 days
45,792,000 seconds
763,200 minutes
12,720 hours
75 weeks (rounded down)



MAY 2007
1) June 2007
2) July 2007
3) August 2007
4) September 2007
5) October 2007
6) November 2007
7) December 2007

7 months right?

All of 2008, that's more than 1 year 7 months !


No sir.

The post was originally made in 2007.
The edit was made in 2008.
So my math and my date are right: Pay attention or go pound sand.

From and including: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
To, but not including : Tuesday, January 13, 2009

532 days

1 year, 5 months, 13 days

532 days can be converted to one of these units:
45,964,800 seconds
766,080 minutes
12,768 hours
76 weeks


Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.13 15:35:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
The post was originally made in 2007.
The edit was made in 2008.
So my math and my date are right: Pay attention or go pound sand



Regardless of when the post was made, the issue was released with Revelations II, not when the post was made. The poster had put in a petition to the GM and waited for over a month. You can see this by the following posters responses, made the same day. His edits of the first post have only been to change the thread title, the rest of the content is as it appeared 2007.07.31. Where upon the issue had been open, for over 4 weeks.

Your math is fine, your assumption on the start date is incorrect.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1490&tid=1
eve online: revelations ii deployment completed!
reported by CCP kieron | 2007.06.19 11:12:43

575 Days.



Arimathea Anthalas
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.01.13 16:59:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Lord Fitz
Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
The post was originally made in 2007.
The edit was made in 2008.
So my math and my date are right: Pay attention or go pound sand



Regardless of when the post was made, the issue was released with Revelations II, not when the post was made. The poster had put in a petition to the GM and waited for over a month. You can see this by the following posters responses, made the same day. His edits of the first post have only been to change the thread title, the rest of the content is as it appeared 2007.07.31. Where upon the issue had been open, for over 4 weeks.

Your math is fine, your assumption on the start date is incorrect.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1490&tid=1
eve online: revelations ii deployment completed!
reported by CCP kieron | 2007.06.19 11:12:43

575 Days.





Let's debate semantics some more because you can't admit you're wrong about the May 2008 thing. Irrelevant. The point is whether it's 528 or 575 days it doesn't take that long to get a fix. Now we return you to your regularly scheduled sandcastle.

Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.14 13:59:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
Let's debate semantics some more because you can't admit you're wrong about the May 2008 thing. Irrelevant. The point is whether it's 528 or 575 days it doesn't take that long to get a fix. Now we return you to your regularly scheduled sandcastle.


Wait what. So I was tired (had just woken up) when I saw 7 and my brain said June. woo hoo. I love how you jam in there 'can't admit you were wrong' when I contradicted myself with the hard evidence, (thus proving myself wrong, which is as good or better than admitting it). But it also proved you wrong. If there was no point in the exact number of days to the second, I have no idea why you posted it three times, when you're wrong it's semantics and irrelevant. When I'm wrong I'm not paying attention? I knew you were wrong when I posted, that's why I posted, so I wasn't right either, but it got to the truth eventually.

Getting a fix quite clearly does take this long. Getting a fix or at least resolution shouldn't, but it has.

Arimathea Anthalas
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.01.14 15:09:00 - [225]
 

This thread has been open for 533 days

Or 1 year, 5 months, 14 days excluding the end date

533 days can be converted to one of these units:
46,051,200 seconds
767,520 minutes
12,792 hours
76 weeks (rounded down)

Halada
Caldari
Lone Star Joint Venture
Posted - 2009.01.14 19:15:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas
This thread has been open for 533 days

Or 1 year, 5 months, 14 days excluding the end date

533 days can be converted to one of these units:
46,051,200 seconds
767,520 minutes
12,792 hours
76 weeks (rounded down)


Do us all a favor and YOU go pound some sand.

Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the EVE Industry forum.

ShadowandLight
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.01.15 05:24:00 - [227]
 

haha i was gonna guy buy these for my alt too


CutsLawn
Posted - 2009.01.22 04:17:00 - [228]
 

This is just plain pathetic, ccp wtf? Sad

Raymon James
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.01.22 04:30:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: CutsLawn
This is just plain pathetic, ccp wtf? Sad
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
In Quantum Rise, the clones with the implant plugged in will have it unplugged and returned to their home station so you can at least plug something else in in the interim.

A fix for the implants is still scheduled however we will look into the possibility of reimbursement for those who do not want to wait any longer for a fix.

Sorry for the extremely long wait on this Crying or Very sad

take that for what its worth.

Joss Sparq
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.01.22 10:06:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: Raymon James
Originally by: CutsLawn
This is just plain pathetic, ccp wtf? Sad
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
In Quantum Rise, the clones with the implant plugged in will have it unplugged and returned to their home station so you can at least plug something else in in the interim.

A fix for the implants is still scheduled however we will look into the possibility of reimbursement for those who do not want to wait any longer for a fix.

Sorry for the extremely long wait on this Crying or Very sad

take that for what its worth.
People did. They will also probably argue that it really wasn't worth much.

Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
Posted - 2009.01.22 12:40:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Raymon James
Originally by: CutsLawn
This is just plain pathetic, ccp wtf? Sad
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
In Quantum Rise, the clones with the implant plugged in will have it unplugged and returned to their home station so you can at least plug something else in in the interim.

A fix for the implants is still scheduled however we will look into the possibility of reimbursement for those who do not want to wait any longer for a fix.

Sorry for the extremely long wait on this Crying or Very sad

take that for what its worth.


About 250 million isk less than it was 18 months ago.

Chao Phyra
Posted - 2009.02.02 12:43:00 - [232]
 

Bump

Any chance of any agile:scrum'ish info on
1) where this sits in the priority list?
2) Is this going to make the 'cut'?
3) what the 'fix' is going to be [if any]?


Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.02.02 16:47:00 - [233]
 

Its a shame they cannot be picked up via sale or contract anymore.

I'd gladly start buying them up from people at reduced amounts so they can at least recover something.

Blih Nox
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.04 15:31:00 - [234]
 

this issue is starting to get annoying

Blih Nox
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.10 13:43:00 - [235]
 

Hey CCP, new idea:
why dont you fix this in the new Apocrypha expansion!!!!!1111111oneoneten
Very HappySmileSadSurprisedShockedConfusedCoolLaughingMadRazzEmbarassedCrying or Very sadEvil or Very MadTwisted EvilRolling EyesWinkExclamationQuestionIdeaArrowNeutralYARRRR!!ughugh

The Slagh
Posted - 2009.02.10 15:00:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Its a shame they cannot be picked up via sale or contract anymore.

I'd gladly start buying them up from people at reduced amounts so they can at least recover something.


Heh, I was thinking of doing the exact same thing Wink

Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
Posted - 2009.02.10 15:06:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Blih Nox
Hey CCP, new idea:
why dont you fix this in the new Apocrypha expansion!!!!!1111111oneoneten
Very HappySmileSadSurprisedShockedConfusedCoolLaughingMadRazzEmbarassedCrying or Very sadEvil or Very MadTwisted EvilRolling EyesWinkExclamationQuestionIdeaArrowNeutralYARRRR!!ughugh


It has been fixed. Implant has been removed form game and your char head. If they did anyhting more people could start claiming scam om skill training whenever they change a skills function. (Kinda like scanning will be affected with Apocrypha.) So here is an idea: Let it go!

Blih Nox
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.10 16:19:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Qual
Implant has been removed form game ....

no sir i've got one in my hangar
implants have been removed from the head of the victims while they fix them (in the next static patch)
ccp would never let us down like you claim

Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
Posted - 2009.02.10 17:43:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: Blih Nox
Originally by: Qual
Implant has been removed form game ....

no sir i've got one in my hangar
implants have been removed from the head of the victims while they fix them (in the next static patch)
ccp would never let us down like you claim


And I have one in my hangar. Not the point. The implant have effectively been removed, just like numerous skills and items haven been over the years. Deal with it and stop the whining.

Blih Nox
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.11 01:18:00 - [240]
 

counterpoint ---->
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
In Quantum Rise, the clones with the implant plugged in will have it unplugged and returned to their home station so you can at least plug something else in in the interim.

A fix for the implants is still scheduled however we will look into the possibility of reimbursement for those who do not want to wait any longer for a fix.

Sorry for the extremely long wait on this Crying or Very sad

i rest my case


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