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Deathhawk
Hammersmith Hardmen
Posted - 2006.09.12 10:48:00 - [31]
 

im not really that bothered about them but gotta post both...

everyone loses a ship once in a while

Kahor
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.12 12:14:00 - [32]
 

In Coreli Corporation, everyone is entitled to post all their kills and loss, failure to do that will ultimatly lead to a boot :)

dawood koplanski
Biel-Tan
Posted - 2006.09.12 12:22:00 - [33]
 

take the rough with the smooth kills and losses

Resin Kadir
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.12 12:28:00 - [34]
 

Posting of Killmails (which ascribe to both kills and losses) is 100% voluntary. However, if you choose to take part in the posting of either, it's typically a rule that if you want to post mails showing how uber a killer you are, then you have enough integrity and honor to post your loss mails.

The only exception being, you don't post non-pvp mails when you lose a ship to say Concordoken or Factionization.

VoYvod
Imperial Crusade Extremists.
Posted - 2006.09.12 15:19:00 - [35]
 

if you lose a ship why would you want to post your death and advertise your setup to people who want to kill you and then know exactly how to counter it...... i say its more of a tactical thing more than pride ugh

boo3916
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.09.12 19:08:00 - [36]
 

i make sure all my guys post all losses and kills, i,m very good at chsing up people to do this as well, heaven help people in ync who dont post them i hound them to death, saying that 99% of losses do get posted and the rest i usually click onto and make sure they do, corp fines also for those that dont post there losses, it irritates me.

no point posting kills if u dont post your losses too is all i can saySmile

http://ync.griefwatch.net/

Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2006.09.13 01:20:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Vampari Hawkus
Originally by: Karille
I post both. The count on the board is just that, a count. I already lost the ship so why would it benefit me any to not post it.


Has it not occured to anyone that you give future enemies the loadout of your ship by posting your losses?

Posting losses will eventually shoot you in the foot, particularly if you are a pirate being stalked.


Well since someone killed you, your lost will already be posted as a kill.

If you are worried about having all your losses in one place (your killboard) then make it private for corp/alliance eyes only.


dailyhazard
Caldari
Team Cool
Posted - 2006.09.13 07:46:00 - [38]
 

I post all loss mails,
but then again i dont lose ships often, or to anything stupid so why would i be ashamed of posting one :]

Kaleeb
0ne Percent.
Posted - 2006.09.13 08:08:00 - [39]
 

Celes always posts all kills losses or darth gets mad Very Happy]

However I kinda wish killmails didnt exist as it would prob encourage more pvp

Nige007
Mnemonic Enterprises
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2006.09.13 09:28:00 - [40]
 

I post both, even the Velator I lost the other day. I would feel I'm cheeting myself and corp mates if I don't post everything. If one day I'm top or even in the top 10 on the bored it will be because I've PVP'd well and not because I'm a liar.

Nige

Mangold
Mad Bombers
Guns and Alcohol
Posted - 2006.09.13 11:58:00 - [41]
 

If you post kills you should post losses aswell. Easy enough imho.

I do however know of a certain pirate alliance that posts max 50% of their losses. I guess it makes them feel strong and great but it just looks sad.

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2006.09.13 12:33:00 - [42]
 

Loss mails are very important - it is free intel on the state of your enemy

Dupac
Subite
Posted - 2006.09.13 12:36:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: hUssmann
In Veto if you don't post your loss mails you get the boot, exactly as it should be.


Same here - we always post both


LoganFire
Quam Singulari
Session Changes
Posted - 2006.09.13 12:54:00 - [44]
 

I love my kill mails, however i hate my losses mail but even I post both as at the end of the day you can lie to others but you can not lie to your self. What you must also remember is that there are quite a few kill boards so the mail may only be posted on one but not the rest.

FEEL THE QUAMYARRRR!!

murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2006.09.13 22:54:00 - [45]
 

I post both, but I find that my opponents post them faster than I can put them up :P

Additionally I only post my mails both kill and loss when I'm ready to delete them from my evemail, so I tend to hang on to my lossmails a little longer than my killmails just for reference. It's easier referring to them in game than having to go OOG just to find out when I was killed last, by whom, and with what weapon.

Rayvonuk
Privateers
Posted - 2006.09.14 04:05:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Gift
Dont post either, who cares.


The best post in this thread !

FragSyndrome
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.09.14 07:20:00 - [47]
 

It is tactically foolish to post your losses as you're informing your enemy about your ship fittings and flying habbits. I know that I inspect my enemy's losses on battleclinic to get an idea of what I'm up against.

Mangold
Mad Bombers
Guns and Alcohol
Posted - 2006.09.14 07:45:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: FragSyndrome
It is tactically foolish to post your losses as you're informing your enemy about your ship fittings and flying habbits. I know that I inspect my enemy's losses on battleclinic to get an idea of what I'm up against.


Fair enough, but then you shouldn't post your kills either, right? They give enough information themeselves.

Ginger Magician
Minmatar
OctoberSnow Corp
Posted - 2006.09.14 09:25:00 - [49]
 

I suggest u contact Mercenary Coalition regarding this matterLaughing



Buraken v2
Spontaneous Defenestration
Posted - 2006.09.14 10:13:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: FragSyndrome
It is tactically foolish to post your losses as you're informing your enemy about your ship fittings and flying habbits. I know that I inspect my enemy's losses on battleclinic to get an idea of what I'm up against.


Originally by: Lord WarATron
Loss mails are very important - it is free intel on the state of your enemy


Flawed argument since you already have given away same info by posting killmails.

xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.09.14 22:45:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Buraken v2
So, is this how it works? You only post your killmails but you are not supposed to, or dont have to, post your lossmails? Rather it is the killers job to post the killmails (i.e your lossmail) is this the general consensus of the EVE killboards?

Do YOU post your killmails but never your lossmails because you think that its not your "job" to do so?


Trinity Nova posts all killmails, both the good and bad variety. The only exception are noob ships, which are disregarded by our killboard stats anyway so we dont require pilots to post them.

Anyone finding a discrepancy with our killboard is encouraged to contact Tyto, Sergej, Tecor, or myself.


Liisa
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.09.15 00:04:00 - [52]
 

None, never.

I don't see the point.

Disclaimer:
Yes, there are mails where my name is mentioned posted, however I did not do it.

eve warrior
Minmatar
Filthy Scum
Scum Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.15 13:46:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: VoYvod
if you lose a ship why would you want to post your death and advertise your setup to people who want to kill you and then know exactly how to counter it...... i say its more of a tactical thing more than pride ugh


Another reason Not to use public killboards. Our Killboards show what the victims have lost and had fitted but Our lose mails only show what ship we lost and who killed us. I agree that you dont want the enemy to find out your setups but simply looking though afew killboards.

Eve warrior

Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.09.15 15:55:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Hans Roaming
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 11/09/2006 16:47:18
There is at least one alliance that ACTUALLY MODIFIED THEIR KILLBOARD SO THAT NOBODY COULD POST THEIR LOSSES.


Then they will never be able to make a correct decision based on their pvp performance.


Rolling Eyes I wonder who that is...

Excuses some entities use for this policy is "not to show everyone where pipes are to gank haulers", "not to show everyone where to go to gank miners", "not to show everyone what setups people usually user", "it's a killboard, not a lossboard".

All BS.

However, many entities that do post losses, only post about 50-60% of them. So imho, anyone who does post losses should make every effort possible to ensure both kills and losses are up to date as possible.

Personally it irks me just as much to not post anything at all as it does looking at enemys board where the ship I just loss is shown by the person who did the last blow, but the same final blow guy who got it seconds later shows no losses at all... I mean you can't say "haven't got around to posting it yet" excuse... Shocked

smeggy
Minmatar
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
5th Column
Posted - 2006.09.15 18:56:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: smeggy on 15/09/2006 18:58:19
Originally by: Hans Roaming
I and my corp and alliance post both, always.


Guess I will have to send you some kill mails Hans. Ive got 3 kill mails loses that havnt been posted by your pilots. Please send me an in game eve mail to remind me because Im at work at the moment. But yes I agree most should post up their kms gives you acurate loses give you intel and others can learn from them.


Speed Devil
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2006.09.15 23:22:00 - [56]
 

i only post killmails on public board.
this is not for showing off or anything like that, its just to keep track of what road i walked from the start of my character...


killmails and lossmails are both on corpsite and only from pvp. kinda sucks that it shows setups of our losses to the public too Neutral

Soho Torres
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.09.16 10:10:00 - [57]
 

I always post my losses. It is a good way to see how well you are doing.

Tarnish Katharr
State Protectorate
Posted - 2006.09.16 12:29:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Tarnish Katharr on 16/09/2006 12:29:40
Our members are encouraged to post both. Loss mails give valuable info such as quickly letting you know what the gang that just wasted you is composed off, allowing the retaliatory gang to prepare appropriate EW. It can show problem systems that need more attention from our roaming PvPers.

Also allows us to laugh at a certain alliance we've recently been fighting that modifies their killmails.


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