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Ghibli Girl
Caldari
Fine Art Manufactury
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:23:00 - [1]
 

Say, I just checked prices and wondered: how come the Hawk is so mutch more expensive than the Harpy when the forum threads all say "Go for Harpy!"?Question

/me wanted to know witch ship you would suggest for lvl3 missions - and what setups - especially: rails vs blasters question..

thx a lot

Dethis
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:27:00 - [2]
 

Demand went up when people wanted to test the new hawk out and thus the prices went up people then realized the new hawk still isnt very good and thus recommend the beautifull AF that is the harpy

Japfury
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:34:00 - [3]
 

although i read alot of the harpy v.s. hawk threads, i still can't understand why one is better than the other. they practically have the same stats, given the same amount of SP in gun & missile, hawk should have the advantage by not needing cap. but then again, what do i know, can someone sum this up for me in one easy to understand sentence plz?

4 LOM
Serenus Legion
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Japfury
although i read alot of the harpy v.s. hawk threads, i still can't understand why one is better than the other. they practically have the same stats, given the same amount of SP in gun & missile, hawk should have the advantage by not needing cap. but then again, what do i know, can someone sum this up for me in one easy to understand sentence plz?


Compare the DPS of the 2 ships and you will see why the harpy is "better" the hawk is now a good ship but just cant put out much damage (i am at work so am not gona crunch any numbers for you but i do know the hawks dps leaves alot to the imagination, *cough* kestral has more dps *cough*)

Dethis
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:38:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Dethis on 12/07/2006 08:38:44
Originally by: Japfury
although i read alot of the harpy v.s. hawk threads, i still can't understand why one is better than the other. they practically have the same stats, given the same amount of SP in gun & missile, hawk should have the advantage by not needing cap. but then again, what do i know, can someone sum this up for me in one easy to understand sentence plz?


though i dont fly Caldari AF's id imagine its due to missile flight time and the low rate of fire of missiles. Although rockets may remedy this but then you have low range, you could also use javelin rockets though and be slow as a brick. But mainly Railguns pull ahead of missiles in pvp

Also the hawks bonus's just dont really justify the ship, its decent just not as good as the harpy

Ghibli Girl
Caldari
Fine Art Manufactury
Posted - 2006.07.12 08:43:00 - [6]
 

Well then I go for the Harpy.. dps for real!!
thx

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2006.07.12 09:41:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 12/07/2006 09:46:01
Harpy = better DPS.

Hawk = better tank.

That's really all there is to it. If you want pure DPS, get a harpy. On the other hand, if you want a ship that can soak up a disproportionate amount of damage, the Hawk is your ride of choice.

I fly a hawk, btw, and don't really want to swap for a Harpy anytime soon.

EDIT: oh, and the hawk's considerably cheaper, meaning you should always be able to afford one.

Permian
Posted - 2006.07.12 10:40:00 - [8]
 

the hawk has 2 lows, 4 meds, and 4 highs

the harpy has 2 lows, 4 meds, and 5 highs

what does the hawk have to make up for that missing slot??

Lyra VX
Pretty Riders
Posted - 2006.07.12 10:44:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Lyra VX on 12/07/2006 10:46:16
The Hawk has 5 highs (4M, 2T) - the Item DB appears not to have been properly updated.


 

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