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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 15:51:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri

I assume you are talking about Revan. It seems to me that her erratic and amusing involvement in this thread is the only reason SF was mentioned at all. You might want to consider that her relationship with your organization means that people associate you with her antics before trying to suggest something like the above.


I am talking about the first person to mention the Star Fraction on this thread.

If you are seriously trying to say that the remarks or behaviour of individuals associated with an organisation even though they not be members of the given organisation, and however close or loose the link may be, are now to be regarded as counting in any assessment or discussion of the organisation in question then I would be a little surprised.

You should consider very carefully indeed the implications of such a view if it were to be applied evenly and across the political spectrum.

The Cosmopolite

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:03:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 16:03:24
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri

I assume you are talking about Revan. It seems to me that her erratic and amusing involvement in this thread is the only reason SF was mentioned at all. You might want to consider that her relationship with your organization means that people associate you with her antics before trying to suggest something like the above.


I am talking about the first person to mention the Star Fraction on this thread.


Revan makes a gloating comment about the way things are going, and later even attempts to speak for SF, and you expect that not to drag the subject of SF involvement in QR up? Really? You seriously overestimate what we think of you if you think that your organization would have been mentioned without that heretic's obviously uninformed comments from the sidelines that effectively required the mention of your involvement as an illustration of exactly how clueless Revan's commentary was.

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If you are seriously trying to say that the remarks or behaviour of individuals associated with an organisation even though they not be members of the given organisation, and however close or loose the link may be, are now to be regarded as counting in any assessment or discussion of the organisation in question then I would be a little surprised.



When your allies try to speak for you, people listen. When they prove blatantly ignorant of their friend's actions, their friend's actions become a topic of discussion. Trying to suggest that we wanted your presence in this thread only is feasible if you utterly ignore the actions of your supposed ally.

Revan has a track record of hurting her allies more than her enemies, I suggest you remember that.

Popsikle
Minmatar
Caffeine Commodities Company
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:11:00 - [93]
 

Enough with the bickering that belongs in some other thread.

Brother Chokeds words need to be heard.

Wren
Minmatar
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:13:00 - [94]
 

Agreed. The distinct lack of support from Minmatar companies in the face of such obvious 'Amarrian Reclaimation' is disturbing.

If you sit back and do nothing, you just might find golden ships on your stations tomorrow.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:16:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Wren
Agreed. The distinct lack of support from Minmatar companies in the face of such obvious 'Amarrian Reclaimation' is disturbing.

If you sit back and do nothing, you just might find golden ships on your stations tomorrow.


You insult the Republic.

You put a bounty on the head of the Republic's leader.

You provide a resting place for the body of a thief and traitor.

You ally yourselves with pirates and anarchists.

And then you have the gall to complain that Minmatars aren't defending you?

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:18:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 16:15:38

Despite the fear mongering of the Terrorists, the only people who have any reason to fear Reclamation are those who have made the moronic decision to declare war on Amarr or commit acts of war against God's Empire.

They are merely receiving the just penalty for their decision to attack Amarr, had they not made that choice they would not be targeted.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:21:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri

Revan makes a gloating comment about the way things are going, and even attempts to speak for SF, and you expect that not to drag the subject of SF involvement in QR up?



Re-examine the chronology of the thread. What you characterise as Revan 'speak[ing] for SF' comes after the first mention of the Star Fraction on this thread by another individual.

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When your allies try to speak for you, people listen. When they prove blatantly ignorant of their friend's actions, their friend's actions become a topic of discussion. Trying to suggest that we wanted your presence in this thread only is feasible if you utterly ignore the actions of your supposed ally.



Incorrect, I repeat, the first explicit mention of the Star Fraction was by someone else and preceded those remarks made by Lady Revan which could be interpreted as a commentary on the disposition of Star Fraction forces.

Furthermore, the same individual has repeatedly solicited further comment from the Star Fraction in this thread.

Whatever the case, your fellow paramilitaries sought to conjure with our name, garner our comments and put forth half-baked interpretations of our ideology. It is sheerest hypocrisy, given this, for another Amarr Empire loyalist to cavil at our presence in this thread and it is utter humbug for that one to condemn us for hypocrisy when he displays his own so flagrantly.

The Cosmopolite

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:23:00 - [98]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/03/2007 16:22:19
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/03/2007 16:20:02
Originally by: The Cosmopolite


Furthermore, the same individual has repeatedly solicited further comment from the Star Fraction in this thread.



Not so much since you summoned up the courage to answer the question (which was designed to get the discussion back on track) rather than go off on a tangent.

Karol Kei
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:31:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Karol Kei on 14/03/2007 16:27:38
Our alliance is mentioned and then several statements which clearly need correcting are spoken. Is this not dragging Star Fraction into the thread Admiral? It took much less to drag your people to talk about Star Fraction in this thread, like you admit.

Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri

Revan makes a gloating comment about the way things are going, and later even attempts to speak for SF, and you expect that not to drag the subject of SF involvement in QR up? Really?



Use more drugs. You clearly need them, Old Man.

I find accusations that we hijacked this thread amusing and a clear proof that amarrian education system brings forth people with no reading comprehension skills. The time line in this thread is clear, and our participation apart from where clearly challenged to answer very limited. You Admiral, and your religious lunatics are the driving force in this sorry excuse of communications while we have made one clarification and defended ourselves where we have been forced to do so.

Take your recent victory and enjoy it, and by all means keep repeating how insignificant we are despite all the attention you are directing towards us all the time in this thread and others. And don't bother checking the date on your clones, I am sure they are fine.

Wren
Minmatar
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:37:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Wren
Agreed. The distinct lack of support from Minmatar companies in the face of such obvious 'Amarrian Reclaimation' is disturbing.

If you sit back and do nothing, you just might find golden ships on your stations tomorrow.


You insult the Republic.

You put a bounty on the head of the Republic's leader.

You provide a resting place for the body of a thief and traitor.

You ally yourselves with pirates and anarchists.

And then you have the gall to complain that Minmatars aren't defending you?


Ffft, we are still family, Slaver! Bonds which are not based on who is stronger and who is weaker but by blood and spirit.

Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleet Yards
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 16:51:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Wren

Ffft, we are still family, Slaver! Bonds which are not based on who is stronger and who is weaker but by blood and spirit.


That is probably why they rallied to help you by the dozen and you didn't have to beg pirates and anarchists to help you.


Wren
Minmatar
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:05:00 - [102]
 

We didn't beg anyone.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:08:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake

Not so much since you summoned up the courage to answer the question (which was designed to get the discussion back on track) rather than go off on a tangent.


I answered it as soon as I read it.

As for questioning my courage, or that of any other Freecaptain, on the basis of the time elapsed between question and response on GalNet...

Beneath contempt.


That to the side, I wish to pay tribute to the fighters of the Ushra'Khan and the others of the Defiance Operations allied forces. All the warriors capsuleers, crew and fighter-pilots displayed honour and courage in the face of the enemy.

The fight for freedom will go on for so long as but one individual is free in mind, even if not in body. That is the great strength of those who love liberty and the unending nightmare of those who worship power, in whatever guise it may be.

The Cosmopolite

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:09:00 - [104]
 

Your Free Captains lack discipline and self control, Mr Cosmopolite. The only context in which Star Fraction was initially mentioned was in response to Revan's apparent glee at the slaughter taking place in QR. Yes, this raised some eyebrows and was worthy of comment, given Revan's latest object of lust.

The rest is a lot of backpedalling and downplaying about whether or not it means anything that Revan is happy her lover's pilots were defeated in the CVA offensive. Essentially a hijack of a hijack as far as this discussion's original intent. I fail to see the hypocrisy of CVA pilots in all of this.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:10:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Wren
We didn't beg anyone.


Absolutely correct.

We would not have aided cravens who mewled and cried for help on bended knee and nor did we.

The Cosmopolite

Vlad Konstantinov
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:23:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: The Cosmopolite
We would not have aided cravens who mewled and cried for help on bended knee and nor did we.


That's true. You just added more biomass to the processing plant.

Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:49:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Wren
The distinct lack of support from Minmatar companies in the face of such obvious 'Amarrian Reclaimation' is disturbing.

Wren, the topic was almost immediately hijacked by the Amarr egoists, Blooder and Loyalist. Their propaganda machine is as efficient as their fleet. Their imperialism intends to reclaim our minds as much as space. Hence, their boring blathering-on all over the IGB. It is no accident that almost all threads referring to Matari matters is hijacked by them.

I congratulate any Matari free-corp that has actually made it this far into the thread.

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:56:00 - [108]
 

If you truly think that the reason the Republican forces did not come to your aid was because of the course this thread has taken, you are truly blind.

The reason the Republic does not listen to warmongering rallying cries such as this one, is quite simply because you are fighting a war they do not support and have no interest in dealing with. If they support you, they declare war on Amarr. Take the fact that the Admiralty of the Republic rightly believes that the republic would not survive such a war combined with the incredible disrespect the U'K and its allies have shown the rebellion's leadership and you get a situation where it is decidedly against the interests of any republic loyalists to become involved.


Wren
Minmatar
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 17:59:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
If you truly think that the reason the Republican forces did not come to your aid was because of the course this thread has taken, you are truly blind.

The reason the Republic does not listen to warmongering rallying cries such as this one, is quite simply because you are fighting a war they do not support and have no interest in dealing with. If they support you, they declare war on Amarr. Take the fact that the Admiralty of the Republic rightly believes that the republic would not survive such a war combined with the incredible disrespect the U'K and its allies have shown the rebellion's leadership and you get a situation where it is decidedly against the interests of any republic loyalists to become involved.




Yes, because everyone knows that CVA, PIE, VV and whoever else flies with you is backed fully by the Amarrian Empire. Yep.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.03.14 18:04:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Vlad Konstantinov

You just added more biomass to the processing plant.


If you want to be petty in victory, that's fine. It does seem to be the measure of Amarrian loyalist paramilitarism. I suppose this is unsurprising given that all the thugs, louts and renegades who could not even promote an appointment to official service in the name of the Empire are gathered together in its ranks.

I certainly laugh at the complaint that Star Fraction pilots are ill-disciplined on GalNet when such graceless remarks as yours are spouted out.

We gave the strength of our arms to fellow warriors who love liberty and fought alongside them against those who hate liberty and cannot exist without the rancid milk of tyranny's paps dribbling down their gullets. Together we fought and even though we did not win this battle, the wider struggle will continue.

In terms of the Battle for Karishal's Defiance, I believe ample has been said with respect to the involvement of the Star Fraction. I anticipate the possibility of further pettiness from Amarrian paramilitary quarters but I personally will not be responding.

I am in fact genuinely interested in hearing any views that other members of the Defiance allies may wish to add to this thread to answer the rather pessimistic lament of the first speaker in this channel.

The Cosmopolite

Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 18:16:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Wren
[Yes, because everyone knows that CVA, PIE, VV and whoever else flies with you is backed fully by the Amarrian Empire. Yep.


We serve the Empire. Should our actions not meet approval, we will be informed and take appropriate steps.

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.03.14 18:39:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/03/2007 18:36:20
Originally by: Wren
Yes, because everyone knows that CVA, PIE, VV and whoever else flies with you is backed fully by the Amarrian Empire. Yep.


The amusing thing is that your statement is fairly close to the truth, despite your obvious sarcasm.

There are no conflicts between the Empire and the pod pilot organisations you named who are loyal to it, and we have a long history of productive cooperation with the Empire that has proven quite successful over the years.

Yet, this being said, it is not the Amarrians who were the ones calling for help from home, so even if we actually had a strained relationship with the Empire your comment would be utterly irrelevant.

You terrorists started a war that no sane person wants. You also have actively insulted the republic's leadership on a nearly weekly basis over the last three years, and are an organisation that has its roots in a seccessionist movement against the republic.

I dont see how you could possibly believe that the republic has any obligations to commit suicide to save ungrateful wretches such as yourself.

Wren
Minmatar
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.14 18:39:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Pezzle
Originally by: Wren
[Yes, because everyone knows that CVA, PIE, VV and whoever else flies with you is backed fully by the Amarrian Empire. Yep.


We serve the Empire. Should our actions not meet approval, we will be informed and take appropriate steps.



Whatever, Pezzle. I am not going to respond to any more barbs or jibes from you and your ilk. I also await any comments for which this topic was created.

Or if anyone wants to contact me on more private channels you know how to.

Karass Sayfo


ISD YARR
Interstellar Services Department
Posted - 2007.03.14 19:06:00 - [114]
 

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Lord Murkon
Amarr
SPCS
Posted - 2007.03.15 03:33:00 - [115]
 


With the victory of the CVA, PIE, VV and other Amarrian loyalist corporations over the terrorist outpost and the establishment of a new trade office at the aptly renamed "Karishal's Folly" the SPCS is pleased to announce the establishment of a slave market in the outpost itself. By request of Delictum and its loyal Ammatar leader Scagga the SPCS will move slaves down to the outpost to fill several buy orders now in place. It is our understanding these slaves are needed to help clean up the wreckage of the terrorist POS operations and other hazardous situations. The slaves the SPCS provides are developed, strong and obedient and ready to serve the Empire regardless of the risk. All slaves come with the assurance of quality care and humane treatment the SPCS is renown for.

Lord Murkon
SPCS Manager


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