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Topic |
Alfred Winchester
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2007.05.06 07:01:00 - [ 91]
Edited by: Alfred Winchester on 06/05/2007 07:03:32 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 04/05/2007 14:51:44
Originally by: scabbsssjr
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: Kimaraa
Originally by: scabbsssjr
3. FIX- How many times has someone tried to kill these guys?
I disagree, FIX is there because every time a hostile sovereignty threatening POS is being planted in Querios (and FIX can't remove it), BoB comes there and removes it. The same happens when hostile forces try to remove FIX sov POSes.
well thats what you got allys for ;) but anyway
This thread is about alliances with military strength, not alliances "allied" with military strengthened alliances.
Hi troll. This thread is about our opinions, their for what you think of my views does not matter and should not even be posted since it can start a flame war. But simply put FIX has survived so much crap down their (Your attempts at taking their space, Coalition of Dead Alliances thing are just a few). IMO military strength and a groups ability to survive allot of crap thrown at them go hand and hand (like I said with RA, they survived allot)
If I didn't put Fix, it would be MC.
If my post is still here, it's not a "troll", mods should take care of that, right mods?
This is my opinion upon an alliance with no military strength whatsoever, ok? I have the right to disagree, troll...
Military strength is your own ability to respond by force when attacked or to attack on your own. If you think FIX can do all that on their own, you should revise a lot of your facts.
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone, only when it was 3+ allances vs FIX did BOB enter to help, last time Razor destroyed 2 POS's in ED and put up their own it was only possible due to more than 5 alliances showing numbers there, when it came to Razor alone defending them they lost the towers, you guys should be ashamed, IRON+RAZOR+MM+TRI+RA+GOONS+D2+IAC+all the rest were unable to take down BOB, sad, sad, pathetic excuses for PVP alliances if you ask me, and the only reason you guys can even come to the south is cause your all lovey dovey in the north and NAP everyone, fracking carebears i swear and funny how when a few pull out (MM and Tri) the rest start heading home north to, first IRON about 2-3 weeks ago, then RAZOR last week, now you've left Pure to do the job, what are you cycling out alliances into FIX space now cause you couldn't beat us with brute force so now your going for attrition, your really not very smart are you, your major tacticians must think they are so smart sending alliances for tours of Querious only to be cycled home for R&R every now and then, your pounding on the wrong bloody people, if all you northern alliances really had a big set of brass balls you'd be in Aridia, in Zinkon flying straight into NOL daily, but no, your to scared of BOB to actually go after them. I'd have to say: BOB MC D2 RA: lots of caps, no tactical skill, just brute force Goons: Lots of numbers, not much skill and again, mostly just brute force LV and IAC get mentions as powerful, skilled resourceful alliances, even though LV is displaced they can still bring a fight. |
Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.06 07:14:00 - [ 92]
Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 06/05/2007 07:10:06 Originally by: Alfred Winchester
first IRON about 2-3 weeks ago, then RAZOR last week, now you've left Pure to do the job, what are you cycling out alliances into FIX space now cause you couldn't beat us with brute force so now your going for attrition, your really not very smart are you, your major tacticians must think they are so smart sending alliances for tours of Querious only to be cycled home for R&R every now and then
Just so I get this right. You're trying to say Northern Alliances are taking a break from mighty FIX by going to fight MC, YW, BoB, AA, Xelas, AXE et cetera. Ooooookay. Don't mind me then, I'm going bungee jumping without a cord to take a break from the excitement of watching paint dry. |
Alfred Winchester
Caldari
Galactic Liberation Forces
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Posted - 2007.05.06 07:22:00 - [ 93]
Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 06/05/2007 07:10:06
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
first IRON about 2-3 weeks ago, then RAZOR last week, now you've left Pure to do the job, what are you cycling out alliances into FIX space now cause you couldn't beat us with brute force so now your going for attrition, your really not very smart are you, your major tacticians must think they are so smart sending alliances for tours of Querious only to be cycled home for R&R every now and then
Just so I get this right. You're trying to say Northern Alliances are taking a break from mighty FIX by going to fight MC, YW, BoB, AA, Xelas, AXE et cetera.
Ooooookay. Don't mind me then, I'm going bungee jumping without a cord to take a break from the excitement of watching paint dry.
Funny you should say that, most of our scouts have seen many of your guys return to Tenal... Also are you admitting that the Mighty Coalition that was formed to completely destroy BOB is failing as has to spread their fleets out amongst to many regions, to many hostile alliances and to many fronts, haha i'm so glad you posted, you just made my day by proving that your not the mighty coalition that will take down BOB  |
boogaboob
Caldari
Arctic Wolves
RaVeN Federation |
Posted - 2007.05.06 07:40:00 - [ 94]
Edited by: boogaboob on 06/05/2007 07:38:16 Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Rabble Rabble Rabble
An incredibly well-thought-out, well-informed, unbiased, and generally intelligent post. I salute you, you are a god among men. On Topic though: 1. Obivously BoB. Like them or hate them, they are undisputably the strongest single pvp force ingame. Huge capital fleet, good discipline, tons of high SP members, great fleet commanders. No single other entity can stand up to them. 2. I'm going to have to go with RA/AAA. Large capital fleet and knows how to use it. Has money coming out of their various orifices. General skilled membership. 3. This would be a tie between D2 and the MC. MC is extremely skilled and has, what, 1 capital ship per 2 members? They also have ownage sigs. D2 on the other hand, is pretty large, has 'teh monies' galore, and still has a decent capfleet. I rate them at the same level as the MC only because of their greater money and size. Honorable mention: Goonswarm. Bunch of (lovable) dopes tbh, but huge numbers and basically undefeatable. also, the fat bees with hats pwn even more than the MC sigs. (my opinions are my own and may not be those of my corporation/alliance. However, I'm sure they agree with me that the above poster is an idiot.) |
Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.06 08:27:00 - [ 95]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Funny you should say that, most of our scouts have seen many of your guys return to Tenal...
We're in Fade, come visit. Your scouts need work, but that's not news. As for the rest, I'm confused as to why you're grasping at straws to cheerlead with, as if that would somehow disprove the impotence of your favored entity. By your very reasoning, MWA has repelled an endless set of invaders as well. Certainly they are an impressive military force ? |
Sacul
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.06 11:42:00 - [ 96]
ffs cant even 1 post stay ontopic without dereailment.. ..ppl are sticking feathers up other ppl's as-ses-s here....stick to that cuz its smells better than this above bullcrap...........again....and again...and again...in allmost every damn thread... .self controle is a virtue lost on most bahhhhhh  fecking alts who are so clearly in fix.....really what the hell is that guy thinking? crappy forums are really no fun no more (now my hangover just got worse, thnx. need asprin now). |
THX 1138
Minmatar
D00M.
Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2007.05.06 15:35:00 - [ 97]
The fun ones to fight are MC and FLA. Honestly can't think of a third.
Been AFK for quite some time though so maybe things have changed. |
ParMizaN
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem |
Posted - 2007.05.06 17:50:00 - [ 98]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone, only when it was 3+ allances vs FIX did BOB enter to help, last time Razor destroyed 2 POS's in ED and put up their own it was only possible due to more than 5 alliances showing numbers there, when it came to Razor alone defending them they lost the towers, you guys should be ashamed, IRON+RAZOR+MM+TRI+RA+GOONS+D2+IAC+all the rest were unable to take down BOB, sad, sad, pathetic excuses for PVP alliances if you ask me, and the only reason you guys can even come to the south is cause your all lovey dovey in the north and NAP everyone, fracking carebears i swear and funny how when a few pull out (MM and Tri) the rest start heading home north to, first IRON about 2-3 weeks ago, then RAZOR last week, now you've left Pure to do the job, what are you cycling out alliances into FIX space now cause you couldn't beat us with brute force so now your going for attrition, your really not very smart are you, your major tacticians must think they are so smart sending alliances for tours of Querious only to be cycled home for R&R every now and then, your pounding on the wrong bloody people, if all you northern alliances really had a big set of brass balls you'd be in Aridia, in Zinkon flying straight into NOL daily, but no, your to scared of BOB to actually go after them.
That is one riduculusly long sentence  |
Sokratesz
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2007.05.06 19:28:00 - [ 99]
Phoenix Alliance |
David Godfrey
Gallente
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2007.05.06 22:23:00 - [ 100]
Hmm is a good question from what i have seen latley id say;
BOB
GOONS
RA |
Jordan Musgrat
Gallente
Convergent
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Posted - 2007.05.07 08:06:00 - [ 101]
There's a reason he didn't post with his main, don't pay attention to the flames :p Since I'm actually posting, I'd say,
1) BoB
2) MC
3) RA/AAA |
Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.07 09:42:00 - [ 102]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
he contradicted me on stuff that you can read above
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone, only when it was 3+ allances vs FIX did BOB enter to help.
Who was your main in the operation 10 days ago when RZR alone put a FIX POS into reinforced and destroyed it later? You couldn't even hold the gate and you harassed us with fighters in shuttles. You had 4 carriers and lots of support in the system. We had none. I'd say the forces shown by the killboards were even, but the final countdown was (RZR)30:3(FIX) or so. It wasn't this a single ops that we had in Querios against FIX. It's normal to have pride (and brown nose), but don't over do it. |
Phrixus Zephyr
Gallente
MEK Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:48:00 - [ 103]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone
I stopped reading right there. The guy obviously hasn't a clue what he's talking about. |
marcouk2
Gallente
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North |
Posted - 2007.05.07 12:15:00 - [ 104]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone
Your kb tells a different story, you have to go back 6 months to find a dread kill that has a majority of fix on it, with fix only kills non-existant. Some of the recent ones have no fix on at all besides the tower, with the most I could find being 4 fix members on the mail. |
LedPellet
Amarr
Iron Dragon Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.14 08:04:00 - [ 105]
Edited by: LedPellet on 14/05/2007 08:03:49
Edited by: LedPellet on 14/05/2007 08:03:17
Well tbh..
BoB has more then BoB.. If your gonna group RA/AAA together then you must group BoB/MC..
And SIngle alliance wich is the best is hard to say.. Because most of what you say is .. Really who has the best team..
BoB is MC/FIX/ANYONE ELSE IN FOUNTAIN/FEYTH and other areas here and there and all the other pets..
RA/AAA/GOONS/IAC All to to be sorta together as a team..+pets
D2/IRON/MM/RZR/PURE and all them other pets and friends..
SO really, Its who has the best team? Or Who is the best Single Alliance..
Because if you put RA/AAA together and call people idiots to not put them together then.. How can they 2 of your top 3 since they are 1..
But anyway..
1. GOONS - Beacuse as a Single alliance with no help, They just never stop coming..Sooner or later you gonna run outta something and then 1 lone goon bantam will be standing..
2. MC - Because I think with or without BoB they would be resourcefull enough to still be a dominate threat..
3. I really dont know who to pick for 3rd so I will just say... Fatal Pursuation..Why not right? lol
I didnt include bob cause I consider them more of a great team captain then a great Alliance..
If for everyones sake, pls stop reffering to this war as Coalition VS. BoB..You discredit so many Southern alliance when you say that..Unless of course the southern alliance like to live in the shadows of a grand credit taker..Thats for them to decide I guess..
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Manfred Sideous
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2007.05.14 08:49:00 - [ 106]
BOB - Anyone who questions this is in denial
MC - Seleene and Co. Are dismantling one of the largest IGA's atm and doing pretty well
AAA - I hate these guys and I love them. They have been my arch nemisis since day 1 but I got alot of respect for them for actually being able to bring it instead of chest beating.
Outbreak - Well as of current IAC felt compelled to hire a mercanary corporation to augment there strength in dealing with us. I guess 2000 man alliance wasnt enough. |
Arenis Xemdal
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.14 08:55:00 - [ 107]
LedPellet, unlike the teams and political blocs you describe, AAA/RA are the only ones who fly together on practically every op there is. Trying to represent the BoB/MC relationship as being identical is wrong, because we rarely see each other, much less fly with one another.
The question asked which alliances people thought were best, and for most you can get an accurate idea of what their military strength is alone because theres enough cases of them flying alone. The military strength people associate with either AAA or RA is usually the combination of the two, since its usually more rare to see them doing anything big alone. |
MACTEP
Minmatar
Solar Dragons
SOLAR FLEET |
Posted - 2007.05.14 08:56:00 - [ 108]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
I'd have to say:
BOB
MC
D2
RA: lots of caps, no tactical skill, just brute force
Goons: Lots of numbers, not much skill and again, mostly just brute force
LV and IAC get mentions as powerful, skilled resourceful alliances, even though LV is displaced they can still bring a fight.
its so funny when such "experienced person" talk about "tactical skill" ) |
Remmington Daniels
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire |
Posted - 2007.05.14 09:41:00 - [ 109]
Originally by: MACTEP
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
I'd have to say:
BOB
MC
D2
RA: lots of caps, no tactical skill, just brute force
Goons: Lots of numbers, not much skill and again, mostly just brute force
LV and IAC get mentions as powerful, skilled resourceful alliances, even though LV is displaced they can still bring a fight.
They have skill, and are pretty good at tactics. I still don't agree with the "logoffski" tripe though. That makes the russians look silly
its so funny when such "experienced person" talk about "tactical skill" )
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fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku |
Posted - 2007.05.14 09:49:00 - [ 110]
Leaving out my own alliance
1 - Mercenery coalition ( great fighters and nice people)
2 - Morhus Mihi ( always brought a good fight to the table )
3 - Ra ( Large cap fleet and dedicated pilots, would be higer ranked imo if they engaged more )
These choices are based upon people i have fought against or have had alot of dealings with
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Chirinako
Caldari
The Junkyard Dogs
Talos Coalition |
Posted - 2007.05.14 10:23:00 - [ 111]
I think the easiest way to judge this is who uses their capitals wisely and efficiently.
Undoubtedly Bob and RA; for Goons constant storm troop use, they'll be in there too. RAgoon is incredibly efficient and can challenge anyone.
So yeah; Bob, RA, Goons. |
Endeva
Caldari
Red Dragon Crime Syndicate.
|
Posted - 2007.05.14 11:36:00 - [ 112]
1 MC - everyone knows that
2 Outbreak ermm corp - scary little bandits:)
3 aaa/ra - or can i type just russians |
Redbad
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:01:00 - [ 113]
Edited by: Redbad on 14/05/2007 12:01:34Alliances and Corporations are nothing without great leaders that can get its men and women achieving the set goals (how tiny they may be for some smaller entities in this game). I've seen many great things being achieved by people that are inspired by their leaders and it is that what I love in this game, seeing leadership at work! Therefore I cannot judge an alliance without giving its leaders a thought. Warfare in EvE is relative, leadership is not! 1. SeleeneFast changing goals, tactical insights and a superb out of game network to round up the troops fast. He is supported by some very capable member sthat would tactically whoop a s s with some fleetcommanders of other greater alliances in this game. Keeps a sound distance to the daily hype. 2. RemedialFrom noting to everything, to nothing, to everything. He can set goals, he can get people to achieve them, the question is can he hold on to his achievements? Focuses very strongly on giving his alliance a certain attitude in this game that will work imo very well. He needs some more good advisors or diplomats though to emphazize the strong point of this alliance a bit more. 3. SirMolleSetting big goals, focussing on the big picture and he might act as the big absolute leader, he is listening to his advisors before acting. It is one of his stronger characteristic. Diplomacy is one of the stronger points of his club. 4. XirtamVOTFHumourous, tireless, doing the untold and unexpecting, never give up mentality. Some things may work out, some may not, but after all is said, its still a game to him. Your game will never be the same if you are in his corner.  5. VeroneInspires through action and constuctivenism. Looks is something to be cherrished in this game. A kill is not a kill if its not a kill in style. In the end people will choose for the leaders in this game and how they will manage their corporation/alliance. For the "younger" in our midst. Don't stare blindly to these great names and fine alliance they represent above, there are many leaders in this game that can be a blast to follow. RB |
Kaeten
Gallente
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:07:00 - [ 114]
BoB/RA/Goons Shortly after... AAA/MC Also from what I've hear dof d2 is VERY dissapointing.  |
Kaeten
Gallente
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.14 12:09:00 - [ 115]
Originally by: Alfred Winchester
Every attempt that any singular Coalition alliance has made to take our space has been stopped by FIX alone
Hope that was a joke. |
Scylla V
Gallente
R E D E M P T I O N
Black Star Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.15 14:37:00 - [ 116]
1. The Alliance with the most Titans
2. The Alliance with the 2nd most Titans
3. The Alliance with the 3rd most Titans |
Reprisa
Gallente
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North |
Posted - 2007.05.15 15:10:00 - [ 117]
FLA
ISS
Storm armada.
lol ;) love ya FLA |
Adrriano
Amarr
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2007.05.15 17:31:00 - [ 118]
thats an easy one
BoB
MC
RA_AA (yea, russians)
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Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.15 18:53:00 - [ 119]
BOB
MC
RA |
Glitch 10240
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
KIA Alliance |
Posted - 2007.05.15 19:15:00 - [ 120]
Bob (although i hate to admit is :/)
D2
RA (Dread killing kings :P) |
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