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Samuel Freedom
Minmatar
The High Hats
xX Reavers Xx
Posted - 2007.06.23 22:31:00 - [1]
 

Is it me or is the bouns on the prowler a bit crappy ? (shield booster + 5%) Now im sure this would be fantastic for some shield tanking mission runner but not so much the blockade runner eh ?

Now given that a gate camp wont really give you much time to shield boost on warp in (as that is where the danger now lies with WTZ here, smart bombtastic it is) shouldn't the bonus now change to reflect other changes ? i.e. Maybe im wrong, its quite possible as I have just started doing a few Blockade runs into lo sec and know next to nothing tbh, but this is my prespective as someone who is new to this type of job.

ATM im using :-

High = nothing

Med = Large Shield, Medium Shield, Heat Diss' Amp' Tech II

Low = Expanded Carghold Tech II, 'stoic' Core Eqaulizer.

I know this setup is pants Embarassed but im new to this, but the way I see it if someone is just smart bombing the gate on warp in you aint gonna have time to activate your booster(esp' with lag). Wouldn't some sort of power need reduction be more balanced ? I realise that I have probably got it totally wrong but what would your setups and tatics be ? Also what (if any) would like to see to the changes of the 'Transport' Bounus?

P.S. I must say I do like the +2 Warp Str Razz


Drazhar Kain
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
Posted - 2007.06.24 01:54:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Drazhar Kain on 24/06/2007 01:53:14
Well, you've got a few problems.

You need a MWD, and a cloak. Oh, and nanos or intertial stabs in the lows. Yeah.

Prowler sans MWD makes 8lb 10oz baby Jesus cry.

*edit* Oh, and look at all the other blockade runner bonuses- they're equally crappy.

Emerald666
Amarr
LoneStar Industries
Posted - 2007.06.24 02:46:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Emerald666 on 24/06/2007 02:46:20
Going for a fast Transport Ship? lol
MED-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Cap Recharger II x2

LOW-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Domination Overdrive Injector
Domination Nanofiber Structure

RIG-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Ancillary Current Router II

SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Powergrid: 182.0 MW/186.875 MW
CPU: 72.5 tf/281.25 tf
Capacitor (regen): 732.422 Energy (112.5sec)
Max Cap Regen: 15.95 per sec (approx.)
Max Cap Needed: 10.688 per sec
Velocity: 9627.856m/sec
Agility Modifier : 1.375 x
Capacity : 3452.0
Warp Max Distance : 1343.9AU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MED-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Cap Recharger II

LOW-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Domination Overdrive Injector x2
Domination Nanofiber Structure x2

RIG-SLOTS:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Auxiliary Thrusters II
Polycarbon Engine Housing II

SHIP'S ATTRIBUTES:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Powergrid: 181.0 MW/187.5 MW
CPU: 61.25 tf/243.75 tf
Capacitor (regen): 878.906 Energy (168.75sec)
Max Cap Regen: 12.76 per sec (approx.)
Max Cap Needed: 10.688 per sec
Velocity: 10869.863m/sec
Agility Modifier: 1.375x
Capacity: 2257.0
Warp Max Distance: 1500.2AU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Which is faster? Cool
YES! This IS with MAX skills (again) and Snakes+Hardwires
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HINT: You get bubbled... Let's just say YOUR shiny fast ship is Cannon Fodder. YARRRR!!

ArtemisEntreri
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.06.24 04:45:00 - [4]
 

Why are you posting over 2b in setups for haulers???
Stop browsing through quickfit looking at the best possible solution and play the game.
Quickfit gives incorrect results but gives you a estimate of what you can fit and an estimate of damage.

What is the point for fitting for 10km/s? Are you expecting to run a gatecamp with that?
If you jump into a bubble camp all you have to do is go 3km/s to get to the gate in most cases, if you warp into a bubble you just need to mwd back and warp.

When you post these please specify what ship you're posting setups for, I'm gonna assume the lower one is a prorator. Yes the prorator is better in most aspects but there is one prowler is better at and that is cargo, but we're not here to discuss which is better we're here to discuss prowler setups.

My prowler is this:

1 improved cloak
1 cynogen (offline)

1 y-t mwd
2 whatever

2 nanofibers

This gets me roughly 3km/s, if I jump into a camp what I do is mwd towards an object, cloak wait for mwd to expire uncloak and instawarp. If the bubble is too big I reapproach the gate.

king jks
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
Posted - 2007.06.24 05:39:00 - [5]
 

for travel:

cloak
10mn MWD II, 2x invuln II
overdrive, istab

when I'm picking up my main's ratting loot:

2x tractor beam
10mn AB II, medium booster II, EM II
overdrive, istab

(sansha rats)

Samuel Freedom
Minmatar
The High Hats
xX Reavers Xx
Posted - 2007.06.24 21:38:00 - [6]
 

thx ill soon be able to fix most of them setups but it seems to me is tactics is what I have wrong. Basically what I do now if I was to encounter a camp at the gate is :-

1) Just jumped through gate - Pick my next gate hope they cant Warp Scram me (due to my fittings and bonus) and hope I can tank any hits they dish out. where as what I should be doing is ;

1a) Just jumped through gate - pick an object, hit MWD then hit cloak, when MWD stops hit warp have I got that right ?

Also I would like to know what do you guys do if on warp in there is a mothership or any other ships that are spamming smartbombs how do you deal with that ? or can these setups tank it long enough to make the jump ?

Emerald666
Amarr
LoneStar Industries
Posted - 2007.06.25 08:05:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
Why are you posting over 2b in setups for haulers???
Stop browsing through quickfit looking at the best possible solution and play the game.
Quickfit gives incorrect results but gives you a estimate of what you can fit and an estimate of damage.

What is the point for fitting for 10km/s? Are you expecting to run a gatecamp with that?
If you jump into a bubble camp all you have to do is go 3km/s to get to the gate in most cases, if you warp into a bubble you just need to mwd back and warp.

When you post these please specify what ship you're posting setups for, I'm gonna assume the lower one is a prorator. Yes the prorator is better in most aspects but there is one prowler is better at and that is cargo, but we're not here to discuss which is better we're here to discuss prowler setups.

My prowler is this:

1 improved cloak
1 cynogen (offline)

1 y-t mwd
2 whatever

2 nanofibers

This gets me roughly 3km/s, if I jump into a camp what I do is mwd towards an object, cloak wait for mwd to expire uncloak and instawarp. If the bubble is too big I reapproach the gate.


No... Only reason I posted that if you ARE wondering sir... Is to show which is THE fastest. ;) Chill out for Once -CoW-


 

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