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Randay
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:01:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Randay on 28/07/2006 21:06:21
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Randay
Quote:
QDF was never part of UFS/CFS


Technically... I don't know if I remember exactly, but QDF was formed while CFS still had "formal" control over Q. Even if the name wasn't QDF, it was something else like CFSDF or some crap. It was the same people, name just changed at a point. I remember it was just before FIX formally formed, which would probably mean that it was still CFS territory.


And I thought my memory was poor. Razz

The defense force you speak of was formed though CFS with CFS personnel. It was to become their military wing and Ben Wallace was one of it's commanders, I believe. That force was not related to the QDF, but it was that force that was pushing for war against us, forming the plans for invading Q and attempting to regain control of something CFS had not controlled since the stations were introduced there.



It was all the same people, I know I remember that fact 100% for sure. We flew under CFS, no matter how much contempt we really had for them, then when the time was right we flew under our own flag, and that was that.

edit: remembering more, there were two defense groups. CFS navy and the QDF pilots. CFSN did nothing but talk, QDF pilots were the ones who really did all the shooting. We were called CFSDF or some crap, then the CFSN guys got angry because we were doing thier job for them. We changed name to QDF because of it, shortly after CFS was evicted and FIX formed.

Thats what I remember, am I wrong?

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:05:00 - [92]
 

I should verify... QDF was told that the CFS never knew about the H74 attack. If I remember right, someone may have admitted otherwise later on to one of our diplomats in a conversation.

Was definately good times. Lots of intrigue, lots of fights.

Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:05:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Randay
Quote:
QDF was never part of UFS/CFS


Technically... I don't know if I remember exactly, but QDF was formed while CFS still had "formal" control over Q. Even if the name wasn't QDF, it was something else like CFSDF or some crap. It was the same people, name just changed at a point. I remember it was just before FIX formally formed, which would probably mean that it was still CFS territory.


And I thought my memory was poor. Razz

The defense force you speak of was formed though CFS with CFS personnel. It was to become their military wing and Ben Wallace was one of it's commanders, I believe. That force was not related to the QDF, but it was that force that was pushing for war against us, forming the plans for invading Q and attempting to regain control of something CFS had not controlled since the stations were introduced there.



It was all the same people, I know I remember that fact 100% for sure. We flew under CFS, no matter how much contempt we really had for them, then when the time was right we flew under our own flag, and that was that.


Sorry, I still have to disagree. You think that myself, Nez, Droewa, Boldyn, Cougar One, Hicks, HeavyG, Sheppard, Madcap Magician, Levin, etc. flew under a CFS banner? No.

No biggie. History does get fuzzy as we move down the road. Wink

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:09:00 - [94]
 

If I remember right, there was the short lived group 'CFSDF' that was a mixture of locals in JK-FIX, and some CFS guys. Ben Wallace and Pastor somebody led them, but I think that Droewa flew with them as well.

The group pretty much split apart when Ben and Pastor started taking them in a direction many couldn't agree with.... for the life of me, I just can't remember what the heck that direction was.

Also don't quote me on this, but CFSDF was a bit before the QDF officially formed.

Randay
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:11:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Sorry, I still have to disagree. You think that myself, Nez, Droewa, Boldyn, Cougar One, Hicks, HeavyG, Sheppard, Madcap Magician, Levin, etc. flew under a CFS banner? No.

No biggie. History does get fuzzy as we move down the road. Wink


Nez and Boldy will know exactly what I am talking about :). But its only a technicality, I just have nothing better to do at work :P

James McGowen
Caldari
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:12:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: James McGowen on 29/07/2006 16:01:17
From what I remember of the HZF station deal, DSMA were asked to help attack it by CFS, lol. I could be wrong tho, you'd have to ask DJ from black lance. I was under the impression that some krom guy said to dj "hey lets shoot this thing" and dj was like "sure". Krom were in cfs at that time, werent they? Or has my memory just gone to pot?

edit: as rover says later on, this didnt go tru DSMA leadership so it must not have been DJ, my memory is a bit fuzzy. Probly some random BSI and black lance members and some krom guys.

Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:16:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 28/07/2006 21:16:32
Originally by: James McGowen
From what I remember of the HZF station deal, DSMA were asked to help attack it by CFS, lol. I could be wrong tho, you'd have to ask DJ from black lance. I was under the impression that some krom guy said to dj "hey lets shoot this thing" and dj was like "sure". Krom were in cfs at that time, werent they? Or has my memory just gone to pot?


Yes, Krom were in CFS for a short period of time. Your memory is correct. Regarding the rest, I bow to others' knowledge of this matter.

Randay
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:18:00 - [98]
 

dude there was a website :) listing pilots groupings it had like a little dragon logo or something. lol.

yes it all happened in a very short time span. QDF wasn't officially formed yet, might be where I am fuzzing the lines. Anyway don't bother arguing with me, I'm just bringing up old crap of no real significance. Reminicsing, I am.

Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:21:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Sorry, I still have to disagree. You think that myself, Nez, Droewa, Boldyn, Cougar One, Hicks, HeavyG, Sheppard, Madcap Magician, Levin, etc. flew under a CFS banner? No.

No biggie. History does get fuzzy as we move down the road. Wink


Nez and Boldy will know exactly what I am talking about :). But its only a technicality, I just have nothing better to do at work :P


I must have been stoned during that period of time. I do remember Pastor and Ben etc. and the defense force. I also remember some joint efforts in the pipe area. And yes, I think Avernus is correct concerning some of them flying together a few times, some of ours and some of theirs. He is also correct that QDF came into effect shortly thereafter when there were differences that developed, but the CFS Defense Force, if I recall correctly, was as I stated above, and that was after the split Avernus references. As for CFS exercising control over Q during this time, other than in name only, well, if they did we could not tell it.

Randay
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:23:00 - [100]
 

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=289079&page=1#12

There ya go. Post #12. and zOMFG LIQUIDCOOL, hahaha what an asshat. I wonder if hes still in game, Ill have to go wardec him for oldtimes sake.

Grey Hunter
Caldari
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:24:00 - [101]
 

This brings back memories... the days when a war was decided by who fought, rather than who has the people who can set up POS's when everyone else is asleep.

DSMA's gurilla war was somethign I've only ever experianced once. there were enough FA and FA puppets around to mean that the numbers were about even, but neither side could hold both the main stations at the same time for long. whenever we seemed to be getting the upper hand, a large FA fleet would arrive and send us running to our safespots until they left. I'm not going to try and glamourise it - after the first fleet battle where we took heavy losses we avoided the large fleets. the A2 pipe was dangerous enough in "peace" but during the war it was edge of your seat all the way down.

i've just looked at what we left in TPAR station, after we were given 48 hours free travel to get out stuff out of the area. and i've seen the blackbird i piloted for most of the three months is still there.

I'll reclaim it one day.....

Rover Vitesse
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:31:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: James McGowen
From what I remember of the HZF station deal, DSMA were asked to help attack it by CFS, lol. I could be wrong tho, you'd have to ask DJ from black lance. I was under the impression that some krom guy said to dj "hey lets shoot this thing" and dj was like "sure". Krom were in cfs at that time, werent they? Or has my memory just gone to pot?


It never went through DSMA leadership, we were fighting around TPAR at the time, and suddenly we were getting convos from QDF guys about why we were attacking HZF... I think that this was one of the watershed points for the whole DSMA ledaership. We were like "WTF?", because we were trying to get a deal to allow us through A2-V27 at the time. Maybe this is a prime example of how a tactical judgement on the field of battle can screw up your whole strategy.

I never mentioned; it was exciting times, it was one of the last great wars before the whole POS/Sovereignty thing changed the face of alliance warfare in Eve. There are a few entities in the modern Eve who simply would not survive if the rules were the same now as they were then. My most endearing memory? The week before it all kicked off, we had a CFS/DSMA/FA gang running CA down the pipe and back to Agil, almost 600 pilots chasing a gang of 100. One week later, firing on the same people we were helping the week before. I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D. I think we all learned a lot from Period Basis.

Coug
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:39:00 - [103]
 

Common Nebba, calling Angel trash for that comment? Much worse and much more inacurate has been spoken.

Yes, VC was created due to RUBRA and DMGI enjoying fighting guerilla style down in Period Basis against SHINRA/M3GA. No, we didn't have any large battles (5 a side was probably the max - I seem to recall a certain Mega pilot, but I can't remember his name atm). Yes SHINRA pulled out of the region shortly after we turned our full attention to the region. No, it had nothing to do with us (as history has shown SHINRA was pulling out to create the .5. elsewhere in the galaxy).

Vertigo Coalition was born in Period Basis in Winter '05. When BoB turned their attention to removing us from the area, we quickly signed a NAP and got our stuff out as we didn't have the manpower to defend against the Evil Eye of Molle (Spring '05 at the latest). We had some good fights against SA in the region before that (SMASH was in the area on our side as well, but they focused on Paragon Soul mainly).

It was interesting to return to Period Basis in the last few months, that's for sure Smile

TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2006.07.28 21:47:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Rover Vitesse
I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D.

Thats Frantik Razz

Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes)

Only guy I know who *single handedely* could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local.

His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary Cool

Rover Vitesse
Gallente
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2006.07.28 22:21:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: TornSoul

Thats Frantik Razz



Thats the chap. Truly legendary. Looking at the people who have posted in this thread, and seeing where they are now, and what they are doing, it pleases me that I was part of that small slice of Eve history.


PSEWAR
Amarr
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2006.07.28 22:52:00 - [106]
 

I used to be a senator and Diplomat in the Star Alliance (StA) while it was in Control over Delve.

The beginning of our Alliance was in Khanid, we lived there for a while and had good relations to the CFS. Then we heard that the Conquerable Stations in Delve were claimed by some CA Corps which were invading Delve.
So we gathered a fleet and went to Delve helping CFS and friends, throwing the invading force out again. At that time we did not had much knowledge about all the very confusing deals between CFS and FA at that time. So we were a bit disappointed that CFS told us we can get Control over Delve and keep the Stations but shortly after FA came to take the Station back from us.

As this was our first real excursion into 0.0 Space we accepted the fact that there seemed to be some misinformation about who owns what, etc. and began to live in Delve. As it got already mentioned in here the CFS was not an Alliance, more a coallition of Corps (as the name implies CFS = Coalltion of Free Stars ;) ), so they had not really to power to defend their territory so we began to help defending the Space more and more (I still remember the day long camp's in A2-V27 :)).

After the next CA Invasion took place where they came in and conquered the Stations again, we also fought them and threw em out again while conquering back the stations. Shortly after that one FA came down with a cruiser to get back the Station for em, so we had to shoot down the shield of "our" Station that he could make the last shoot to get it back.

Then the UFS got formed and discussed a "great" plan to fully get in control again over the CFS regions. So Conrad which was CFS leader back then (while he and his Corp were in SA?), stated that he will post an offical Thread in the E-o Boards that the deal between FA and CFS are void as FA did not fulfill their part of the Agreement and thus the conquerable Stations goes back to the CFS.
But about an hour before Conrad was ment to Post CFS & DSMA began to shoot at the Stations and initiated the war between FA and the UFS.
As the FA already knew about this plan they were prepared for it and as such came with a powerfull force to destroy the resistance.

As far as I remember we were doing a good job as meatshield between FA and CFS/DSMA as the FA Troops had to go through our region. But after to many pilots got podded back to empire we ran out troops in Delve as the QDF did a very awsome job blocking the Route down to us, so that it was impossible to get much reinforcements.
We then went to Guerilla warfare and were even succesfull doing it, but we saw the we had not much chance in the long run and finally disbanded after some weeks.

I hope that helps to keep track over the history of Delve while the Star Alliance was the inhabitant.

With best regards,
PSEWAR

xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.07.28 23:46:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Princess Kuki
I was looking at the old territorial maps and noticed devle and period basis were held by bob in all of them, and i cant remember any1 else who used to live in those regions.

So... who controlled them before bob came in? is there a history of these regions anywhere?

Hope som1 can answer :) Thanks



This may not be exactly dead on since im going from memory, but here goes. The first "alliance" to claim that space was the CFS alliance (which was actually way before in-game alliance mechanisms existed). CFS claimed Delve, Period Basis, and JK-FIX (which is now known as Querious). Many of the corps that founded the "fix" alliance were in fact long time CFS members. CFS more or less (some would say less) held the space for the first year or so of EVE.

There were repeated border skirmishes between CFS and the old Curse Alliance, and also some with Fountain Alliance, plus frequent encounters with MoO. When the jump gates were added that allowed FA access to the area, FA invaded. This caused a split in the CFS, as the more military minded leaders of the CFS at that time (Percy Loudbottom and Gravedancer) didnt get the full backing of the CFS senate for a war with Fountain. First the politicians practically demanded that CFS leadership negotiate some sort of peace agreement with the FA, and then once it was done they turned around and piled on the poor bastards for negotiating it.

At that time, Black Avatar and several other corps that actually had some pvp backbone left the CFS alliance and formed their own coalition, taking the conquerable stations in JK-Fix region that had just been put in with the previous patch. This coalition would eventually form the foundation of what is today known as the Firmus Ixion alliance (or "Fix" for short, which I believe to be a play on the old region name).

The "fix" corps leaving the CFS was the death knell for the alliance, and since then the space has been controlled by a variety of alliances at one time or another.. Fix, FA, ASCN, and a few others I cant remember that used to settle down in period basis.

Hope that helps...

xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.07.28 23:49:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Randay
I miss those days. This game has becoming increasingly more depressing and upsettings in the last few months.


I have felt this as well, was thinking of the CFS days just recently Very Happy


I think of the CFS days every time I see some political clusterf**k that makes me consider quitting the game again....

Then I go back to just being happy and blowing stuff up without the politics.


xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.07.28 23:56:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Nez Perces

Truth is FIX killed CFS to all intents and purposes... they would have lasted a whole lot longer if we hadn't been there.... primarily cause SA would have intervened, in CFS's favour.



Youre partly right. The "Fix" corps killed CFS, but they did it a long time before that, and without firing a shot.. when they basically turned their backs (some would stay backstabbed) their CFS alliance mates, pulled out of the alliance, and decided they would assume control of the conquerable stations in JK-Fix. Granted, there were legitimate gripes on the part of Madcap Magician, Yodaron, et all, but pulling out of the CFS didnt do anyone any good long term.


xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.07.29 00:06:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: TheHerbster
Pre Bob, I was in Rough-Necks which joined the CFS. At first it all went well down in Querious and Delve and we mined and PvP'd the pirates that would come down there. The problem with CFS was that many of the corps seemed more interested in mining and not protecting the region. When the Conquerable stations became available, CFS got together a tasty little fleet but refused to take them. Some rubbish about politics etc. We saw it an not having any <3

My opinion is that this was the begining of the end for CFS as there seemed very few member corps willing to fight for the space. We had a couple of fights with m0o. We got pwned, but we tried.(Don't get me wrong, a few other CFS corps fought aswell, but nowhere near enough of them had the <3). Eventually, we got completely fed up with the CFS leadership and left. We became pirates and shortly afet m0o asked us to join them.

To me, CFS was a brilliant idea, but it just didn't have the infrastructure, right corps, and leadership to succeed. It was a long time ago, so my memory of the whole debacle may not be correct. But this was how I saw the situation, then and now.


The problem with the CFS was always the leadership structure, not necessarily the few people at the top. The CFS had an elected president and vice president, but behind them was the senate, composed of members of each member corp. Basically, the president and vice president had little authority to do anything major without pushing a law through the senate first.

Hence the problems when the conquerable stations came into the game and FA came calling. The "leadership" (meaning the president, vice president, and the military commanders) wanted to fight FA. The Senate, however, mostly didnt have the spine for it, and instead forced the "leadership" into negotiating a treaty with FA, which basically gave FA the stations, on the condition that CFS policies and laws would be enforced in the space, and CFS corps would maintain docking rights. It was at this point that the Roughnecks and a couple other pvp minded corps pulled out of the CFS. Also, the CFS senior commanders left not long afterwards, probably bent about taking all the flak for a decision they didnt even agree with.


xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2006.07.29 00:08:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Randay
Quote:
QDF was never part of UFS/CFS


Technically... I don't know if I remember exactly, but QDF was formed while CFS still had "formal" control over Q. Even if the name wasn't QDF, it was something else like CFSDF or some crap. It was the same people, name just changed at a point. I remember it was just before FIX formally formed, which would probably mean that it was still CFS territory.


And I thought my memory was poor. Razz

The defense force you speak of was formed though CFS with CFS personnel. It was to become their military wing and Ben Wallace was one of it's commanders, I believe. That force was not related to the QDF, but it was that force that was pushing for war against us, forming the plans for invading Q and attempting to regain control of something CFS had not controlled since the stations were introduced there.



It was all the same people, I know I remember that fact 100% for sure. We flew under CFS, no matter how much contempt we really had for them, then when the time was right we flew under our own flag, and that was that.


Sorry, I still have to disagree. You think that myself, Nez, Droewa, Boldyn, Cougar One, Hicks, HeavyG, Sheppard, Madcap Magician, Levin, etc. flew under a CFS banner? No.

No biggie. History does get fuzzy as we move down the road. Wink


Um.. Yoda you were president of the CFS at one point, and still heavily involved in it even after you "retired". And Madcap was the leader of the CFS Navy at one point. So yes, you all flew under the CFS banner, but it was when you were in the CFS (before you pulled out and formed the QDF)

Hast
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2006.07.29 00:19:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Rover Vitesse
I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D.

Thats Frantik Razz

Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes)

Only guy I know who *single handedely* could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local.

His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary Cool



I remember finding your safe (when probes were released) while I was in shinra and in PB, one or two jumps out of TPAR. You had been afk for a few hours...

when I was setting up on you, you came back and warped off Sad

Nez Perces
Amarr
Metatron Inc.
Posted - 2006.07.29 00:31:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/07/2006 00:31:19

... I do believe there is some confusion over timelines here..

.. Yes there was an entity called CFS defence force where Boldyn was an FC and Pastor Wallace was the man in charge..... however this was short lived and came to an abrubt end when it became obvious that CFS defence force was intent on gaining political power to eventually overthrow Black Avatar and any other entity associated with FA..... (Boldyn resigned on account of the ulterior motives Pastor Wallace had...)

... however this is not to be confused with the Querious Defence Force ..... the Querious Defence Force was a blueprint to enable the inhabitants of Querious (independent of any other entity) to group together and fend off attacks from a variety of groups.. ranging from Mo0 to CA to pirates such as Burn Eden. Whilst initially concieved as a non-political entity (primarily to avoid the torn loyalties existant in Querious, primarily towards Black Avatar), after the CFS wars it became obvious that QDF had evolved into a regional power...... this is when the inhabitants of Querious put their foot down and declared their intentions to govern themselves.. no matter what.

I just got back from the pub and I'm drunk....have a nice evening... Smile



Doppleganger
Minmatar
Band of Builders Inc.
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2006.07.29 01:44:00 - [114]
 

/Me points to the ops thread title and wonder why talk seems to gravitate to what happened in Q space.

Lets get back to what happened in Delve and PB.

Oh and you think I'm bad Nez check out Xenodia that made 5 posts back to back... hehehe Laughing

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.07.29 01:56:00 - [115]
 

Xenodia, I tend to agree with your feelings from that time period. Those CFS corps that did end up leaving and moving into JK-FIX were generally involved in leadership at various points in CFS history. A lot of people held it against us that we had left the CFS... but there honestly is only so much of the Senate that any sane person can handle.

Yoda ofc, is in BA; Percy was in IT, he actually ended up quitting Eve just after we left the CFS when his term in office ended. The experience had drained all the fun out of the game for him. CFS was a great idea, a wonderful dream, but as you say, the structure wasn't there. It really was inevitable that the CFS wouldn't amount to anything over time; the more you were involved in the politics, the clearer the future.

With so few CFS corps interested in actually moving into CFS space, it was time to move on. When we arrived in JK-FIX, we were absolutely sick of alliances, we wanted nothing to do with them again. All the corporations down there were fiercely independant, but at the same time, they were ten times as willing to work together and build a region and a community worth settling down in.

...I wonder if Gravedancer is still around?

Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2006.07.29 01:58:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Doppleganger
/Me points to the ops thread title and wonder why talk seems to gravitate to what happened in Q space.

Lets get back to what happened in Delve and PB.

Oh and you think I'm bad Nez check out Xenodia that made 5 posts back to back... hehehe Laughing

Laughing Good point. At a guess, it's because many of the original residents are still here after all this time.

Doppleganger
Minmatar
Band of Builders Inc.
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2006.07.29 02:04:00 - [117]
 

Now if someone can get the op to ammend this topic as : Devle/PB/Querious pre BOB? or start a new topic : Devle/PB/Querious pre BOB? I'm game


StiZum Hilidii
Gallente
Acta sanctorum
Posted - 2006.07.29 02:08:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Rover Vitesse
I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D.

Thats Frantik Razz

Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes)

Only guy I know who *single handedely* could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local.

His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary Cool



frantik was the best scout you could ever have on an op.most amazing scanner.

i have a couple of memories of delve.

back in the day when the conquerable stations first came in i was a fleet commander of FA in the corporation Xanadu. we had made plans to be online right after dt to get in on the station free for all.
well that was the plan. i slept in Mad
Anyways the fleet goes on anyways and makes it's way to 5-6 which has already been claimed by some corp ( geko or something) we ended up fighting over it for a day or two but in the end it was ours.
i think that day gave tornsoul and sastul one of thier most interesting political experiences in the game. i just shot stuff :).

and that was about it, some m0o killings/ mining :P remember m0o working with tyrell mining in PB.

and thats about it.
lo tornsoul

ItakeItDeep
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2006.07.29 05:16:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Rover Vitesse
I also have memories of a great safespot buster from BIG (this was before scanning probes were released), and sitting at a safespot for more than ten minutes usually meant you were going to be found and killed :D.

Thats Frantik Razz

Makes me proud you guys still recall his skills ("young" ppl need to understand that this was before scan probes)

Only guy I know who *single handedely* could make entire fleets move - Simply by popping up in local.

His safe spot busting skills were/are legendary Cool



frantik was scary Shocked

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Posted - 2006.07.29 05:18:00 - [120]
 

doh


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