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LvxOccvlta
Posted - 2007.09.01 22:46:00 - [1741]
 

Originally by: Original Copy
Actually I prefer my Curse/Pilgrim now that I have to rely more heavily on neuts than I do NOS.

I flew them with all NOS primarily before, loved 'em. They were not instant 'I Win' boats either, they were just good. I could **** frigs, destroyers, T1 cruisers in a cycle. BCs and HACs in a few as long as I could outrun or out-tank their damage output.

Now I can rip a BC and HAC dry in a cycle, at most two, and only loose less than 100 cap... and I can do this at range, even with a pilgrim.

That farming raven in 0.0 using smarties? Pick targets adequite to your ship... and obviously those are not it unless you've got allies nearby.


...all of which had been possible even before the nos nerf.

But now you can't run all your modules can you.

Vandagar
Posted - 2007.09.02 09:14:00 - [1742]
 

NOS is useless now, ship that depended on NOS to keep their cap running are now down. A mission fitted raven can now bust me down and hand me my a** on a silver plate...

Going to cancel my account now. Bye folks...

Hastur DragonTooth
Amarr
Optimus Crime.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.09.02 16:24:00 - [1743]
 

Originally by: Vandagar
As always, the above changes are not final and subject to change if they turn out to be overpowered or under-performing. Of course we would like to hear your feedback on the Nosferatu and Khanid changes (from Caldari pilots too). More balancing changes for Revelations 2.2 to follow.


Here's some feedback. The nos changes blow chunks. Not only does it make the curse worthless but it is also a nurf to Amar in general, as a number of their ships tend to rely on a nos to keep their modules running and their weapons firing on their cap hungry vessels, instead of eating cap charges like candy in their mids.

Like most MMO's Eve will eventually be ruined not by devs, but by development managers. They have a budget and in order to sustain it they convince their superiors that "more changes are needed, really they are!" when in reality Eve should be put in maintenance mode and a small dev staff simply work to fix bugs.

They will claim their changes are needed to fix gameplay balance. Problem is, they tend to balance things like they did here. By dropping a damn BOWLING BALL on one side of the see-saw. A couple years down the road and your race will be nurfed next. All your *****ing will be to no avail. Eve will look nothing like the game you remember. All in the name of keeping some dolt's budget inflated.

Want to fix Eve? Fire all the devs before it's too late.

Ozric Tentacle
Posted - 2007.09.03 09:44:00 - [1744]
 

so I spend about 3 months training up for the Curse. What a complete waste of time. Another kick in the teeth for Amarr by the dev numpties. Seriously considering cancelling the account now.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.09.03 15:22:00 - [1745]
 

Originally by: Vandagar
NOS is useless now, ship that depended on NOS to keep their cap running are now down. A mission fitted raven can now bust me down and hand me my a** on a silver plate...

Going to cancel my account now. Bye folks...


Actually, if you rely on nos to keep your cap running you will notice very little difference.

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2007.09.06 12:58:00 - [1746]
 

Edited by: Sylthi on 06/09/2007 13:00:21
Has anyone in this thread mentioned that ALL of the Blood faction ships have had their nutz seriously cut off by this ONE change yet? Just checking. If no one has, I have now. I mean COME ON DEVS!! Do you guys even THINK about these changes before you throw them out for people to sink or swim with?

Been flying Blood ships and LOVING them for over three years. Thank you devs for blowing that fun out of the water for me for no good reason. I.E. No reason that people have been able to back up with MATH.

After all, Nos have worked the way they did for OVER FOUR YEARS. Why NOW, all of a SUDDEN, are they such a huge problem for people to deal with?? Ridiculous.






Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2007.09.07 11:23:00 - [1747]
 

To be honest I only see a big problem with the Khanid changes of weapon type. Now most of those pilots have to start training missile skills.

The NOS change sounds nice. A BS will still be able to kill the cap of a frig easy, it will only cost them some cap this time. At least NEUTs will now be used for what they are indented, instead of the NOS.

Tekumze Wolf
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.09.20 10:36:00 - [1748]
 

Edited by: Tekumze Wolf on 20/09/2007 10:38:26
Originally by: Vandagar
NOS is useless now, ship that depended on NOS to keep their cap running are now down. A mission fitted raven can now bust me down and hand me my a** on a silver plate...

Going to cancel my account now. Bye folks...

You're talking about two different things at the same time.

Not sure if you noticed but your cap was fine when your a** was handed to you. The problem you had was that the Ravens cap was also fine and that's what you're complaining about.

If you haven't canceled already can I have your stuff?

As for the last post. Yes Khanid changes require some extra training to use the ships to their potential. That takes like 2 weeks maybe after you decide to go for a certain weapon. Not that big of a deal.


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