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Gyn Seng
Posted - 2006.09.06 16:28:00 - [1]
 

Why cant we?

I travel around collecting ships all over and have to use the pod as shuttles are scarce many times - having to resort to the dock-eject thing to get into pod which is tedious and cumbersome.

so, why?

lofty29
Aliastra
Posted - 2006.09.06 17:00:00 - [2]
 

Uhm. Arent shuttles in every single station? Neutral

Harry Bucannon
Apocalypse Enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2006.09.06 17:08:00 - [3]
 

Shuttles dont exist (for sale by npc) in some -0.0 systems.

Detavi Kade
Posted - 2006.09.06 17:26:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: lofty29
Uhm. Arent shuttles in every single station? Neutral


No. I'm not even in 0.0, but there are quite a few stations I've seen that don't have shuttles. I've never found a system that didn't have a shuttle(excluding systems that don't have stations), but I've definitely found shuttle-less stations.

Gyn Seng
Posted - 2006.09.07 07:29:00 - [5]
 

doh?

Hamatitio
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2006.09.07 07:53:00 - [6]
 

Eject as you dock, and you are in a pod...

Mikey Monkfish
Posted - 2006.09.07 07:55:00 - [7]
 

What system are you in?

Every one I've been to has had a shuttle, it's just a case of how much you want to pay for it Wink

Rodge
Posted - 2006.09.07 08:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mikey Monkfish
Every one I've been to has had a shuttle, it's just a case of how much you want to pay for it Wink

PR-8CA, please be so kind to point out the shuttles for sale in this station that I can't see Wink

Not to mention how rare shuttles are in player conquerable stations.

Still, Ham shows the easy way to get around the problem. Unfortunately, I believe one of the devs mentioned recently that this (very handy) anomily is due to be fixed in a future release Sad

DaveJ777
Posted - 2006.09.07 08:00:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Hamatitio
Eject as you dock, and you are in a pod...

That's an exploit :)

The only true way to undock in pod is to buy a Capsule on escrow, switch to it, and undock. This obviously wont work in every station.

Undocking in pod is definitely a necessary feature.

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2006.09.07 08:15:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Rodge
Unfortunately, I believe one of the devs mentioned recently that this (very handy) anomily is due to be fixed in a future release Sad

DevBoy: Holy abandoned spacecraft DevMan! Players are using the ability to eject in their pods to reduce the number of ships sitting uselessly in space!
DevMan: Quickly DevBoy! To the nerfmobile!

Micia
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2006.09.07 08:19:00 - [11]
 

Why is the player-market not filling this apparent gap, then?

Shuttle BPOs are available from NPC merchants.

ugh

F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2006.09.07 09:28:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: DaveJ777
Originally by: Hamatitio
Eject as you dock, and you are in a pod...

That's an exploit :)




Um, NO!

If that were true, most of the playerbase would be banned.

Irongut
Sex Money Guns
Posted - 2006.09.07 09:36:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Rodge
Still, Ham shows the easy way to get around the problem. Unfortunately, I believe one of the devs mentioned recently that this (very handy) anomily is due to be fixed in a future release Sad


I really hope not. There's no other way to move ships around the galaxy without leaving one behind or having to buy/sell a shuttle.

On a similar theme, I wish people would stop ejecting just outside stations and leaving a shuttle or frig behind.

Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:02:00 - [14]
 

There should just be an eject option inside the station.
I've often times wished I could just use my pod.

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: DaveJ777
Originally by: Hamatitio
Eject as you dock, and you are in a pod...

That's an exploit :)




Um, NO!

If that were true, most of the playerbase would be banned.


False.

If it were an exploit *deemed by CCP to be worth of punishment*, then they would be banned.

They don't consider it worthy of punishment, but they ARE going to remove it. It was never supposed to be possible.

Baldour Ngarr
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:03:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Benco97
There should just be an eject option inside the station.
I've often times wished I could just use my pod.


And that's what the shuttle is FOR; that's why it exists in the game; and that's why you should not be able to eject in station. Make people use shuttles like they're supposed to.


No shuttles in the station where you are? Hey, look, a business opportunity for you. Get shuttles there and sell them.

Benco97
Gallente
Terraprobe Dynamics
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:07:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Baldour Ngarr

And that's what the shuttle is FOR; that's why it exists in the game; and that's why you should not be able to eject in station. Make people use shuttles like they're supposed to.


No shuttles in the station where you are? Hey, look, a business opportunity for you. Get shuttles there and sell them.


Do you remember what it was like before shuttles were introduced?

Ciphero
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:10:00 - [18]
 

I'm not sure why we shouldn't be able to fly about in our pods without being 'sploded first. It would result in far less shuttles/noob ships being abandoned outside stations causing lag ..

Gyn Seng
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:32:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: DaveJ777
Originally by: Hamatitio
Eject as you dock, and you are in a pod...

That's an exploit :)




Um, NO!

If that were true, most of the playerbase would be banned.


False.

If it were an exploit *deemed by CCP to be worth of punishment*, then they would be banned.

They don't consider it worthy of punishment, but they ARE going to remove it. It was never supposed to be possible.


Well, then pods shouldnt be allowed to have a probulsion system of their own if they arent meant to be piloted. Possibly an emergency rocket that can be fired to get it quickly out of harms way, but not warp and impulse about like any other ship. then, after the rocket was spent, u d have to get a salvage team out to retreive the pod, be it npc or player salvage service.

If that aint happening, I want to be able to treat me pod like any other ship pls. And seriously, no ones gona seed 0.0 stations with shuttles - its no business in shuttles. There will always be a lack of shuttles so deal with it.

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:48:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Micia
Why is the player-market not filling this apparent gap, then?

Shuttle BPOs are available from NPC merchants.

ugh


Here is an example - I am in a combat ship - I need to blow my pod up as I cannot clone jump.

I can either

Dock
Buy a shuttle or wait 4 hours to build one
undock
eject
self destruct

Or I can just eject while docking my combat ship and self destruct. now what are you going to choose?

Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Merciless.
Posted - 2006.09.07 10:54:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Benco97
There should just be an eject option inside the station.
I've often times wished I could just use my pod.


And that's what the shuttle is FOR; that's why it exists in the game; and that's why you should not be able to eject in station. Make people use shuttles like they're supposed to.


No shuttles in the station where you are? Hey, look, a business opportunity for you. Get shuttles there and sell them.


imho shuttles are meant for travelling (even without instas) ... but if i probe out a safespot with an abandoned ship ... i prefer to use the "exploit" than to buy a shuttle and leave it behind at the probed safespot ... you know ... gazillions of shuttles lag out the scanner - something i don't like to see often .. so i prefer NOT to use shuttles for such tasks Wink

Ginaz
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.09.07 11:03:00 - [22]
 

you CAN undock in pod Rolling Eyes just did it 5 minutes ago

Went in pod through high sec (my shuttle got blown up by concord half-way) and when i docked i trashed the ibis. Was no problem to undock in pod to board the AXE shuttle that i spotted in front of the station

Monkey nut
Minmatar
PioneerX Productions
Posted - 2006.09.07 12:10:00 - [23]
 

maybe I'm worng, but it seems logical.......

The reason you cant undock from your ship in a station and fly about in the pod, is simply because everytime you dock at a station the system detects this and spawns you a new noob ship. If you where allowed to simply fly about in your pod you would end up with Noob ships everywhere.Also it would kill off the shuttle market, yes there is a player market for shuttles especally outside empire.

RazorDreamz
Caldari
Chaotic dynamics
Posted - 2006.09.07 12:33:00 - [24]
 

I can help you find a pod.Twisted Evil

Lucre
STK Scientific
Black-Out
Posted - 2006.09.07 12:34:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Ciphero
I'm not sure why we shouldn't be able to fly about in our pods without being 'sploded first.


Perhaps flying around in a pod is viewed by the space community in much the same way as we would view someone who wandered around town in their underwear...
Very Happy


spookz
Four Rings
Phalanx Alliance
Posted - 2006.09.07 12:46:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Lucre
Originally by: Ciphero
I'm not sure why we shouldn't be able to fly about in our pods without being 'sploded first.


Perhaps flying around in a pod is viewed by the space community in much the same way as we would view someone who wandered around town in their underwear...
Very Happy



Something wrong with that? Razz


 

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