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Dominixa
Caldari
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:28:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Stamm

You bought a station that realistically you couldn't expect to hold.


lol I dont recall buying any stations.




Last I heard MC were trying to sell it. Perhaps I heard wrong. Or perhaps they couldn't find a buyer. Or perhaps you did buy it.


Yet another example of a rule of three guy talking out of his arse on the forums!

QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:29:00 - [62]
 

I'm not even trying to log in atm. Good luck to those guys that are fighting atm.

And CCP, fix ze lag!

Cpt Pugwash
Caldari
Rubra Libertas Militia
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:30:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Dominixa


Yet another example of a rule of three guy talking out of his arse on the forums!


Let he who is without sin cast the first stone


Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:30:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
Your alliance is 3 times our size, bring it normally and we'll get a decent fight. You want this kind of impossible game play, be my guest.

You know what else is impossible? Taking a system with 60 moons and 10+ hostile POS in a reasonable timeframe without bringing LOTS of dreads.

Welcome to EVE POS warfare.

Mark Starkiller
Caldari
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:31:00 - [65]
 

its a shame lag is winning again.
anyway gl to all who can log in....

Stamm
Amarr
RHC
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:33:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
Did CA tell you? xD


Heh, I dunno who told me. Can't remember. Took it for granted it was true, since it made sense that MC wouldn't have any long term interests in the north.

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:36:00 - [67]
 

Haha,I shot something in 2 days, finally. It seems rather suprising for a 450 system.

Yeah, the POS snatch kills are fun, we had that 1.5 months ago when we retook S-E. Mistakes were done, we are living with them.

It's not stoping here. We brought the blob because we can as you did, let's not be hypocrites.

Aya
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 21:54:00 - [68]
 

Hostile Chimera DOWN!

Dyne Elapse
Minmatar
Twilight Fleet
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 22:18:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: boogaboob
Dev 1: Guys, we need to do something about this lag.

Dev 2: Yeah, we're getting lots of complaints about..

Dev 3: Hey! I just had a brainstorm! Let's code a heat mechanic!

Dev 1: OOOOOO! Yeah!




Thnx, I needed thatVery Happy

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.07.28 22:22:00 - [70]
 

You know what, it may not be too far fetched that in the near future, we won't be able to fight as we do atm. We may have to let the enemy fleet, jump in and load and then meet at a planet or something. Then warp closer to each other so we can actually fight with big numbers.


Shiraz Merlot
Caldari
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 22:30:00 - [71]
 

T PEPPERAMI

plz post your fleet size and composition in advance of each battle. we then promise to bring equivalent numbers and firepower to guarantee a fair fight!

honest.

/sm

Blazde
Minmatar
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.07.28 22:35:00 - [72]
 

You mean it's time for an intergalactic anti-lag treaty? With sanctions for alliances that exceed 1.5 drones per person or don't cleanup wrecks after them.

Yeahh then I woke up.

Lem2J
Gallente
Black Sea Industries
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:10:00 - [73]
 

Tonight is BS... Another example of the defenders being rapped because they cant do anything, see anything.. *sigh*

Wei Xiao
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:17:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Aya
Hostile Chimera DOWN!


who's the poor dude killed by server?Neutral

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:23:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Lem2J
Tonight is BS... Another example of the defenders being rapped because they cant do anything, see anything.. *sigh*


Hire MC!

Wei Xiao
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:28:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Lem2J
Tonight is BS... Another example of the defenders being rapped because they cant do anything, see anything.. *sigh*


Hire MC!

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Pepperami
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:34:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Pepperami on 28/07/2007 23:34:40
Originally by: Shiraz Merlot
T PEPPERAMI

plz post your fleet size and composition in advance of each battle. we then promise to bring equivalent numbers and firepower to guarantee a fair fight!

honest.

/sm


Got a reading problem? I'm happy for you to bring these numbers. It saved at least 3 pos today because you lagged out/blue balled for so long. Guess we'll be fighting all week Very Happy

Testosterone Bomb
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:37:00 - [78]
 

Edited by: Testosterone Bomb on 28/07/2007 23:37:31
Wei Xiao of STK Scientific

I want to think you very much for that sig of yours !
heck I hurt a rib laughing :)

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Mr Funkadelic
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:38:00 - [79]
 

ShockedThere is no lag!


Aeon Black
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:38:00 - [80]
 

An epic fight destroyed by lag.... Shame...


Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:41:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
Edited by: Pepperami on 28/07/2007 23:34:40
Originally by: Shiraz Merlot
T PEPPERAMI

plz post your fleet size and composition in advance of each battle. we then promise to bring equivalent numbers and firepower to guarantee a fair fight!

honest.

/sm


Got a reading problem? I'm happy for you to bring these numbers. It saved at least 3 pos today because you lagged out/blue balled for so long. Guess we'll be fighting all week Very Happy


Being proud of your achievements is nice and shiny... but I don't think you realy want to do this. You're very good guerilla warriors, highly efficient in small fast gangs, but POS warfare is a new thing for you.

Let's not pretend you enjoy it.

A bit off topic, could Fozzy TBE from FATAL post his geddon loss on the 2-3 gate 1.5 hours ago? I can't find the person who got it Crying or Very sad

Pepperami
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:44:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Being proud of your achievements is nice and shiny... but I don't think you realy want to do this. You're very good guerilla warriors, highly efficient in small fast gangs, but POS warfare is a new thing for you.


You don't have a clue who we are, do you?

SMercer
Caldari
Lethal Corp
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:51:00 - [83]
 

Cult of War has very good pvpers. I give them a lot of respect for that, however your allies are about as useful as ____ on a bull (you know the saying). Cult of War and Tri are the only 2 alliances up north I wouldnt fight without a larger gang than they have. You bring good fights, much respect. I have nothing bad to say about CoW in their abiity to fight.

Noluck Ned
Gallente
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:52:00 - [84]
 

I experienced the rare pleasure of being slowly taken into armor by one lone fighter while I was sitting there waiting for my guns to reload. I watched it on overview slowly coming towards me from 100km. Slowly it got into range and began working on me. At last warp kicked in and I was away.

I came back to the gate and nothing loaded in space, what should show up? that same templar, not on overview but it was the only thing I could see in space. TS confirmed that the battle was raging, we were on the carriers at the time I believe. Most people in gang could not see them either.

About two minutes later my lock on the fighter finally resolved and my guns activated a few minutes after that. Presently the fighter popped and That was my only kill in that encounter. I gave up and warped back to our tower and had someone in gang confirm they could see me there, since I still could see nothing at all on overview or in space. About 15 minutes later the grid loaded.

Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.Neutral


Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:52:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Being proud of your achievements is nice and shiny... but I don't think you realy want to do this. You're very good guerilla warriors, highly efficient in small fast gangs, but POS warfare is a new thing for you.


You don't have a clue who we are, do you?


No comment.

Ashigara
Minmatar
Shocky Industries Ltd.
Fallen Souls
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:52:00 - [86]
 

Iff CCP will not fix the problem, than next time we will choose 5 best pilot and make arena. Very Happy
Fleet engagement with 400+ people dont have any sens now.

Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.28 23:53:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Noluck Ned
I experienced the rare pleasure of being slowly taken into armor by one lone fighter while I was sitting there waiting for my guns to reload. I watched it on overview slowly coming towards me from 100km. Slowly it got into range and began working on me. At last warp kicked in and I was away.

I came back to the gate and nothing loaded in space, what should show up? that same templar, not on overview but it was the only thing I could see in space. TS confirmed that the battle was raging, we were on the carriers at the time I believe. Most people in gang could not see them either.

About two minutes later my lock on the fighter finally resolved and my guns activated a few minutes after that. Presently the fighter popped and That was my only kill in that encounter. I gave up and warped back to our tower and had someone in gang confirm they could see me there, since I still could see nothing at all on overview or in space. About 15 minutes later the grid loaded.

Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.Neutral



If it makes you happy, the carriers could hardly see anything either.. Razz

Princess Jodi
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.07.29 00:05:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Noluck Ned
I experienced the rare pleasure of being slowly taken into armor by one lone fighter while I was sitting there waiting for my guns to reload. I watched it on overview slowly coming towards me from 100km. Slowly it got into range and began working on me. At last warp kicked in and I was away.

I came back to the gate and nothing loaded in space, what should show up? that same templar, not on overview but it was the only thing I could see in space. TS confirmed that the battle was raging, we were on the carriers at the time I believe. Most people in gang could not see them either.

About two minutes later my lock on the fighter finally resolved and my guns activated a few minutes after that. Presently the fighter popped and That was my only kill in that encounter. I gave up and warped back to our tower and had someone in gang confirm they could see me there, since I still could see nothing at all on overview or in space. About 15 minutes later the grid loaded.

Yay, I soloed a templar, woop-de-doo.Neutral





Beautiful Story! I gotta admit I was smiling. But then again I was rooting for the Fighter!Laughing

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.07.29 00:07:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Evelgrivion
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 28/07/2007 20:53:00
I do wish people would do something other than complain about lag Neutral

Have you ever wondered what exactly happens when a large fleet jumps into a system? The following is approximately what happens.

1. Everything on the grid is loaded to each person
2. All special effects and turret effects of anyone and everyone are broadcast to the people in question. Every person who hasn't turned off turret effects and effects adds a considerable amount of lag.
3. The information of their ship, and relevant statistics are loaded for every ship. Damage, tracking, etc.
4. The X Y Z coordinates of every drone is controlled and broadcast to everyone on the same grid.

The amount of processing required by the node increases exponentially with every person added to a grid. Unfortunately, that is the nature of the code at this time. Until someone finds out a fantastically amazing way of reducing the amount of processing required for each individual, and more importantly, how to spread the data processing load past one processing core, things will not change. Until then, the more you blob, the more you lag. Don't complain about it; you know what is going to happen.


Kieron, is that you?

Yeah, what a strange concept we have here. People paying to play a game, and expecting it to work.

Damn, people really expect too much these days...

Overlord Kaiser
Amarr
Screaming Rubber Ducks From Outer Space
Posted - 2007.07.29 00:35:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Overlord Kaiser on 29/07/2007 00:37:27
Edited by: Overlord Kaiser on 29/07/2007 00:35:57
Lag is expected in any large battle. At times modules takes several minutes to active. It is the same for all attending parties in any large battle, at least if you have done what you can to decrease the client side lag. The main problem right now is not the lag though, it is the desync. That is a completely different ballgame. Over the years lag have increased as the number of pilots involved in battles has grown. Right now, however, you get the desync ruining small fights with only 20-30 pilots on each side, fights that 2 years ago did not cause any problems. Granted I was not involved in this particular fight, but it seems to be the same for any fight these days. Granted I was not part of this particular fight, but it seems to be the same in every fight these days. Sometimes desync strikes when you least expect it to.


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