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Blue Wretch
Posted - 2007.01.24 14:27:00 - [1]
 

Hello, I am a fairly new player with rather limited PvP experience and I was just wondering which ship would be better to test out the waters. Incursus or Tristan? I have a little over 3 million skill points but have been mostly running missions while I train and earn money to fund my desire to PvP. I am sure a lot of people will say get a rifter but if at all possible I would like to stick to gallente. So if anyone could be so kind to enlighten me which one they believe to be better in PvP and why I would be grateful. And maybe an example ship setup that would be great. Thanks Very Happy

Melicien Tetro
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.01.24 14:44:00 - [2]
 

The incursus is cheap, easy to fit, not very SP intensive.
It gets my vote.

Torkal Norvon
Posted - 2007.01.24 14:46:00 - [3]
 

I'd agree on the Incursus. I prefer the Falloff bonus to the Tracking bonus on the Tristan, and I DESPISE mixed hardpoints (I'll take the 3 turret hardpoints of the Incursus over the 2 turret\2 launcher hardpoints of the Tristan any day).

Flitz Farseeker
Farseeker Entertprises
Posted - 2007.01.24 14:50:00 - [4]
 

I like the Incursus. Not done a lot of PVP with one so can't comment there, but a tackler setup could be something like this:

HI: blasters and/or small NOS
MID: MWD, scrambler, webber
LO: armor plate, armor repper

Incursus is pretty tight to fit grid wise. Best fit I could get (with 5 mill sp) was 3 named light electrons, a 200 mm plate and a 'civilian' repper (yes you read that right). Could drop the plate and fit a couple of Ions or possibly even fit a MAPC for Neutrons, but won't have much/any tank.

Spoony Brook
Filiolus Of Bellum
Warp to Desktop
Posted - 2007.01.24 14:50:00 - [5]
 

i personally prefer the Tristan, though the incusrus makes a good cheap tackler

Tristan setup

Highs

2x Neutron Blasters w/void
1x nos
1x abalast missile launcher w/whatever

meds

catalyzed thrusters
x5 web
j5 scram

lows

Small armour rep
Micro Aux power core
Cap relay

drone

1x hobgoblin

basically get in kill there frigs and get out.. i can go 1.8km/s and my nav skills aren't great.
t2 where you can ofcourse.

or if blasters aren't your thing:

highs

2x 125mm w/ antimatter
2x standard missiles launchers w/ whatever

med

cold gas thruster
j5 scram
micro cap injector (only there as its a spare spot and it fits)

lows

small armour rep
micro Aux power core
cap relay

drone bay
hobgoblin

orbit 10km or drop anti for spike if you want to be further away. again t2 where you can

Shadrin
Gallente
Viper Intel Squad
Pure.
Posted - 2007.01.24 15:08:00 - [6]
 

Frigs are nice and all to start with. But I found simply they don't have the DPS to really be too effective. Keep saving and buy a handful of cruisers to go through learning how to PVP.

Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2007.01.24 16:07:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Shadrin
Frigs are nice and all to start with. But I found simply they don't have the DPS to really be too effective. Keep saving and buy a handful of cruisers to go through learning how to PVP.

T1 Gallente frigs might not have good DPS but a few of the the Gallente t2 Frigs do more damage then some cruisers Wink

MrTripps
Gallente
Hedonistic Squirrels
Posted - 2007.01.24 16:20:00 - [8]
 

I like Spooney's setup. With T2 blasters it can do a surprising amount of DPS. Only difference is I'd use a Warrior II instead of the Hobgoblin.

If you have the means the Ishkur is the bomb.

Blue Wretch
Posted - 2007.01.24 17:17:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Shadrin
Frigs are nice and all to start with. But I found simply they don't have the DPS to really be too effective. Keep saving and buy a handful of cruisers to go through learning how to PVP.


Oh I have more then enough isk to fit out quite a few cruisers. I was just looking to start with a frigate to get a little more PvP experience since I am expecting to die and frigates are so cheap I can insure them and make a profit when it blows up, assuming no mods were on it, and I have no expectations of actually surviving many of my first PvP encounters (although it would be nice to take someone with me Very Happy).

Thank you all for the advice. A lot of people are mentioning tackling or anti tackling but I am more looking for a solo experience picking on people who aren't built for anti frig and what not. I realize I won't be soloing battleships or anything but I hear people taking on cruisers with t1 frigs but that may only be the chase for rather skilled pilots. So I guess really I am looking for anti frig, cruiser, or miner set ups and advice.

I was also wondering if I should use mwd to go fast enough for larger caliber guns from hitting me or will the increased sig radius cause me to get toasted before I even get there? I have all the capacitor skills at four or five so I hope I would be able to use the mwd without destroying my ability to use other modules. Anyway thanks for helping a newb Razz


SwindonBadger
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2007.01.24 17:21:00 - [10]
 

incursus :) best speed damge ship for gallent,. or go for the 1 point tackle more cap and 125s. then train a rifter!

Ice Conch
Exit 13
Posted - 2007.01.24 17:36:00 - [11]
 

incursus, definitely.

The tristan is crap imo

kisu tei
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.01.24 18:00:00 - [12]
 

incursus. speed, blasters and no split weapons > split weapons, slow and missiles

Darknar
Gallente
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2007.01.24 18:02:00 - [13]
 

i prefeer the incursus over the tristen. mainly becuse of the incursus speed.

when fitting it i ususally go for an all out do or die setup.

3 ions
MWD, webber, warp scrambler
2 Istabs or damage mods if you can fit them.

Windorian
Posted - 2007.01.24 18:05:00 - [14]
 

Personally, i use a punisher and can take out nearly any frig, cruiser, and some BC i've crossed. Only real weakness is against webbers or blasterax. For gallente, tristan is great, use:
high: 2 named rocket launcher, 2 small nos
med: web, AB, scram
low SARII, cap power relay and EANM

Byzan Zwyth
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2007.01.24 19:48:00 - [15]
 

I like the tristan, yeah another turret would be good but I use 2x blasters and 2x rockets. Works nice but inside web range.

Sir Drake
Caldari
Posted - 2007.01.24 20:36:00 - [16]
 

Incursus is a lovely ship with t2 ions.
Although i havent used it for quite a long time i still hold it dear as i learnd pvp in it when i started.

Dahak2150
Arm of Orion
Posted - 2007.01.24 20:38:00 - [17]
 

My vote goes with the incursus too. No split bonuses, about half to one third of the cost, looks better, etc.

Rainsdon
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.01.24 22:43:00 - [18]
 

Insursus all the way.

I had: 2 T2 Ion/Electrons, 1 Named Nos...AB, Web, 2pts...T2 Rep, and dont remember.

But with this setup I was able to take out Gisti A-type fitted Harpies (w/ 150mm's and a standard launcher) and poorly fitted Ferox/Proph's.

It can do over 750 m/s so as long as you arent web'd and they dont have rockets, you can take out a good handful of bigger ships.

All in all a ton of fun!


 

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