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THEDON1
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:08:00 - [541]
 

Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?

Toppar Wear
Amarr
The Order of Odin
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:08:00 - [542]
 

Edited by: Toppar Wear on 29/03/2007 22:05:10
Originally by: Thodoros

Lets hope we CCP will short themselves out cause the game is not fun anymore.
Instead of voice chat and pretty graphics i prefer to be able to play my favorite game.
.


Yeah, stop making the grafic better.. People will just turn if off anyways.. It just creates more lag.. lol Laughing... And using ccp voice coms, that another good laughf..

"Please wait 1 min and 34 sec. to talk"..

Anyways GF to all parts, it was fun even though i never got closer then w-k... I simply couldn´t jump, it also took 1-2 hours just for 2 jumps...

Mission acompliced, BOB Cap Pos down and all that.. But yes it was a heavy price, but i believe it paid off Smile

Ty'derian
Minmatar
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:10:00 - [543]
 

Originally by: Troubadour
Edited by: Troubadour on 29/03/2007 21:55:16

It's a pyrrhic victory for the coalition at best. They may not take as much damage ISK-wise as BoB and the allies during this battle, but they aren't in a position to replace those losses as quick nor do they have as much in reserve as BoB and friends.

Losing a titan hurts for bob, but not at much as losing 25+ dreads/carriers for the coalition.

Also, at about 3 bil to buy and fit a dread, losing 25 of them is 75bil, as much as the cost of a titan.


lol... you realy trie to see an little win in that what you done? sorry.. my friend : ) you have total lost : )

Frygok
Minmatar
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:10:00 - [544]
 

Originally by: THEDON1
Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?


Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point.

I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. ugh

/sigh at CCP

Admentus Cor'vion
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:11:00 - [545]
 

Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: THEDON1
Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?


Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point.

I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. ugh

/sigh at CCP


To get a lot of kills?

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:11:00 - [546]
 

Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: THEDON1
Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?


Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point.

I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. ugh

/sigh at CCP


because they can mobilize a fleet of that size?

If you had a POS with a capital build array, didnt matter if it had a cap building in there, wouldnt you do the same?

I know I would

Lasakywa
Caldari
Section XIII
Cursed Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:11:00 - [547]
 

It seems that a second titan (not the baby titan) has been destroyed.

Can someone confirm that ?

Serapis Aote
Minmatar
TBC
VENOM Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:12:00 - [548]
 

Originally by: dirtystockbird


If Bob could have locked your dreads in time without sitting on the locking locking locking screen forever all of the coalition dreads would have surely died. The coalition had to lock only 1 target, so once it aquired the lock and started firing it was end game. Bob had to lock, wait, fire, wait, watch target die, lock another target, wait, try to fire again, wait etc.



WTS bugged dread that only locks 1 target at a time...any buyers.

I call BS on BOB only locking 1 dread at a time, waiting for that dread to die before trying to lock another.

Mangus Thermopyle
Caldari
Divine Retribution
Daisho Syndicate
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:12:00 - [549]
 

If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.

KeyuserII
Caldari
Dark Angel Battalion
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:13:00 - [550]
 

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dirtystockbird
Gallente
Armoured Assassins
The Red Skull
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:13:00 - [551]
 

Originally by: Serapis Aote
Originally by: dirtystockbird


If Bob could have locked your dreads in time without sitting on the locking locking locking screen forever all of the coalition dreads would have surely died. The coalition had to lock only 1 target, so once it aquired the lock and started firing it was end game. Bob had to lock, wait, fire, wait, watch target die, lock another target, wait, try to fire again, wait etc.



WTS bugged dread that only locks 1 target at a time...any buyers.

I call BS on BOB only locking 1 dread at a time, waiting for that dread to die before trying to lock another.


You still have to wait for the modules to activate which is what I was trying to say, but yes, that was not very clear. Point still remains though, and you know the point is valid.

Fuujin
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:14:00 - [552]
 

Edited by: Fuujin on 29/03/2007 22:10:18
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


I think we already established isk isn't the victory point in this fight.

Haulerinn
Minmatar
Searing Arrows
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:14:00 - [553]
 

Think of what 1300 people could have npced for instead of wasting there evening sitting stuck jumping in.

Kozak
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:14:00 - [554]
 

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


We're not BOB, we dont fit faction on our dreads, were told not to. Max is 300 mill per ship Total, of what survived, may get 100 mill per dread worth of stuff.

Jinnigan
Minmatar
Poon Fleet
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:14:00 - [555]
 

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.

You'd think that someone from LV would understand the intangible benefits of a capital shipyard loss.

Adirawin
Gallente
Happy Hopping Bunny Squad
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:15:00 - [556]
 

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


You're using "ifs" then saying it's "clear"?

Zhaine
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:15:00 - [557]
 

Originally by: Haulerinn
Think of what 1300 people could have npced for instead of wasting there evening sitting stuck jumping in.


qft

Frygok
Minmatar
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:15:00 - [558]
 

Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: THEDON1
Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?


Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point.

I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. ugh

/sigh at CCP


To get a lot of kills?


Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads.

That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it.

Draxxxion
Minmatar
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:16:00 - [559]
 

Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: THEDON1
Edited by: THEDON1 on 29/03/2007 22:04:49
how do u know its the pos with a titan and not a fake cap pos ?


Why would BOB and allies mobilize such massive defending fleets, if it was just a decoy? Using the whole what if is beside the point.

I would have said good fight tonight, but I dunno if my ship is still trying to warp into a system(it has been for several hours), or I am podded back to a station. ugh

/sigh at CCP



To get a ton of kills while you guys shoot a POS,a pos I might add that only the coalition believes anything was in....since your propoganda guys started saying it had a Titan in it...

Fubear
Gallente
Vogon Heavy Industries
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:16:00 - [560]
 

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


This battle was not about ISK, whats your point?

Ruato
Gallente
Gurgleblaster Industries
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:16:00 - [561]
 

So.. Summary basically is: BoB+allies couldnt defend their installation, even if they brought in everything they got.

My point is not to smack BoB+allies, point is that now its proven BoB can be defeated (its gonna cost, but i doubt that came as a surprise to anyone)

If i was in BoB leadership, i would find that kinda worrying.

The Beatnuts
Minmatar
UA Industry
Red Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:16:00 - [562]
 

Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


It's not the ISK that matters at this point, it's the tactical advantage a third titan brings you, a last and deadly doomsday making the three DD barely untankable for a BS.

Jump bridge, gang bonuses and doomsday : totaly priceless my friend, priceless.

Belial02
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:17:00 - [563]
 

Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
The biggest loser in this battle was CCP and its attempts to bring us fleet battles. I hope they rethink what they have done with gang code and jump ins, the rediculous lag on jump in, the fact some people are still loading a system right now, that they were podded in.


Agreed. Either make fleet battles possible or change the system so that its not necessary. Its an emergency.

KeyuserII
Caldari
Dark Angel Battalion
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:17:00 - [564]
 

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Enthes goldhart
Gallente
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:18:00 - [565]
 

black screen of death ftl..... Confused

SigmaPi
Gallente
Valkyr Industries
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:18:00 - [566]
 

I've been stuck with a black jump screen for over 2 hours now...

CCP needs to fix something, 'cause I just wasted prety much 3 days of my life waiting for an epic fight that i never got to enjoy.

/Siggy

Zhaine
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:18:00 - [567]
 

Originally by: Frygok


Yes, but if the Coalition is certain that they have killed of a titan, they won't believe a word BOB says about it being a decoy(and frankly, neither would I), so for them it will still be a morale victory. And morale victories are far more important than a number of dreads.

That's why the speculation about the titan, in essence is irrelevant. No one from the coalition will believe if BOB stated that there were no titan in it.


lol, but then surely it would be BoB's moral victory too. So no one would have won.

But really you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a Titan there or not, which is just plainly silly to anyone with sense.

Esurnir
Amarr
Bears Inc
FREGE Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:18:00 - [568]
 

I logged off now, at least I'm alive, but I didn't saw a single bob O____o. I even lagged out at what was supposed a camped stargate but I supposed that my malediction wasnt called primary so I escaped. I can't play I will generate less lag offline.

and in other news :
Quote:
[21:37:35] Frobbe > Toppar Wear > ja:[21:26:16] DigitalCommunist> tbh rkk directors just cried on ts<br><br><DigitalCommunist> they're in tears man
*friendly pat on the shoulder*

Pilk
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:20:00 - [569]
 

Originally by: Kozak
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
If we should compare ISK lost, you also need to consider the fitting and who gets the loot after the fight.

If 50 capital ships goes down, and they each have 500mil of equippment, and 50% of that equipment survived, thats 25B lost for one side and 12.5B gained for the side that looted the wrecks.

I think its pretty clear by now who lost most ISK.


We're not BOB, we dont fit faction on our dreads, were told not to. Max is 300 mill per ship Total, of what survived, may get 100 mill per dread worth of stuff.

Three capital guns/launchers (four for a Nag): 150m (200m)
Siege module: 50m
Capital repper x2 (one booster on a Phoenix): 100m (50m)

That's 300m before you add on hardeners, cap chargers, rigs, etc., etc.

If you can fit a dread (especially a Nag, which I believe is what most of -A- flies) competently for just 300m, you win Eve.

--P

Bon Ali
Caldari
Bon's Ecological Recycling
Posted - 2007.03.29 22:20:00 - [570]
 

For all of those asking how the coalition knew what was in the array, how about the big ****ing timer, you morons?Rolling Eyes


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