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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
Posted - 2007.04.22 00:15:00 - [1]
 

As we see various things change in EVE I believe one of the main problems to be the usage of multiple characters per account.

Now I am wondering how long EVE Online will last for or if it will be superseced by EVE 2 say. If the EVE Online in its current form changes over time there may not be a need for EVE 2.

If such changes are made then people should be made to only use one character per account. This would benefit many people such as alliances, the forums and CCP itself.

Think of it like this, less alt posters on the forums, less alt spies in alliances and if someone want an extra character then they have to pay for a new one thereby benefiting CCP and the users of EVE. Also of the benefit to CCP will be less macro users and isk farmers which may come about from such a change. This will lead to less people complaining about such things.

I think its only natural for one day that the future of EVE will only involve one character per account. I truly hope this comes about some day.

NumberFour
Posted - 2007.04.22 00:42:00 - [2]
 

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Less alt posters on the forums

What is really wrong with alt posters? Who really cares who says what? They are already restrited from the Alliance discussion Forums.


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Less alt spies in alliances

Do your homework before accepting someone into your corp and limit their rights until they have proven themselves.


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Also of the benefit to CCP will be less macro users and isk farmers which may come about from such a change.

Macros need to run all the time to be effective. Not much time to run your main. Most macros may be on single character accounts, who knows? Do you?


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This will lead to less people complaining about such things.

People will always find something to complain about.


Bad idea all around. Doesn't do much except limit peoples gameplay options. Many people do explore different aspects of the game at different times. Limiting people to one character per account may actually decrease subscriptions.




Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
Posted - 2007.04.22 01:52:00 - [3]
 

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What is really wrong with alt posters? Who really cares who says what? They are already restrited from the Alliance discussion Forums.


They are not restricted very well (look at the forums and see how well for example in CAOD they are policed). Its not the fact that no-one really cares what they say (although it seems like they do sometimes) its the fact that they waste space and time.

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Do your homework before accepting someone into your corp and limit their rights until they have proven themselves.


They can prove themselves, then steal everything you have still. Of course one character players can still do this too but would have to compromise a 1 character account to do so. Something I feel people would be less willing to do if they cannot hide that easily.

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Macros need to run all the time to be effective. Not much time to run your main. Most macros may be on single character accounts, who knows? Do you?


This is probably the case for many of them although it might make it harder for them to have say a hauler alt on the same account and would therefore need to buy another for example.

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People will always find something to complain about.


People always complain, fact of human nature :D However complaints against alts have gone on for quite some time and it is justified for the most part.


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Bad idea all around. Doesn't do much except limit peoples gameplay options. Many people do explore different aspects of the game at different times. Limiting people to one character per account may actually decrease subscriptions.






I don't think it limits anyones abilities really. I wonder what would have happened if eve had only been a one character account game in the begining. People get around these things and adapt. People restricted to one character would do just that. It may also have an effect of increasing subscriptions. Plus it might also enable CCP to fund for money into the game itself. I would say personally that eve would be a more interesting experience without alts.

Emylissan
Gallente
Liberal German Wing
Liberal Alliance
Posted - 2007.04.22 02:16:00 - [4]
 

...and when the mankind had not discovered the mysterie of fire we would still live in caves...



...and accepting it.


Emiko Luan
Gallente
Posted - 2007.04.22 02:17:00 - [5]
 

I personally don't like the idea of 1 person with 2+ characters, but they paid for the accounts, so they get what they paid for.

Sieges
Posted - 2007.04.22 04:34:00 - [6]
 

Given the number of "oops, sorry that was my alt" posts, it seems like it would be fairly easy to figure out who is who Laughing

Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.04.22 10:41:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Rod Blaine on 22/04/2007 10:38:24
Alts *do* break this game at a fundamental level and stand in the way of many a great change.

However, spying is not one of those broken things imo. Alts stand in the way of decent criminality systems, standing systems, economic warfare systems, etc. That's why imo they need to go.

But for restricting people to a single (char per) account there is no longer time. Too many have more then one developed character on the same account now. It should have been done from the start.


Nebulous
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.04.22 12:10:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Terranid Meester
As we see various things change in EVE I believe one of the main problems to be the usage of multiple characters per account.

Now I am wondering how long EVE Online will last for or if it will be superseced by EVE 2 say. If the EVE Online in its current form changes over time there may not be a need for EVE 2.

If such changes are made then people should be made to only use one character per account. This would benefit many people such as alliances, the forums and CCP itself.

Think of it like this, less alt posters on the forums, less alt spies in alliances and if someone want an extra character then they have to pay for a new one thereby benefiting CCP and the users of EVE. Also of the benefit to CCP will be less macro users and isk farmers which may come about from such a change. This will lead to less people complaining about such things.

I think its only natural for one day that the future of EVE will only involve one character per account. I truly hope this comes about some day.


I see your point mate, I hate spies with a passion, but I think its safe to say that most spies are actually on another account anyway, plus its also making it a case of you can have an alt as long as you pay for the privelidge, which is wrong imo.

Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
Posted - 2007.04.22 12:23:00 - [9]
 

1. I really dont think there will be an eve 2.0, because CCP's development scheme is so different from that of other MMO devs. Specifically, instead of releasing expansion packs and stuff you have to pay for, they just give it to everyone who subscribes. Indeed, you could probably say that Eve 2.0 will be the patch where they add station walking and those souped up graphics and all that.

2. 1 char per account wont do anything except nerf people who try to play 'by the rules'. It seems everyone these days has multiple accounts, hell I know a couple of guys who have over 5 of them. Even many 'average' players keep a NPC corp hauler alt account or some such, which they could then use for the forum trollination, spying, and all the other bad stuff you mention.

Artu Stargazer
Posted - 2007.04.23 01:50:00 - [10]
 

And don't forget all the Achura research alts like me. 6 free R&D slots. Combine that with noobs who have no idea how ME works and you get small ammo BPOs with 500 ME on them. . . And 20 day lab queues.

But I wouldn't pay for a research alt, getting my main Advanced Lab Ops would be cheaper.

Though I must say that the fellow talking about alts interfering with criminality and economic warfare systems is correct. . .

Though it is far too late to make all accounts single character.

Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
Posted - 2007.04.23 03:52:00 - [11]
 

<< This char is an alt, but it doesnt change much.

I run a corporation using all 6 of my characters, one is CEO and combat, one is logistics and mining, the other 4 are manufacturers. Obviously I'm limited in what I can do in a one-man corporation, so when the time is right I'll completely stop training on my mains in favour of more AFK income on my alts such as acumulating RP's, datacores and the like in addition to running manufacturing. This may seem unfair,, but if you look at it like this, on the one account I'd have a combat pilot, a mining/logistics char and an indy char.

So where's my point? Consider this. I have a combat character. Initial skills are the difference between a fortnights training and a day's training. I decide I want to see what indy is like instead of combat. I *dont* want to have to suspend my gameplan for a fortnight while i try something i may not like. I *cant* do this without multiple characters.

Most MMO's have multiple characters to allow people to experiment in game styles that are different from their norm. This increases playability and retention of players.

While *some* arguments for single players are justifiable, scammers, farmers etc (heck, I feel I'm farming in a way, but my training time paid by my subs is going towards developing the skills in those characters to perform their tasks), it's not good business sense to restrict players to one choice they have to live with forevermore until they either
A) Essentially restart their subscription and throw away everything they've paid for
or
B) pay a second subscription fee.

Usually people will go for
C) Play another game.

Arondos
Minmatar
Old Timers Guild
Posted - 2007.04.23 04:46:00 - [12]
 

A drawback to one character per account

Take something like this hypothetical situation. You've could have a corp of fairly new one of them gets tupid and ticks someone off. OR someone just looking to pick a a fight finds them. Theyget war dec'd by someone who far outclasses them. Options?

With only one character. Try to play and get blown up, or get locked down in a station and not be able to play, get frustrated and probably find another game to play.

If they have a second character available. They can log onto it and play.

It keeps a paying customer paying. I doubt very much you will ever see this idea implemented.


 

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