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DrRockIT
Caldari
Evoke.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.04.22 13:58:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


This man speaks out exactly what i feel about us leaving D2.

All people flaming and whining about us, get ur gangs together and try to kill us, were around EC- atm.

Turkantho
Caldari
AMT.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.04.22 14:19:00 - [62]
 

OP has been updated

Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.04.22 15:00:00 - [63]
 

I hope when the dust settles you will let us camp EC the odd time... for the memories

have fun with that OP ec was always a good hotbed of acitvity

<3

FuzzBuzz
Caldari
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2007.04.22 15:09:00 - [64]
 

ah, they goes the camping of ec, unless you want to go ahead to head with carriers and titans on the gate (yes they dded the gate). i think i got killed 2 hours after your post on the forum that you was leaving. we didnt engage 1st btw. now if you want to reinburse my crow and manticore please feel free to do so, 50m should do it :D

Daxit
Caldari
SiN. Corp
Daisho Syndicate
Posted - 2007.04.22 16:07:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Verite Rendition
Edited by: Verite Rendition on 22/04/2007 00:53:52
You guys have a lot of nerve.

First you leave D2 and shoot at us without warning
Then you claim it was a standings error and will be fixed
Now you're trying to gank all the residents of the North 24 hours later

We've been friends with you guys for over 2 years now and while AUS/CORE isn't a powerhouse we've never hesitated to help G or D2 out. And you thank us for this by turning your backs without warning?

With friends like you, who needs BoB?
I hope you get everything you deserve
<Notice: I am not a diplomat, I'm a megalomaniac, a small but important difference>


Why is it always someone from AUS that cries like a girl?

nico wurz250
Caldari
The X-Trading Company
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.04.22 16:18:00 - [66]
 

OMG Chokepoint for the win!!

My personaly new name for this system is now "The EvE-Fun Points"

I will make a visit for sure.

GL m8

Zimi Vlasic
Amarr
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.04.22 16:46:00 - [67]
 

Good luck and have fun, mateys

Zimi Vlasic
Amarr
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.04.22 16:49:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Daxit
Originally by: Verite Rendition
Edited by: Verite Rendition on 22/04/2007 00:53:52
You guys have a lot of nerve.

First you leave D2 and shoot at us without warning
Then you claim it was a standings error and will be fixed
Now you're trying to gank all the residents of the North 24 hours later

We've been friends with you guys for over 2 years now and while AUS/CORE isn't a powerhouse we've never hesitated to help G or D2 out. And you thank us for this by turning your backs without warning?

With friends like you, who needs BoB?
I hope you get everything you deserve
<Notice: I am not a diplomat, I'm a megalomaniac, a small but important difference>


Why is it always someone from AUS that cries like a girl?

It's usually just verite crying like a girl Surprised

He just wants to use his veldnought in peace!

Nez Sewers
Amarr
Black Toilet.
Posted - 2007.04.22 17:33:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


While I tend to agree that POS wars need serious overhaul, I'd like to stress something to collective ex-D2 nodding how POS wars suck.

How exactly did D2 try to take over fountain? Was it pos destruction or just failed pos spam campaign? From what I heard, it was just pos spam while bobbits mostly resorted to pos destruction. At this point, I'd say that it's just weak excuse to avoid facing true test of capabilities. First sight of challenge knocking on the doors, split.

I hope mindless racking of killmails will keep your memberbase entertained for long time. Too bad bobbits aren't posting, I bet there would be 10 pages of: FAILED already(not that I agree with that). But imo it's really weak show, evoke. Good luck with your alliance.

Elmer Phud
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.04.22 17:35:00 - [70]
 

*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

Turkantho
Caldari
AMT.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.04.22 17:36:00 - [71]
 

ok how exactly is 4 or 5 large pos by d2 pos spam if bob counters with 15+ large pos in y-2 or however that system was called ?

Aramark
Amarr
Omega Enterprises
0mega Factor
Posted - 2007.04.22 18:11:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Elmer Phud
*snip*



could we please post with our mains. i don't understand what people are afraid of with a internet game. sack up or go play WoW

Zimi Vlasic
Amarr
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.04.22 18:14:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Nez Sewers
Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


While I tend to agree that POS wars need serious overhaul, I'd like to stress something to collective ex-D2 nodding how POS wars suck.

How exactly did D2 try to take over fountain? Was it pos destruction or just failed pos spam campaign? From what I heard, it was just pos spam while bobbits mostly resorted to pos destruction. At this point, I'd say that it's just weak excuse to avoid facing true test of capabilities. First sight of challenge knocking on the doors, split.

I hope mindless racking of killmails will keep your memberbase entertained for long time. Too bad bobbits aren't posting, I bet there would be 10 pages of: FAILED already(not that I agree with that). But imo it's really weak show, evoke. Good luck with your alliance.

Bob wouldn't dream of ever spamming POSes.

(LOL)

Sey'ada
Amarr
Evoke.
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2007.04.22 18:46:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Sey''ada on 22/04/2007 18:43:21
Originally by: Aramark
Originally by: Elmer Phud
*snip*


could we please post with our mains. i don't understand what people are afraid of with a internet game. sack up or go play WoW


Yeah, this is an online-game, its 100% anonyme already, i wonder why ppl still hide behind altsRolling Eyes

Major Stormer
Caldari
MEK Enterprises
Posted - 2007.04.22 18:59:00 - [75]
 

Interesting policy with the station. may I ask, while the station is open to all, do you operate NBSI or NRDS in the aera?

Karai Kamasu
Gallente
Kinetic Vector
Ka-Tet
Posted - 2007.04.22 19:06:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Major Stormer
Interesting policy with the station. may I ask, while the station is open to all, do you operate NBSI or NRDS in the aera?


If you have not read the fine print already, the station is open to all those that make it past the gatecamp, obviously.

Goberth Ludwig
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.04.22 19:07:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.

There is not a problem with "game mechanics" here the problem is "game mechanics when fighting people that are challenge" and how much it sucks to have to actually work hard for your victories. The solution? Break off and go camp EC- !

I am not saying it wasnt the best thing to do for then and their members but ffs have the decency to admit the truth instead of the emo crap "boo-ooh we are such cool pvpers but the game mechanics just wont let us be our own way"

Mad

- Gob

Naxxiz
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
Posted - 2007.04.22 19:09:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Turkantho
ok how exactly is 4 or 5 large pos by d2 pos spam if bob counters with 15+ large pos in y-2 or however that system was called ?


During the Goonswarm vs D2 war in cloud rings, didn't you guy spam towers onto 41 of the 80 moons?

Ramireza
Caldari
Evoke.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.04.22 19:25:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Naxxiz
Originally by: Turkantho
ok how exactly is 4 or 5 large pos by d2 pos spam if bob counters with 15+ large pos in y-2 or however that system was called ?


During the Goonswarm vs D2 war in cloud rings, didn't you guy spam towers onto 41 of the 80 moons?



Not ASW, D2 spamed xzh with poses. But i dont blame them for this. CCP give us this "wonderfull" sov. system.

@Gob

We (ASW) didnt liked the game mechanics in the TCF/FE campaingn and we dont like it now. NOONE of us had fun these days. It was laggy and boring, same as ALL other bigger campaigns since 1,5 years now. And NOW we said "stop, thats it" and left D2 (aka epic alliance warfare). Believe it or not Smile

Rancid Beef
Caldari
InQuest Ascension
R i s e
Posted - 2007.04.22 21:14:00 - [80]
 

Being a pirate fan, I give 2 thumbs up to the name "Tortuga!" :)

Promon Delnai
Caldari
Contempt.
Posted - 2007.04.22 21:31:00 - [81]
 

Promon Delnai and Associates thoroughly endorses Evokes product or service.

See you in Venal Very Happy

pershphanie
Gallente
Black Core Federation
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2007.04.22 21:31:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: pershphanie on 22/04/2007 21:30:10
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.




Actually that's completly false. They put up just enough POS to get our attention. I think it was 3 of them. That's hardly POS spamming. Then we had a series of great fleet fights. They didn't seem that concerned with our POS's. They seemed much more interested in fighting. They did not kick F-E alliance out of anywhere either. We ended up killing all the POS's. Also it was G not D2.


They just want to do something different. TBH it's none of anyone's business why. They don't need a reason or rationalization for it. It's a game. They felt like playing it in another way.

.. Or maybe they are being paid by bob!

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2007.04.22 21:41:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Turkantho


update
Today the Outpost in Ec-P8R was taken over by Evoke, this is a mutual agreement of Dusk and Dawn and Evoke.




Good luck with that heap of scrap. Its brought nothing but misery to each successive owner.


Fahad
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.04.22 21:57:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


Ditto.. that sums it up for all the peeps that've been whining about being shot.


good luck Evoke Cool

Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.04.22 22:21:00 - [85]
 

Congrats on the new alliance guys :) im sure your gonna be having lots of fun !

<3

Goberth Ludwig
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.04.22 22:24:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: pershphanie
Edited by: pershphanie on 22/04/2007 21:30:10
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.




Actually that's completly false. They put up just enough POS to get our attention. I think it was 3 of them. That's hardly POS spamming. Then we had a series of great fleet fights. They didn't seem that concerned with our POS's. They seemed much more interested in fighting. They did not kick F-E alliance out of anywhere either. We ended up killing all the POS's. Also it was G not D2.


You missed my point. I am sure MC/YW/BOB arent after just the poses either and will engage in a fight just as much.

My point is there was no sudden change in the game mechanics of POSes to blame the split entirely on that.

@ Rami: I know what you mean, still due to the timing of this decision its hard to believe the war you were facing had nothing to do with it m8

- Gob

Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
shadow and cloaking
Yggdrasill.
Posted - 2007.04.22 22:37:00 - [87]
 

Good luck Evoke, have fun roaming in supercap... :)

Darknesss
Gallente
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2007.04.22 23:49:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Darknesss
These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.

To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.


This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.

There is not a problem with "game mechanics" here the problem is "game mechanics when fighting people that are challenge" and how much it sucks to have to actually work hard for your victories. The solution? Break off and go camp EC- !

I am not saying it wasnt the best thing to do for then and their members but ffs have the decency to admit the truth instead of the emo crap "boo-ooh we are such cool pvpers but the game mechanics just wont let us be our own way"

Mad

- Gob



There is very much a problem, for POS wars you need to suffer immense boredom, you need to set alarm clocks, you need to drag the morale, the activity and your members through the mud in order to achieve success. That is not what eve should be about, conquering space should be full of dramatic battles and enjoyment for the members. Determination SHOULD be required, but not to a point where your corporation and alliance wants to quit.

There is a large difference between making effort and suffering.


Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2007.04.23 00:05:00 - [89]
 

Whats the point of the EC move exactly?

GL Mr Turkey!

Ramireza
Caldari
Evoke.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2007.04.23 00:29:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Ramireza on 23/04/2007 00:25:47
Originally by: Darko1107
Whats the point of the EC move exactly?




Nobody realy needs this outpost, so we give it to all the EC/Pure Blind peeps.
Since nearly 2,5 year now we have Industrial Poses in EC, so why not claim the system and opens the Outpost for all?


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