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Red DeMon
Posted - 2006.11.04 17:48:00 - [1]

Edited by: Red DeMon on 04/11/2006 17:50:21
Hello i'm geting a new Graphics Cards for xmas but i dont know which one to get. Can i get some help please

Card 1

Card 2

Thanks for the help Cool

Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2006.11.04 18:04:00 - [2]

i would say the first one...based on the limited stats that they give on that site...

Posted - 2006.11.04 18:05:00 - [3]

Edited by: Kyozoku on 04/11/2006 18:05:42
Card 2 is superior on paper but I've never hard of the brand.

Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.11.04 19:37:00 - [4]

Posted - 2006.11.04 20:33:00 - [5]

I wouldn't recommend Radeon cards to anyone.

Posted - 2006.11.04 20:33:00 - [6]

go for ATi.

Dark Shikari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.11.04 20:54:00 - [7]

Radeon X1650 stats:

X1650 Pro
Die Process: 90/80 nm
Clock speed (core/memory): 600/700
Texture units:4
Pixel Shader units:12
Render Output Units (pixel pipelines):4
Vertex Shaders:5
Megatexels/second: 2400
Memory interface: 128-bit
Memory bandwidth: 22.4 GB/s

(from Wikipedia)

Die Process: 90 nm
Clock speed (core/memory): 560/700
Texture units:12
Pixel Shader units:12
Render Output Units (pixel pipelines):12
Vertex Shaders:5
Megatexels/second: 6720
Memory interface: 128-bit
Memory bandwidth: 22.4 GB/s

(from Wikipedia)

Overall, the 7600GT massacres the X1650Pro, from the specs. It has three times the number of pixel pipelines.

Talon's Grasp
Posted - 2006.11.04 21:29:00 - [8]

I'm fanatically against ATI, stemming from the utter crap cards they produced in the era of the Voodoo 2. ATI's newer stuff, while improved, still does not impress me.

Stick with Nvidia, but don't buy MSI brand cards. Find another brand of Geforce card. MSI has horrible quality ratings according to newegg.

If money is not all the important, I'd spend the extra cash and get a 7950 GT, or if you can't afford that, a 7800 GT.

It is worth noting that in a few short months Windows Vista and DirectX 10 are going to hit the shelves, and your brand new X-mas toy will be instantly obsolete. Translation: I'd wait those extra few months and get a directx 10 compatible card.

Broski Enterprises
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2006.11.04 21:55:00 - [9]

I have no complaints about my Radeon X1800 XL All in Wonder card, but I'd go with the 7600GT if you're going to pick between those two. It should outperform the ATI card.

Posted - 2006.11.04 22:02:00 - [10]

I personally wouldn't buy a video new card at this time. Video cards that natively support DirectX 10 will be coming out sometime within the next year. They'll be expensive at first, but will allow you to have a card thats compatible with the new DirectX features. Also, games that will be coming out will support DirectX 9 and 10. While that may seem like you could just get one of the currently available cards, cards capable of supporting DirectX versions of games would perform better. I don't mean because they will be newer cards, but because, according to Microsoft, DirectX 10 will have significant performance increases over DirectX 9.

Broski Enterprises
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2006.11.04 22:15:00 - [11]

I would buy a card now, just not a really expensive one. There will always be something new and uber just over the horizen that's worth waiting for, but it's going to be some time before DX10 cards become mainstream. At least 6 months and probably over a year.

Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2006.11.05 00:12:00 - [12]

Long time NVIDIA user here who switched to ATI x1800xt for Oblivion.

Never again will I buy ATI!

Try to find an MSI NVIDIA card, I have had great luck with NVIDIA GPU's on an MSI board...

Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
Posted - 2006.11.05 00:19:00 - [13]

Originally by: Aterna
I'm fanatically against ATI, stemming from the utter crap cards they produced in the era of the Voodoo 2. ATI's newer stuff, while improved, still does not impress me.

ShockedRolling Eyes

X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
Posted - 2006.11.05 01:02:00 - [14]

I suggest you have a careful read through Anandtech's Autumn '06 Nvidia Roundup.

Its worth nothing this from their X1650 XT review:

"In the past, the X1600 XT was meant by ATI to be competition for the NVIDIA 7600 GT, but as such it was a miserable failure. Its current replacement, the X1650 Pro isn't able to do any better with only a 10MHz boost in core and memory clock speed over the X1600 XT. "

This should give you some sense of where the X1650 Pro would fit in with those benchmarks - ie. scoring almost identically to the X1600 XT.

It certainly looks like the 7600 GT is the better option of the two, often scoring 20% higher or more than the X1600 XT on the games reviewed.

For all the talk of ATI vs. Nvidia and even the raw stats of the cards, it's measurable performance which matters.

Red DeMon
Posted - 2006.11.05 01:47:00 - [15]

Edited by: Red DeMon on 05/11/2006 01:58:02
What about this one?!?

Thanks for all the help so far Smile

I have 350 to spend this is what i want to get. If enyone thinks i could get better please please post here

Hard Drive
And one of the Nvidia Graphics Cards

Posted - 2006.11.05 02:51:00 - [16]

By the time X-mas roles around the DX10 cards will be available. You may want to check them out. I only know of the high-end ones so far, which will be released in a week. But you may want to watch things in case the lower-end ones come out in the next month or so.

22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
Posted - 2006.11.05 14:54:00 - [17]

Go for the 7600GT mate... although it may be a good idea to wait for vista now.... im in the same situtation atm i really need to replace my ancient radeon 9600pro now..... grrr

Posted - 2006.11.05 15:29:00 - [18]

I run two 7600's on my machine; sli'd. They run great and deff are only inferior to the 7800 and soon to be 8000's. If you can afford get two of them you wont be sorry.


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