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Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:14:00 - [1]
 

As the T2 lottory comes to an end (well almost) I was just wondering if there were any others like me who have been on for 4years and did not win anything?

Am I bitter? No Just a little disappointed.

Grats to everyone who did win one this time around.

Plave Okice
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
Yezhovshchina
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:17:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Mysticaa
any others like me who have been on for 4years and did not win anything?


No, you're the only one Crying or Very sad

Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:18:00 - [3]
 

LOL

Man I hope not. If so I think CCP should give me a T2 shuttle BPO Razz

The RepoMan
Caldari
Red Horizon Inc
Red Horizon
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:20:00 - [4]
 

lol no, everyone else won something, that's how a lottery works.

Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari
Final Agony
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:36:00 - [5]
 

Course this now leaves me with a few questions.. what happens to existing bpos, and does invention still suck. Kind of annoyed ill never ever get my own isk license in eve but sigh o well, back to actually earning my isk.

Eranos
Posted - 2007.06.01 21:47:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus
Course this now leaves me with a few questions.. what happens to existing bpos, and does invention still suck. Kind of annoyed ill never ever get my own isk license in eve but sigh o well, back to actually earning my isk.


well i can't say for sure, but i think it will happen like this:
- Market Prices for (some) Data Cubes will drop a bit once the lottery is over, because everyone will transfer his/her r&d points into cubes (and thats like 2000 cubes for someone with e.g. 300k Points in Starship R&D)
- Revelation 2.0 will add more exploration sites = hopefully more interfaces = maybe lower interface prices = more possible inventors
- In 3 - 4 weeks most people will have finished their faction standing grind to get access to the more expensiv data cube fields (like mech. eng.) which will result in another price drop

this will lead to a lower price for inventions and more people being able to invent = more inventions = hopefully lower prices (although it seems most T2 stuff has dropped to a pretty low level already after the "new" bpo lottery started + lower min prices). So i guess you can say that invention doesn't suck (especially once T3 gets introduced!).

Existing BPOs will stay ingame afaik and their owners will still be able to produce the items, but they won't be able to make that much money (but still more than someone inventing a bpc).

Hermia
Steel Daggers
Sev3rance
Posted - 2007.06.01 22:10:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Eranos
So i guess you can say that invention doesn't suck (especially once T3 gets introduced!).

Existing BPOs will stay ingame afaik and their owners will still be able to produce the items, but they won't be able to make that much money (but still more than someone inventing a bpc).


I live in hope that once T3 is introduced it'll put everyone back to square one on the fairness ladder.

However i have remaining doubts. What are the chances T3 items require the T2 equivalent as an ingredient? Pretty high i think, just hope that doesn't happen.

Basai dai
Posted - 2007.06.01 22:46:00 - [8]
 

I posted a tongue in cheek coment about bpo's "bobbing" up to be claimed. And my post was mysteriously deleted...

Nice one you thought police, go and seed yourselves some new goodies for your bob alts.

Johnnie Nano
The Scope
Posted - 2007.06.01 22:49:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Basai dai
I posted a tongue in cheek coment about bpo's "bobbing" up to be claimed. And my post was mysteriously deleted...

Nice one you thought police, go and seed yourselves some new goodies for your bob alts.


cancel account is <----that way

shuoo
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:06:00 - [10]
 

If some people have tech 2 BPO's why cant evreyone? I mean if you put the work in let them get their due. It cost more to make a tech 2 item from invention then a reserched BPO.Doesnt seem fair to the new players.

Can anyone explain to me the reason behind ending the t2 lotto?

Red Six
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:18:00 - [11]
 

I've got two characters with way to many RP and didn't get a single offer either. Guess I should have hauled more trash for my agents and level 4 on the skills wasn't enough. Hell, at this point I'd settle for anything no matter how useless just to say I actually got something.

Basai dai
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:24:00 - [12]
 

Quote:
cancel account is <----that way


Sounds almost like a dev quote. like the one where they said "if you dont like the way we run things you can find anoher game" in so many words. Nice...

And yes i have quit, I do not pay for eve anymore and have transfered my accounts to a mate, I still have access to post with my old chars as my mate did not change the passwords. My main was Tana pleiades and I created a corp nearly 2 years ago that still exists to this day it has no afiliations to goons or bob. The hostility shown by the developers has disgusted me. Scandal after scandal. The fact remains that they have the power to spawn at will items worth thousands in real life currency in seconds then sell it on ebay. This power would not be abused though surely? Oh but they have already admitted this has been done by T20 for bob.

This was done purely with the motivation of "the desire to help your old corp" imagine 2 devs working together one spawning items the other picking them up and selling them, and then selling on the isk on ebay. I would imagine that thousands of pounds or the licence to print real life money via this action is a thousands times more tempting than just "the desire to help a corp" and in light of current revelations I certainly do not put it past CCP now.



Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:31:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Red Six
I've got two characters with way to many RP and didn't get a single offer either. Guess I should have hauled more trash for my agents and level 4 on the skills wasn't enough. Hell, at this point I'd settle for anything no matter how useless just to say I actually got something.


Hehe I know the feeling.. Not possible in my case. Join me in the T2 Tin foil hat or T2 Shuttle campain. Razz

Al Thorr
Caldari
The Wheel
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:40:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Al Thorr on 01/06/2007 23:39:14
over 3.5 years - 5 bpos - all kept and not sold on ....



Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2007.06.01 23:58:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Gamer4liff on 02/06/2007 00:00:03
I won 4 this year, all kept. I had been researching for years before, so it was good to finally get something out of it. it was totally worth it to make that r&d char at the first power of 2 campaign those years ago also.

Lady ISK'Alot
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:01:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Mysticaa
As the T2 lottory comes to an end (well almost) I was just wondering if there were any others like me who have been on for 4years and did not win anything?

Am I bitter? No Just a little disappointed.

Grats to everyone who did win one this time around.


tried it for 3years+ and no result.

a m8 of mine has been trying it for like nearing a year and a half and has had 15+... wheres the love?

Plim
Gallente
Everything Financial
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:05:00 - [17]
 

I got a HAM Launcher II BPO with 12000 RP points on a level 3 agent.

Market is saturated now though.

Krashtest
Exploratory Conglomerate
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:14:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Basai dai




And yes i have quit, I do not pay for eve anymore and have transfered my accounts to a mate, I still have access to post with my old chars as my mate did not change the passwords. My main was Tana pleiades and I created a corp nearly 2 years ago that still exists to this day it has no afiliations to goons or bob. The hostility shown by the developers has disgusted me.








Considering you "transferring your accounts to a mate" which is not allowed according to the EULA, and you posting about it here, i hope your friend was not too attached to "his" accounts.

Lisento Slaven
The Drekla Consortium
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:17:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Krashtest
Originally by: Basai dai




And yes i have quit, I do not pay for eve anymore and have transfered my accounts to a mate, I still have access to post with my old chars as my mate did not change the passwords. My main was Tana pleiades and I created a corp nearly 2 years ago that still exists to this day it has no afiliations to goons or bob. The hostility shown by the developers has disgusted me.








Considering you "transferring your accounts to a mate" which is not allowed according to the EULA, and you posting about it here, i hope your friend was not too attached to "his" accounts.


Either that or he's trying to get someone he doesn't like banned by saying he gave them his account.

Blind Man
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:17:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Krashtest


Considering you "transferring your accounts to a mate" which is not allowed according to the EULA, and you posting about it here, i hope your friend was not too attached to "his" accounts.


you tattle tale on people at school I guess too right? Rolling Eyes

Miri Tirzan
Caldari
Clan Korval
Posted - 2007.06.02 00:28:00 - [21]
 

I will miss the lottery. So far I have gotten around 12 or 13 BPOs since it started. I messed up on one that I was offered and did not get it. So far the lottery has been very good to me.


Tramp Oline
Posted - 2007.06.02 01:07:00 - [22]
 

It will probably happen like this.

1) They leave T2 bpos alone for quite a while.
2) Datacores flood the market and severly reduce the cost of invention
3) CCP unnerfs invention and your invented bpcs will have regular ME levels instead of the negative ones to make the cost of invention less than the cost of building with a BPO.
4) The T2 BPO owners put the worthless bpos in a can and they collect dust.
5) Now that T2 BPOs are worthless, CCP announces they are converting them to high run bpcs and nobody complains.

Sort of like what happened to the old unlimited run bpcs. Eventually people researched their BPOs and the unlimited run bpcs were forgotten because most of them were at ME 0 or ME 1 and suddenly it costs more to build with them. Then CCP converted them to high run bpcs.

This is not the end but a new beginning.

Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus
Course this now leaves me with a few questions.. what happens to existing bpos, and does invention still suck. Kind of annoyed ill never ever get my own isk license in eve but sigh o well, back to actually earning my isk.

Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2007.06.02 02:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Tramp Oline

4) The T2 BPO owners put the worthless bpos in a can and they collect dust.


I seriously doubt that, given the complexities and uncertainties of invention, anything close to a majority of T2 owners would put their BPOs into cans never to be used again. Besides, once T3 engineering is out I imagine making T2 BPCs from the BPOs might factor into that process.

Mysticaa
Gallente
Fringe Roamers of Goa
Posted - 2007.06.02 03:03:00 - [24]
 

So I guess the next question we should be asking is ...

Are the previously mentioned improvements to invention anywhere near a reality? Should we expect to see them in Rev 2? Rev 2.1? Rev 2.2? Or whatever expansion comes after Rev? (not looking for dates just estimates of which expansion/update we should start to get our hopes up for :)


 

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