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Spartan239
Caldari
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:09:00 - [331]
 

Originally by: Rthor
Edited by: Rthor on 26/06/2006 17:09:02
This world cup could not go on without Italy in it.


Rolling Eyes

Luc Boye
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:11:00 - [332]
 


Semblence
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:11:00 - [333]
 

Oh and don't forget the current corruption investigation in Italy's domestic league.

They just can't help themselves, whatever level of the game, they just have to cheat somehow!

(he got the red card for violent conduct, a two-footed lunge on the opposition player, let's not start this debate again)

Spartan239
Caldari
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:12:00 - [334]
 

Originally by: Luc Boye
Crucial inside information Aussies missed


Laughing

so true

Rthor
Gallente
Smugglers Inc.
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:14:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: Semblence
Oh and don't forget the current corruption investigation in Italy's domestic league.

They just can't help themselves, whatever level of the game, they just have to cheat somehow!

(he got the red card for violent conduct, a two-footed lunge on the opposition player, let's not start this debate again)



That was not a straight red.

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:15:00 - [336]
 

it couldn't be an aussie game without a rediculous ref decision. Shame a good gameup till that point had to end like that, I'm pretty ****ed off.

Crux Australis
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:25:00 - [337]
 

Hum I feel the aura of hate, heh.

Imho you can *****, whine and call us cheaters till hell freezes, that won't change the fact that we got sanctioned with a ridicolous red card and played half of the match in 10.

On the specific matter, would *I* have sanctioned this penalty?
No.

But if you look at how the referee ran the whole match (he sanctioned fouls even when some random fan farted on the tribunes), you should see from where this penalty comes from.
To make it shorter: the referee sanctioned everything even remotely resembling a foul (on both sides) and this episode felt right into his 'sanctionable' cathegory.

And yes, it could have happened in Australia's favour as well.
Thank god there have been no tackles near our goalkeeper.

Should Australia have won the match?
If this were Boxe, yes.
But it's football.

Such is life, wanna cry more?
Be my guest.


P.S.
How long till the accusations of fascism and connivence with international criminal organizations to win the cup or whatever else?Razz

Spartan239
Caldari
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:28:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Crux Australis

Such is life, wanna cry more?
Be my guest.



Not as much as all the Italians I know cried when they lost to the side Hiddink managed four years ago

Crux Australis
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:34:00 - [339]
 

Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Crux Australis

Such is life, wanna cry more?
Be my guest.



Not as much as all the Italians I know cried when they lost to the side Hiddink managed four years ago


Taking it personal?
Laughing

Spartan239
Caldari
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:37:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Crux Australis
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Crux Australis

Such is life, wanna cry more?
Be my guest.



Not as much as all the Italians I know cried when they lost to the side Hiddink managed four years ago


Taking it personal?
Laughing


No, just kinda funny how much you all cried then and how you have to dive vs australia to win when your such a great sporting nation Rolling Eyes

Mather Maelstrom
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Coalition Of Empires
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:39:00 - [341]
 

Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 26/06/2006 17:39:59
Quote:
Hum I feel the aura of hate, heh.

Imho you can *****, whine and call us cheaters till hell freezes,


We call the Italian football team cheaters in this case. I doubt anyone here hates all Italians now for what their football team does. That would be silly anyways.
Let me ask you, the way they just won the match does it bring pride to your country?

Saladin
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:44:00 - [342]
 

I do agree the PK was not fair, but I cannot hide that I am absolutely delighted that Hiddink was defeated by wrong call. The ref helped him beat Spain in 2002, and its nice to know that what goes around comes around.

Nira Li
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2006.06.26 17:45:00 - [343]
 

Tbh every team has divers and try to cheat when they can...

Hakuin
Viziam
Posted - 2006.06.26 18:23:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: Mather Maelstrom
Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 26/06/2006 17:39:59
Quote:
Hum I feel the aura of hate, heh.

Imho you can *****, whine and call us cheaters till hell freezes,


We call the Italian football team cheaters in this case. I doubt anyone here hates all Italians now for what their football team does. That would be silly anyways.
Let me ask you, the way they just won the match does it bring pride to your country?


Sorry, but you don't know nothing about italian football team Very Happy. We HATE our football team, be pride? lol. We have some good players but they have a bad mentality and play like me (very bad Laughing). There are few people that support our football team right now in Italy.

Yes I like when we win, but be pride...we can do better of this.


Spartan2345678910: Italians love you too m8, but we are so immature Crying or Very sad

PS: Don't take seriouslly all the **** that coming from italians newpapers/television Very Happy

Semblence
Posted - 2006.06.26 19:12:00 - [345]
 

Blimey, membership of the "we don't like the Italian national team" club extends to Italians too now!

Anyway, moving on....

Who is going to win out of France vs Spain? I didn't see Togo vs France but I do know that Zidane didn't play and France and Henry started to look good all of a sudden. Has Zizou played his last game for France?

VinLieger
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.06.26 19:32:00 - [346]
 

Hey is there a channel to chat about the world cup in game while the matches are on?

Na'Thuul
Caldari
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.06.26 20:13:00 - [347]
 

world cup can be summed up in two words... "Who cares...."

VinLieger
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.06.26 20:13:00 - [348]
 

im gonna guess the above poster is american or a woman

babyblue
Posted - 2006.06.26 20:23:00 - [349]
 

Originally by: VinLieger
im gonna guess the above poster is american or a woman


...or a complete Nerd. They don't like sport much either Laughing

VinLieger
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.06.26 20:46:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: VinLieger
im gonna guess the above poster is american or a woman


...or a complete Nerd. They don't like sport much either Laughing


then how the hell did this thread get started here? RazzRazz

Na'Thuul
Caldari
Veto Corp
Posted - 2006.06.26 22:50:00 - [351]
 

you call 22 overpaid, grown men running around on a lawn kicking a ball sport? meh...

Spartan239
Caldari
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Posted - 2006.06.26 23:00:00 - [352]
 

Originally by: Na'Thuul
you call 22 overpaid, grown men running around on a lawn kicking a ball sport? meh...


Rolling Eyes If you think thats football you clearly dont watch much

Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
Posted - 2006.06.26 23:57:00 - [353]
 

One of my corp mates is swiss...

Iv'e just had to soak up the tears of dispear...

Ohh dear, i was trying to reassure him that if it wasn't for the free kick... england would have been playing till midnight tooVery Happy

Lyra VX
Pretty Riders
Posted - 2006.06.27 00:37:00 - [354]
 

Originally by: Na'Thuul
you call 22 overpaid, grown men running around on a lawn kicking a ball sport? meh...

Why are you posting stuff like this? Is it trolling?

In short:
- Materazzi shouldn't have been sent off.
- It wasn't a penalty.
- That said, Italy were undoubtedly the better team.
- That said, fantastic effort from the Aussies.
- Ukraine and Switzerland need shooting.

So say I, etc.

Siren Shiva
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.06.27 08:40:00 - [355]
 

Edited by: Siren Shiva on 27/06/2006 08:40:13
Originally by: Galk
One of my corp mates is swiss...

Iv'e just had to soak up the tears of dispear...


I'm swiss too.

Losing a penalty battle after having been unbeaten, with no goal taken, for 4 matches, is the ultra suck. Evil or Very Mad What makes it suck even more is the fact that our boys had the skill to win the penalty match too, but were too nervous. They did not miss during training...

Scots Crusader
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.06.27 08:45:00 - [356]
 

That may account for the reason they played for penalties then. That match was terrible, I think I have been mentally scarred by it. during the 2nd half, a frontal lobotamy was looking like more fun for me. both teams lokede too scared to be beaten, rather than trying to win the match........A STINKERSad

Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
Posted - 2006.06.27 08:53:00 - [357]
 

I think it was more the disapointing effort to not attempt to win the game against probaly the weakest team (aside the guys we beat).

From what i got last night, that was it.

It sounded rather sad tbh.... i was trying to reassure with the fact thats probaly going to be us next weekEmbarassed


Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2006.06.27 08:55:00 - [358]
 

Switzerland v Ukraine

Worst. Game. Ever.

Siren Shiva
Minmatar
Posted - 2006.06.27 09:09:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: Scots Crusader
That may account for the reason they played for penalties then. That match was terrible, I think I have been mentally scarred by it. during the 2nd half, a frontal lobotamy was looking like more fun for me. both teams lokede too scared to be beaten, rather than trying to win the match........A STINKERSad


Some parts were horrible, others pretty good... the extension for example was not bad at all. Problem was that both teams had a strong and active defense, and they hindered each other's offense so much that goal chances were rare. Kinda reminded me of the Switzerland - France match which ended 0:0 as well, strong defenses on both sides prevented the goalgetters from getting any good chances.

Thats how football works nowadays, more focus on defense, less goals. The days of 5:7 matches are long gone. Rolling Eyes

Scots Crusader
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2006.06.27 10:45:00 - [360]
 

Originally by: Siren Shiva
Originally by: Scots Crusader
That may account for the reason they played for penalties then. That match was terrible, I think I have been mentally scarred by it. during the 2nd half, a frontal lobotamy was looking like more fun for me. both teams lokede too scared to be beaten, rather than trying to win the match........A STINKERSad


Some parts were horrible, others pretty good... the extension for example was not bad at all. Problem was that both teams had a strong and active defense, and they hindered each other's offense so much that goal chances were rare. Kinda reminded me of the Switzerland - France match which ended 0:0 as well, strong defenses on both sides prevented the goalgetters from getting any good chances.

Thats how football works nowadays, more focus on defense, less goals. The days of 5:7 matches are long gone. Rolling Eyes




Ah, the good old days. 2-3-5 formations. My dad told me about them, how there was more goals. I argued steady this was b***dy obvious as 5 forwards against 2 defenders was a bit of a mis-match.Very Happy

Back to last nights game. I am all for good defensive work, but that cannot be the only aspect to your game. Both teams refused to commit any men forward. 2 banks of 4 in front of the keepers almost all the time. This is not good defensive work, this is playing for a draw... in a knockout stage??? IMHO fear of loosing should not be paramount over the will to win. I would rather see a team I support loose 3-2 having a go, than loose on penalties having tried nothing. both teams had good forwards, but with no support they were never going to trouble the opps defense.


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