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TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.06.24 20:11:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: TornSoul on 25/07/2006 20:42:06Edited by: TornSoul on 16/07/2006 20:57:05 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.BIG will once again host betting for the Alliance tournament. This time the 2nd Caldari Championships (CC2) The CC2 website is now live, and you can start making your bets!!! So - What excactly do we offer? We offer the standard "bet on the team you think will win overall", but also a range of other bet types (who'll make it out of their group etc). Go take a look on the site. The betting option I find most interesting, and which I hope alot will try out, is the option to make your own dream team!!! Could be fun  Apart from the betting we naturally also supply the full schedule for the tournament, and group makeups, and pilotnames!! (thanks LeMonde). Lots of info there - And all in one place! Go have a look around. PS: The website is still missing a few odd bits (tables) here and there, which I simply havent had the time to get done (the whole process got rather delayed due to the tournament changes...) Those that are missing, are not really important for your betting needs as such, and are simply me wanting to provide as much 'trivia' about the tournament as possible. I should get it all there by the weekend. PPS: The site can be accessed in a number of ways... http://www.BIG-EVE.com/CC2 (the easy one to recall) http://big.wayland.dk/CC2 (almost as easy) http://82.147.248.98/CC2 (the impossible one) I'm mentioning these different ways due to the server issues we've been having of late. If the first two links doesnt work - The last one should (different servers) |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.06.24 20:43:00 - [ 2]
I think by D you mean semi-finals since 8 teams make it to quarter finals What I really want is to be able to bet on individual matches. Any way you (or anyone) could swing that ? |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.06.24 20:59:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I think by D you mean semi-finals since 8 teams make it to quarter finals
Doh - Fixed. Thanks Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
What I really want is to be able to bet on individual matches.
Any way you (or anyone) could swing that ?
Yaeh.. And I'd love to be able to offer it as well. The problem is, not very many actually bet... (I've been doing this a couple of times already so I know...) Meaning you'd most likely end up with having no counterbet against your bet (and any given individual game). And thus, couldnt win any ISK anyhow, as we cant do this "odd's based", as setting up the odds for each an every fight really isnt viable for various reasons. So we have to try and keep the bets to stuff where the chance of bets/counterbets are the greatest. |
Trevedian
Amarr
Shaolin Monks
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Posted - 2006.06.24 21:01:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Trevedian on 24/06/2006 21:02:54Nevermind, you answered my question when I was in the process of posting... I'd bet the farm against Fountain Alliance when they face The Red Skull in round 1...  |
Larsson7
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2006.06.25 00:53:00 - [ 5]
Can you give me odds on a 500 Million isk bet on MC topping their group?
If you are serious about giving odds then gimmie a price, please. |
IVeige
Caldari
IVever.
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Posted - 2006.06.25 02:31:00 - [ 6]
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/gambling_addiction.htm   |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.06.25 05:12:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Larsson7
Can you give me odds on a 500 Million isk bet on MC topping their group?
If you are serious about giving odds then gimmie a price, please.
I'll gladly take your bet. But as I mentioned in my last post (perhaps it wasnt very clear) I cant give you any odd's as such. For you to actually win any ISK on that particular bet, it requires that someone bets against you (ie. is betting on someone else to top the group). Should no one make a counterbet - You'll simply get your ISK back. Then ofc - Someone just might bet against you seeing just how much they could win (if you bet 500M) on the off chance an upset would happen ISK you'd then win (possible split with others making the same bet), if youre right about your bet. |
IVeige
Caldari
IVever.
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Posted - 2006.06.25 06:35:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: IVeige on 25/06/2006 06:37:58Can you split your lottery reward please ? i mean divide it alot so i can finnaly win something  |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.06.25 07:31:00 - [ 9]
What we really need is a very well promoted channel where we can do sidebets.
TS, can you guys hold ISK for those and maybe run the channel ? |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.07.03 13:18:00 - [ 10]
Guess that's a NO ¬_¬ |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.03 16:58:00 - [ 11]
Sorry Tyrrax for the (non) late reply. I've kinda been putting it of, as I've been trying to figure out a way to make it possible. No luck I'm afraid... (hence the delya, as I'd have prefered to say "But ofc") I simply cant gurantee that we'll have people around for the duration of all the fights, to take on such bets. Sorry... But I'd love to |
Discodude
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:13:00 - [ 12]
ok so thoise are the ideas etc. and now that hte set up in finalized and all the teams are in are you gonna officially open for ppl to place bets? |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.05 21:31:00 - [ 13]
Site is now live.
Text of first post has been replaced. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.07.05 21:49:00 - [ 14]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 05/07/2006 21:49:35
Very nice job TornSoul.
Hm, not giving odds on each team ? :) |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.06 20:28:00 - [ 15]
Thanks Tyrrax
Sadly not a single bet yet....
Too complicated? (adding the extra ISK to "mark" what kinda bet it is)
People getting turned away by that? |
RangerXT
Caldari
Debitum Naturae
THE KLINGONS |
Posted - 2006.07.07 09:06:00 - [ 16]
yeah, I like totally don't know how to make it known who I'm betting on. I understand the 'where to wire' part but nothing else. |
Dyntheos
Amarr
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2006.07.07 12:24:00 - [ 17]
So, the (1) and (2) bets are going to seperate pools? |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.07 23:28:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: RangerXT
yeah, I like totally don't know how to make it known who I'm betting on. I understand the 'where to wire' part but nothing else.
Hmmm... I'll try to come up with a diff way of explaining it.. It's tricky though.. since we offer several kinds of bets and not just the "who will win it all".... Originally by: Dyntheos
So, the (1) and (2) bets are going to seperate pools?
Correct. Due to the different deadlines for making the bet. Bet (2)'s you can in theory wait making until you know all the teams who will move on from the groups (ie. once the groups "scores" are settled") - Thus "narrowing down the field" a bit (alot) Not to mention, by then youll have much more facts (by, say watching EVE-TV) to make your call on. |
Pilk
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2006.07.11 15:50:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: Pilk on 11/07/2006 15:51:08
How about a little javascript calculator (or, better yet, an IGB-compatible form) to help people ensure they're sending the right amount of isk? I know I had to triple-check my number before sending it and I had to flip between two or three pages and between Eve and Firefox to do so.
And is there any way we can get a bet confirmation or some other means to make sure our money didn't vanish into the ether? You've got tens of millions of isk from me and I'd like to make sure it's in the right pool.
--P |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2006.07.12 17:35:00 - [ 20]
TS, how about some numbers, how much has been bet and on who ? ;P |
Trevedian
Amarr
Shaolin Monks
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Posted - 2006.07.12 18:19:00 - [ 21]
I agree with Tyrrax, I'd like a little transparency before I bet my isk... |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.13 19:50:00 - [ 22]
Current pool (of all bet types) as at 412M ISK Not nearly enough to make it really exiting imo... Having a sticky in events forum just dont get as many reads as having one in the corp forum as OZ has. (OZ is taking bets as well - On winning team only though - Which probably also makes it a bit easier for ppl to figure out how to make their bet) I'd like to 'pimp' the dreamteam betting a bit. Sofar only one dreamteam has been made - and with a hefty 50M ISK bet as well. Now - With just a *little* bit of care, it should be pretty easy to come up with a dreamteam yourself, who'd stand a pretty good chance of beating that other team (as theres only the one sofar) So - What'cha waiting for I'll also try and find the time to get the site updated with some more numbers - Now that the first bets have been made (so that theres actually something to show |
Ray McCormack
Caldari
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 01:02:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: TornSoul
Having a sticky in events forum just dont get as many reads as having one in the corp forum
And the award for best dropped hint of the year goes to... |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.15 21:13:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: TornSoul on 15/07/2006 21:13:12
Remember that it is still possible to make bets with BIG betting.
We have special bets that can be played up until the start of the 2nd round - Including betting on who you think will win.
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TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.16 19:16:00 - [ 25]
Edited by: TornSoul on 16/07/2006 19:19:46A quick update on the bets made with BIG betting. Note that bets 2 and 6 are still open for betting!! A total of 768M ISK for all bets combined. Sadly only one dreamteam was ever bet on - So that ISK will simply get returned. (that goes for any bet not having a counterbet). I'm quite disappointed by that tbh.. Oh well...
Who will win overall (1) (No further betting accepted)
Bet 1
Total bets : 178.000.000 ISK
.
Black Reign Syndicate 100,000,000 ISK
Band of Brothers 38,000,000 ISK
Mercenary Coalition 10,000,000 ISK
Ascendant Frontier 10,000,000 ISK
KAOS Empire 10,000,000 ISK
Dusk and Dawn 5,000,000 ISK
GoonSwarm 5,000,000 ISK
.
.
Who will win overall (2) (Betting still accepted)
Bet 2
Total bets : 118.000.000 ISK
.
Morsus Mihi 100,000,000 ISK
The Five 10,000,000 ISK
Band of Brothers 8,000,000 ISK
.
.
Who will win a particular group (1) (No further betting accepted)
Bet 3
Total bets : 85.000.000 ISK
.
Ascendant Frontier 30,000,000 ISK
3rd Front Alliance 10,000,000 ISK
The Five 5,000,000 ISK
Veritas Immortalis 5,000,000 ISK
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate 5,000,000 ISK
Mercenary Coalition 5,000,000 ISK
The Red Skull 5,000,000 ISK
Aegis Militia 5,000,000 ISK
Axiom Empire 5,000,000 ISK
T R U S T 5,000,000 ISK
KAOS Empire 5,000,000 ISK
.
.
Who will make it to round 2 (the two best placed of each group) (1)(No further betting accepted)
Bet 4
Total bets : 182.000.000 ISK
.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate 100,000,000 ISK
Ascendant Frontier 30,000,000 ISK
Morsus Mihi 25,000,000 ISK
Axiom Empire 10,000,000 ISK
Band of Brothers 6,000,000 ISK
Mercenary Coalition 6,000,000 ISK
3rd Front Alliance 5,000,000 ISK
.
.
Who will make it to the semifinals (1)(No further betting accepted)
Bet 5
Total bets : 75.000.000 ISK
.
Ascendant Frontier 30,000,000 ISK
Black Reign Syndicate 25,000,000 ISK
Axiom Empire 10,000,000 ISK
Mercenary Coalition 5,000,000 ISK
KAOS Empire 5,000,000 ISK
.
.
Who will make it to the semifinals (2) (Betting still accepted)
Bet 6
Total bets : 130.000.000 ISK
.
Band of Brothers 55,000,000 ISK
Morsus Mihi 50,000,000 ISK
The Five 15,000,000 ISK
SMASH Alliance 10,000,000 ISK
.
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(1) Bets have to be made before round 1 starts (2006.06.14 15:00) (No further betting accepted)
(2) Bets have to be made before round 2 starts (2006.06.23 15:00) (Betting still accepted)
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M4sterm1nd
Caldari
The Grimreapers.
Destiny Corrupted. |
Posted - 2006.07.16 20:29:00 - [ 26]
I cant get the site to work, is it down?  |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.16 20:56:00 - [ 27]
Edited by: TornSoul on 16/07/2006 20:58:05Works fine for me...Its not IGB compatible btw - So use an out of game browser. |
Ra'Vir
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.07.17 00:21:00 - [ 28]
Could you clarify something about the rules? In your example you state:
"If your bet is 900K ISK, and the sum of counterbets is 1M ISK then your winnings would be 1M ISK - 100K ISK (10%) = 900K ISK. In this case excactly your ISK back."
Do you mean you get 900K winnings and your original 900K bet money back? Or would BIG be pocketing 53% of the total cash in this bet? |
TornSoul
Gallente
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement |
Posted - 2006.07.17 00:50:00 - [ 29]
You would ofc get a total of 1.8M ISK back - Thus comming out 900K on top.
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Ra'Vir
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.07.17 01:41:00 - [ 30]
Okay, thanks. It didn't mention getting your original bet back on the rules page so I wasn't sure. Don't want to make any assumptions about the rules. |
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