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tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:26:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: tiller on 29/01/2007 18:23:45

Tackling at min gates is plain rediculous. Sure, we can use recons, expensive faction disruptors or just blob the gate but it's not the point.

I think all gates in eve should be the same size... unless there is a RP reason for just the min gates dumping people well over 30km from the center.

Could a dev plz explain why the minmatar regions are afflicted with what I can only see as a mistake dating back to Beta (and something that should of been fixed years ago)

Thanks

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:28:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 29/01/2007 18:24:50
In before flames Cool

Also minmatars invented piracy you think they would fall your trap Wink

Samirol
Love is Hate
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:28:00 - [3]
 

its a shame everyone will just be a tard and flame because of your corp


Please fix this obvious bug.

tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:31:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: tiller on 29/01/2007 18:33:56
Originally by: Samirol
its a shame everyone will just be a tard and flame because of your corp


Please fix this obvious bug.


Typical convo from a pvp corp living in min space -

pilot1: is blahblah online in his lachesis soon ?
pilot2: no he aint on tonight
pilot1: oh, ok cya tomorrow


From recent blogs CCP want to encourage less blob play but leave us to fight the mechs that the min gate creates.

Alumion
Deviance Inc
DeStInY.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:31:00 - [5]
 

I didn't noticed this yet I live in Molden Heath. Are you sure?

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:41:00 - [6]
 

Well I'm not a fan of bugs so fix it please

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:42:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 29/01/2007 18:39:04
Double post argh Mad

Velsharoon
Gallente
Arcane Velshologies
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:46:00 - [8]
 

I lived in Molden Heath for like a year...I say keep it the way it is, forces people to put some extra effort into gate camps. If it was different it would be easier but all the factions are different

We used lachesis and faction disruptors...

I think its cos minnies are ******ed

Fat Ching
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:47:00 - [9]
 

ok... i believe this has something to do with... the size of the gate, and maybe the four spikes on its top... or do minnie gates just drop people farther away from their center than other gates?

i dunno, but it might be a good idea to elaborate a lil bit for all those people like me, that dont really have an idea of what youre talking about...

and dont ask for an rp reason, btw, if you want to have somehting changed...
One can come up with rp reasons for nearly everything, if given enough time.

Kehmor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:49:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Kehmor on 29/01/2007 18:45:22
this shouldn't really be a problem for the two best pvpers in eve and yet it is a problem for you Razz

Dr Slice
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:53:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Kehmor
Edited by: Kehmor on 29/01/2007 18:45:22
this shouldn't really be a problem for the two best pvpers in eve and yet it is a problem for you Razz


It just means we can't just use a few guys on a Minmat gate like on other gates. We need a blob on the gate unless there is a Recon to tackle.

I think he is saying the gates should be standardized. CCP wants to reduce the size of blobs yet their game mechanics promote blobs.


Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 18:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Velsharoon

I think its cos minnies are ******ed


******ed like a fox!

tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:00:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Kehmor
Edited by: Kehmor on 29/01/2007 18:45:22
this shouldn't really be a problem for the two best pvpers in eve and yet it is a problem for you Razz


PVP starts once you catch your target. Not when they warp away Wink

Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:04:00 - [14]
 

hehe, sorry to correct you there, tiller.

but pvp starts sooner.

"where?" you might ask..well... it might be in the fitting screen, it might be, when you decide to hunt somebody, or when you just have the thought "there's my next target".
i dont really know.

but its deffo before you activate a warp scrambler.

tiller
THE PILLAGE
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:04:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Alumion
I didn't noticed this yet I live in Molden Heath. Are you sure?


I hate to say it, tis true.. but shows you never tackle many guys at gates tbh. Minmatar Veld roids remain at a easy to mine range however, so you are partially right Laughing

Destr0math
Tritanium Workers Union
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:15:00 - [16]
 

omg ur corp!

this idea sux!!!

</sarcasm>

yeah, minmatar gates suck anyway, they look dangerous to even use...when i get a sparkly new battleship, there is no way i'll take it through so my new clean rust goes and gets all dirtied by their big long pipe o' dirt.

Alumion
Deviance Inc
DeStInY.
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:18:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Alumion on 29/01/2007 19:17:51
Originally by: tiller


I hate to say it, tis true.. but shows you never tackle many guys at gates tbh. Minmatar Veld roids remain at a easy to mine range however, so you are partially right Laughing


You're right, I don't gatecamp so I guess it only benefits me. Still it should be fixed - the slaves shouldn't have an easy ride
I'll just ignore the other comment

PCaBoo
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:28:00 - [18]
 

It's probably why Amamake isn't a complete death trap. I hate minni gates. We (Pirate coalition) had a 12 man bs camp around the Amamake gate with people all around the gate and people still got away. Rolling Eyes

Zaethiel
Infinity Research
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:36:00 - [19]
 

Having trouble adjusting to mimataar gates since leaving the forge?

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:40:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Zaethiel
Having trouble adjusting to mimataar gates since leaving the forge?


Your moms a forge!


let it be known that I counter smacked first Wink

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:46:00 - [21]
 

Some stations have better docking ports than others. Some systems are larger than others and therefore require 2-3 warps to get across. Some ships are better for certain role and can't be effectively used for another.

I fail to see a reason to standardize all gates other than tiller wants them to be standard. Adapt to surroundings?

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 19:49:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Tecam Hund
Adapt to surroundings?


Seems logical as well.

Every one train gallente recon V!

Shadrin
Gallente
Viper Intel Squad
Pure.
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:17:00 - [23]
 

I guess my solution will be to avoid all those regions.

Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:22:00 - [24]
 

Minnie gates separate the men from the boys Wink


Leto Twin
Amarr
Caritas.
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:23:00 - [25]
 

I endorse tiller's post! = )!

Fix the gates, I don't want to spend 20M on a faction disruptors (I think its 13M for a faction web, I would assume disruptors are about the same).

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:23:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Shadrin
I guess my solution will be to avoid all those regions.


Avoid them if you only gate camp, maybe. But look at minmatar space as environment more suited for small roaming gang piracy than static gate camps. I think the gate size plays a big role in setting the mood of the place.

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Minnie gates separate the men from the boys Wink




And in some cases neuters the men when they get caught on the death spikes

Heikki
Gallente
Erasers inc.
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:49:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: tiller
I think all gates in eve should be the same size
Isn't variation better? Like some regions have better rats than others, some have easier gates. In pirating, like in ratting, you get to choose where to hunt (or at least fight for the choice).

You know, carebears could be as well asking for all gates to be Minmatar variants, so could have a chance against some coward who attacks their weak hauler with big ship..

-Lasse

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2007.01.29 20:52:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Heikki
Originally by: tiller
I think all gates in eve should be the same size
Isn't variation better? Like some regions have better rats than others, some have easier gates. In pirating, like in ratting, you get to choose where to hunt (or at least fight for the choice).

You know, carebears could be as well asking for all gates to be Minmatar variants, so could have a chance against some coward who attacks their weak hauler with big ship..

-Lasse


Look you filthy anti pirate haulers with anything decent will only be caught at the gates so don't call gate campers cowards because they want nice things

Kehmor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.01.29 21:45:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Kehmor
Edited by: Kehmor on 29/01/2007 18:45:22
this shouldn't really be a problem for the two best pvpers in eve and yet it is a problem for you Razz


PVP starts once you catch your target. Not when they warp away Wink


actually i disagree, in my opinion catching them is half the battle.

anyway you know i was just taking the ****


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