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putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.03.02 09:02:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: putukas on 02/03/2007 08:59:25
Originally by: Ravelin Eb


No it does not. next question?


Actually i know only one good pvp corp in CA its INFOD i hope they are on same level of pvp they were when we fought against IMP together. But joining CA was wrong for them and most of them know it. Same thing happened to Light Darkness and hes corp

NeverL
Caldari
Enterprise Estonia
Session Changes
Posted - 2007.03.02 09:07:00 - [32]
 

i think bos is also decent.

putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.03.02 09:09:00 - [33]
 

ooh yeah they joined recently i belive

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2007.03.02 09:52:00 - [34]
 

Nice job CoW....carry on the ganks. Every ship lost by the enemy and every pilot podded out of thier Mining Foreman implants costs time and money to replace YARRRR!!

Laythun
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:03:00 - [35]
 

Is this even a battle report?

Or like just a list of kills and losses from your killboard?

hmmm.

fightnkill
Gallente
Phantom Ops Tactical Assault Force
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:06:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: fightnkill on 02/03/2007 10:03:01
Chest beating will only Aggro neutrals into this war Razz

btw, nice kill ratio.

Mariko San
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:08:00 - [37]
 

When I saw the title I thought this was going to be about you-know-whos latest revelations Sad

putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:26:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: putukas on 02/03/2007 10:23:33
Originally by: Laythun
Is this even a battle report?

Or like just a list of kills and losses from your killboard?

hmmm.


we had 2 bigger (about 40 hostiles against) fleetbattles and one smaller in this week so its result of them. You can surf our killboard for more detailed information.
Battlestory with fraps are comig soon

BlackFury
Gallente
Royal Norwegian Navy
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:48:00 - [39]
 

To put the flaming aside for a second..

Prison Break Inc (Formerly Alcatraz Inc) are long term enemies of -V- Alliance, as a result we recognise the the number of quality pvp'ers that made the move into Cult of War. They are not the largest outfit in the universe (a bit like us) but they use the numbers they do have effectivley.

A well organised smaller entity has the ability to take on a large alliance, they may not have the ability to bring it to it's knees but they have the ability to effect the moral and wealth of the individual pilots within. If the dip in moral takes hold and spreads then who knows what can happen.

I am in no way supporting Cult of War, we are allied with the coalition and engage and destroy CoW anywhere we encounter them, i am mearley speaking from a stand point of David fighting Goliath and supporting that fact that smaller enitities can make a difference in this war and shouldn't be dismissed out hand. I understand alliances would not admit being damaged by smaller incursions, nor would i expect them to, this is just how it is.

So to Cult of War I would say this, congratulations on your stats, we do know of some losses that haven't been posted on our last check of your killboard(i believe that is what Munchy was refering to in that private email you posted, however i wouldnt say the numbers were significant) but coming from the view point of a smaller entity in this war, they are still nice statistics.

I look forward further engagements with you, your next set of stats won't be as good. YARRRR!!Twisted Evil

Fly Safe.

BlackFury
CEO - Prison Break Inc

Plutoinum
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:52:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Plutoinum on 02/03/2007 10:50:12
Originally by: Simon Illian
The advantage of GW is it's an NPC sov.


Yes, I remember me saying that a lot of times to Imperium, when we were in Scalding Pass defending our outposts. But they didn't lissen. Laughing

Now this war is more and more about having fun for me and that it's against my old -V- enemies makes it really cool.

And well, what Putukas said, we were accused of always flying nano-ships. Yes, some did, since it's just the best guerilla setup out there, when a few people try to kill stuff being outnumbered and try to avoid losses.
But now we have been playing 4 evenings in a row with a completely different approach, no nanos, with like 20 bs in close-range and it has wtf-pwned so far and was great fun. After a battle that took several minutes two days ago the FC asked: 'Did anyone lose something ?' No answer. Another one 'Did we lose nothing ?' No answer. Laughing

So actually I don't care much, if we don't fit into the standard picture of standard alliance warfare around POSes with 80 tech-2 sniping BS and some support playing space chess, which can be fun though, or watching gate camps 13 hours non-stop.
Been there, done that, had enough of it after -V- died, because it felt like those nights I spend around poses and gate camps longer than I liked, to let my mates not sit their alone, have been a waste of time in the end.

Now I have fun again, even if our impact on the big picture is small, I don't see any end in sight yet where we won't have fun with our enemies anymore.

First I had a crisis: Not owning territory, nothing to defend, nothing to fight for, how can that be fun ? I 'hated' Goons, Imperium, TCF and all the others for what they did to -V- with their gang-bang. The only one I didn't hate was RA, because I've learned to respect them and they just got their revenge in the end.

But the longer I play in CoW the more relaxed I get and I think: 'Wtf, who cares about all that *snip* ? We can fly around and have really cool battles and can go on with it, how we like !'
We are almost untouchable, because with our way to play, even if 5.000 people want to see us dead, it can't destroy the playstyle that we enjoy.

So, well thanks for that to my alliance mates, especially the fleet commanders. I enjoy my new EVE life more and more every day. Hope that CoW slowly grows with like-minded people and then we can maybe do even more cool things in the future. Cool

P.S.: rabble, rabble ... sorry. Laughing

Please refrain from trying to evade the profanity-filter. -Ivan K

Fedaykinn
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:58:00 - [41]
 

Heh COW you know that out main bulk of pvpers are in detroit atm engaging LV. We were gonna actually stop for a while and turn back to GW to engage COW and push them back out. But when we did this you guys were all in Nano BS's Bumping single players form the station and then ganking them with abuot 5 different ships. Then when we finally get a gang togeather you guys run back off to Egbinger and it just wastes our time. Wed rather engage an enemy that stands and fights (Like LV) than runs away like you guys. It wasted our pew pew time.

Sure youve had gangs of what 40+ but ATM CA have gangs of 60-100 (sumtimes even more) down in detroit engaging LV. And we know as soon as we bring that fleet back up to GW you will run away again and weve wasted like antoher hour or 2 of our time. Is it no wonder weve decided to not even bother now?


D'onryu Shoqui
Gallente
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.02 10:59:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 02/03/2007 10:57:15
Quote:
Im outside this conflict but this thread interested me in few points.
1. Who cares?
2. Whats the point of that thtead?

its entirely an epeon thread for a small alliance wishing to stroke there ego or to extend a part of there body that doesnt need to be mentioned via the forums.

Quote:
that shows that there back door is open to me as i was under the impression they responded fast to hostile fleets in their space.

the majority of our alliance can not be bothred with cow anymore for obvious reasons, ie they dont want fights they just want ganks so its very boring to chase them.
Quote:
but when a larger force comes in they stay docked.
and im not even going to talk about e02, those guys stay docked all the time nowdays.


when a serious threat comes along we will respond with a show of force, the only alliance so far that has came in any kind of force is d2 with 100 pilots in a battle of which we won , if i remember right the only 2 people from there gang that survived were in pods

once the war against lv/bob has ended and we arent as spread out we will see what cow is really made of

Plutoinum
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:12:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Plutoinum on 02/03/2007 11:12:40
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
ie they dont want fights they just want ganks so its very boring to chase them.


I could point you to a video, but it's not for the public I think, maybe some other one is still in the works. It's without nanos, it's when you warp a large gang on us, it ends with us still sitting at that gate. And I'm not waving my e-peen, I'm waving my mates e-peens. Hope, I'm allowed to touch them.Embarassed
Because I wasn't there that day. I was there the two days after that, when we had similar fun. Cool

Surely, if you come with 50 vs. 25, a ****load of EW ships to kill us finally, after you have lost the first two battles, then we just leave. Mean, I know. But we are cowardly cows, you know. Laughing

soulkiller3
Minmatar
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:14:00 - [44]
 

I like how cow started this war one day after our main fleet moves out of GW. Well done at ganking our carebears, they may learn to be more carefull. I came back once to fight Cow, 30 jumps to camp 10 nanobattles ships in a empire station. Your in GW to try and wast time from us fighting LV, its not going to work.


fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:15:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: fuze on 02/03/2007 11:11:31
Originally by: BlackFury
I look forward further engagements with you, your next set of stats won't be as good. YARRRR!!Twisted Evil



This guy knows whats Eve is all about.


Fedaykinn
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:20:00 - [46]
 

Bascially COW our opinion of you Atm is that you guys run away. Its a long way to come back to GW from where our main pvpers are. (And our gangs of 60+) And we just cannot be bothered with a Enemy that will run away after weve spent 1 hour jumping all the way back and then weve gotta spend another hour jumping back to where we jsut came from.

when the war ends im sure then we will give you our full attention but for now enjoy ganking ppl and carebears

c0rn1
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:20:00 - [47]
 

Bad Boys, Bad Boys,
what ya gonna do, what ya gonna do when they come for you?

GJ CoW!
Keep it up.
CA is an entity where the level of whining is antiproportional to the available ships they got :)

regards


putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:26:00 - [48]
 

so if curse alliance is resided in SP and they are not willing to defend GW. Why even claim the place? Based on your words i in your position would announce gw as contested and we can drop this chest beating from both sides. Other option is for you to come back to gw and have some fun with us :)




Crellion
Gallente
Parental Control
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:30:00 - [49]
 

I am against the existence of this thread tbh but the "oh it doesnt matter you suck but we are busy elsewhere" posts by CA guys sort of exhonerate it retrospectively.

I would like to say though that AWAR thinks people who want to see info can look for our (better than this thread implies btw Razz) stats for themselves and dont need to be told in a thread. Putukas of course heads a separate sovereign entity within our alliance and has the right to decide for himself.


BustyBounty
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:32:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: BustyBounty on 02/03/2007 11:31:03
Edited by: BustyBounty on 02/03/2007 11:30:48
whats with the thread title? it insinuates that we have been attempting to misconstrue the truth on these forums.

as far as im aware this is not the case , i dont recall any ca threads attempting to distort your claims.

btw if people didnt figure it out yet there goal is to disrupt our operations against lv , this thread looks like an attempt at goading us into pulling back all our fleets into GW in order to defend against a minor threat.

Crellion
Gallente
Parental Control
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:34:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: soulkiller3
I like how cow started this war one day after our main fleet moves out of GW. Well done at ganking our carebears, they may learn to be more carefull. I came back once to fight Cow, 30 jumps to camp 10 nanobattles ships in a empire station. Your in GW to try and wast time from us fighting LV, its not going to work.



Hum Hum cow started this war the day you formed and before the Mega war started... I explained then that the very birth of your alliance was an abomination that would be punished... well it has been, dont you agree?

Anyway I am ducking out of this thread since I disapprove of it o/

Fedaykinn
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:36:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Fedaykinn on 02/03/2007 11:35:12
Nice twisiting of words there... I said our main pvp gangs are down in deteroid. We still have a large presence in GW as im sure you guys have seen. Majority of them though are industralists we do have a few Pvpers still in GW though obviously.

And like i said if we ever do bring the gang back up jumping through 20 or so systems. You guys will jsut run back off to Egbinger. Tell me how are you meant to have fun with an enemy that is based in empire and will run bak there as soon as a defense gang shows up? You cant

Were having alot more fun with LV. I see you guys are just trying to disrupt our attacks on LV its not gonna happen COW.

putukas
Amarr
Enterprise Estonia
Cult of War
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:38:00 - [53]
 

i made this thread becouse im dissapointed last night 3 hour flying around gw and having no response from CA. But still they are saying on eve-o and to their coalition members that our alliance doesnt have influence to them. I wanted to show others how much influence we have.

Im realy hoping they come and defend GW tbh.



Fedaykinn
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:41:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Fedaykinn on 02/03/2007 11:39:45
Originally by: putukas
i made this thread becouse im dissapointed last night 3 hour flying around gw and having no response from CA. But still they are saying on eve-o and to their coalition members that our alliance doesnt have influence to them. I wanted to show others how much influence we have.

Im realy hoping they come and defend GW tbh.





Because you will jsut run away again like you always do, and youve waisted our time. That is the basis as to why we dont bother coming back. Simple as

As to the post made about making Gw contested having a presence then running abck to empire when a defence fleet arrives doesnt convey as contesting space to me cus at the end of the day were the ones still in Gw, and your the ones back in Egbinger

BustyBounty
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:43:00 - [55]
 

Quote:
Im realy hoping they come and defend GW tbh.

your contesting it? if not we have nothing to defend against.

alot of us enjoy the warzone it allows the newer members of our alliance to have some practice before we throw them into the fire that burns in bob/lv space

Tobruk
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:47:00 - [56]
 

We leave to fight LV... you come and attack GW

we come back to fight you...you run away

im sorry to ask this (seems so obvious) but do you reall think you matterQuestion


Crellion
Gallente
Parental Control
Merciless.
Posted - 2007.03.02 11:48:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Crellion on 02/03/2007 11:45:19
And these last three posts demonstrate why there is no point in this thread. They will never own up. There is no point treating them like NBSI or MC or RA or anyother serious war enemy of the past. There is a propaganda line with 2000 members repeating the same stuff.

There are KBs and videos of fleetbattles let those things do our talking AWAR pls stay away from this thread. TY

(ps Putukas as I said you are a leader of your people and your choices are respected and your own. I am merely talkign for awar)

Menf
Gallente
Seraphin Technologies
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2007.03.02 12:35:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 02/03/2007 10:57:15
Quote:
Im outside this conflict but this thread interested me in few points.
1. Who cares?
2. Whats the point of that thtead?

its entirely an epeon thread for a small alliance wishing to stroke there ego or to extend a part of there body that doesnt need to be mentioned via the forums.

Quote:
that shows that there back door is open to me as i was under the impression they responded fast to hostile fleets in their space.

the majority of our alliance can not be bothred with cow anymore for obvious reasons, ie they dont want fights they just want ganks so its very boring to chase them.
Quote:
but when a larger force comes in they stay docked.
and im not even going to talk about e02, those guys stay docked all the time nowdays.


when a serious threat comes along we will respond with a show of force, the only alliance so far that has came in any kind of force is d2 with 100 pilots in a battle of which we won , if i remember right the only 2 people from there gang that survived were in pods

once the war against lv/bob has ended and we arent as spread out we will see what cow is really made of


Sorry... but if i remember right was this situation of GW(V fought down there in SP and IMP shoot the carebears in GW) the point where IMP said "LOOK! We own GW! We shootin so much V! We forced them out of GW!
I still remember the endless forum-threads where IMP tryd to get attention of theyre actions(especially in the Map-thread).

and now you going to say "what Cow are doing is lame, because all of our pvp-ppl are down at LV"?

The sides have changed and the IMP-guys still the same.
Great in forum. Weak in PvP.

Keep up the good work CoW.

PS: and your last mention "once the war against lv/bob has ended and we arent as spread out we will see what cow is really made of"...
the V-pvp-corps allready showed YOU what you are made of after we came back from SP
and also CA will not come back to GW after this war...not as the "owner" of GW... believe me Wink

dabster
Minmatar
Di Hart's Solar Systems Corporation
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.03.02 12:38:00 - [59]
 

I wish more CA members would engage their brains before posting, and then decide to not reply.

You look a lot like idiots, please shut up.


Credits go where credits are due, I might think myself that Cow are complete **** to fight thanks to nano-setups being the way they are. But that doesnt mean i have to enter full on denial mode and spout crap to counter FACTUAL numbers.

Now CA stop posting before even more people laugh at you.

Zhaine
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.03.02 12:50:00 - [60]
 

Good stuff CoW, sounds like fun is being had and that's what's important.

And remember that 6 to 9 months ago (might be a little off but that's about right) RA, in terms of PvP, was nothing but a bunch of roaming gank squads who were vastly outnumbered and coudn't do anything against LV/V/KOS/CHIMP blobs, yet still got a vastly superior K:D ratio.

Now look Shocked


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