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Jeru salem
Posted - 2006.06.09 16:11:00 - [301]
 

Originally by: Malibu Stacey
Originally by: Jeru salem

I apologize for my ignorance, but does this mean you, or anyone else, does NOT have access to my user name and password? When my user name and password are used to retrieve my character data from myeve.eve-online.com, is it encrypted or sent in clear text? Is it stored in clear text anywhere?

Thanks for your support,
Jeru


How many times is this question going to be asked? Do the 20 or so replies on the last 9 pages of this thread to the same question disappear for some people?

If you're worried about someone taking your login information when you use an open source tool which has been stickied by the forum moderators then either don't use it or try being a little less amazingly paranoid.


1. I did read quite a few posts before asking, but not all 250+ (sorry i missed the 20 you mentioned)
2. I did search for "EVEMon Password" and got:
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=344331
(sorry, still no warm fuzzy)
3. Just needed to personally do due diligence (to the best of my ability) before I recommend this to others.
4. Wouldn't want to do anything that would jeopardize security for my corp (the manual mode would satisfy this at the expense of convenience)
5. Before I give 1-Million ISK over for a job well done, I'd like to have a warm fuzzy I'm not aiding and abetting the dark side
(only been playing for around 2 months so this isn't an insignificant amount of ISK for me to give)
6. AGAIN! - Please accept my humble apologies for being IGNORANT Embarassed and therefore "amazingly paranoid" in a world full of hackers and EVE-Scam-Artists.

Thanks for the (flaming) education on this matter - I apologize for any pain, frustration, or trauma this quest-ion seems to have caused.
Take care...
Jeru

Berious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.06.10 01:55:00 - [302]
 

If you're super paranoid you can just import the XML file from My Character. More legwork but it works.

Jeru salem
Posted - 2006.06.10 04:35:00 - [303]
 

Originally by: Berious
If you're super paranoid you can just import the XML file from My Character. More legwork but it works.

Yes, I realize that the manual mode makes my question a mute point. Anders post, with an actual example of password encryption was much appreciated and has put my mind at ease. I've been using EVEMon for about a month now, utilizing the auto updates functionality despite my level of uncertainty. The functionality and quality outweighed the risk for me personally. However, I want to highly recommend it to others in my corp so that is primarily why I really wanted to qualify it to the best of my abilities. Please consider the matter closed as far as I'm concerned.

~Jeru

Fusaiyuki
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Coalition Of Empires
Posted - 2006.06.10 15:28:00 - [304]
 

Mix between a bug and a feature request here, but:

1. Could you make an option to put the OK button on the left and Cancel on the right, having them inverted really confuses me and I keep hitting the wrong one.

2. With skill group expanded on the main page it scrolls in the most ******ed way if you use a mousewheel. It's tremendously confusing, the only way I can tell where I just scrolled to is to look at the bar on the right. For some reason every time I scroll a single step with the wheel it goes back to the top and scrolls down to where I am.

Elrich Zann
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Posted - 2006.06.11 12:04:00 - [305]
 

First I want to say thank you for a very good monitor. While the interface is fairly simple, the plan feature is incredible. Very simple to use and the suggestion/implant features are great. One small request, in the plan feature where it shows the date the skill will finish is it possible to add the day of the week too? So we can see if a skill ends on Sunday or Monday?

Malibu Stacey
Gallente
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Posted - 2006.06.11 13:29:00 - [306]
 

Originally by: Fusaiyuki
2. With skill group expanded on the main page it scrolls in the most ******ed way if you use a mousewheel. It's tremendously confusing, the only way I can tell where I just scrolled to is to look at the bar on the right. For some reason every time I scroll a single step with the wheel it goes back to the top and scrolls down to where I am.

Works fine for me as you would expect. I use it on WinXP here at home & Win2k at work & the scroll wheel works the same as any other application. I have .net 1.1 & 2.0 runtimes installed on both machines I use EveMon on. It could be your mouse drivers though. Might want to try it with the generic driver if you have a manufacturer supplied driver installed or vice-versa.

Originally by: Elrich Zann
First I want to say thank you for a very good monitor. While the interface is fairly simple, the plan feature is incredible. Very simple to use and the suggestion/implant features are great. One small request, in the plan feature where it shows the date the skill will finish is it possible to add the day of the week too? So we can see if a skill ends on Sunday or Monday?


It already shows the date & exact time the skill will finish. Not sure if the date functions in C# or whatever Evemon is written in will return a day for a given date so it may be more trouble than it's worth.

Six Anari
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2006.06.12 14:58:00 - [307]
 

Edited by: Six Anari on 12/06/2006 14:59:08
Originally by: Malibu Stacey

I apologize for my ignorance, but does this mean you, or anyone else, does NOT have access to my user name and password? When my user name and password are used to retrieve my character data from myeve.eve-online.com, is it encrypted or sent in clear text? Is it stored in clear text anywhere?



It is sent to myeve.eve-online.com in exactly the same way it is when you log in to the EVE website through your web browser. Your password is only transmitted over an HTTPS connection, so it can't be sniffed off the network. This is the only time your username or password are ever sent anywhere. It is never sent to me, nor to anyone else.

The password is stored in an encrypted format in the EVEMon settings file so you don't have to re-enter it every time you restart EVEMon. As a caveat though, keep in mind that this encryption is merely intended to deter someone from casually grabbing the password from the file. Because of the fact that EVEMon itself has to be able to decrypt the password in the settings file (so it can use it to log in to the EVE-O website and get your character data), it means that someone else could decrypt the password from it too, but only if they got ahold of your settings file. As such, you should treat your EVEMon settings file as private and never share it with anyone.

And it's alright to ask about it, you are perfectly justified in being paranoid about your account security. Smile

Katherim
Posted - 2006.06.12 20:54:00 - [308]
 

Too, i dont use any of these programs. I have scared about these programs transmit my password out of my computer.

Jaka
Posted - 2006.06.15 18:06:00 - [309]
 

It's open source, what more can you ask for?

Trixie Naguma
Gallente
Posted - 2006.06.16 03:05:00 - [310]
 

I love this program. I have tried another one but found EVEMon to be more user friendly and the updates work 100% of the time. I found that unless I deleted the char from another one I was using it wouldn't update, kept getting max XML used etc.

EVEMon is my choice for watching skill training, I have given the link and told my corp about the program as well and we have about 5 using it and they love it. One guy owns about 7chars so this makes it a lot better for him.

Keep up the good work Six and thanks for all you and the team have done.

Sylaan
Caldari
Rakeriku
Otaku Invasion
Posted - 2006.06.16 15:02:00 - [311]
 

Edited by: Sylaan on 16/06/2006 15:06:33
Six, excellent piece of work. Thank you for sharing it with us Wink

I know this has been mentioned by someone else but I would also like to request the FTP upload feature as well. It would be really nice to be able to upload an HTML export of the skill plan(s), skillpoint list, attributes, etc. This was one of the nice features of ECM.

Namarus
Gallente
Posted - 2006.06.17 15:23:00 - [312]
 

Any chance of getting a statistics page or something.

Giving info like:

Average skill points per skill
Skills at Level 5, Level 4, Level .....
Number of Level 5 ranks

Stuff like that.

Amarria Lightwielder
Amarr
N.A.G.A Corporation
Posted - 2006.06.18 16:55:00 - [313]
 

this program is AWESOME! :)
I don't know how I ever did without it. No more logging on all my accounts to check skills, and the planner is just great.
Nice work!

Landuril
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2006.06.19 19:05:00 - [314]
 

Thanks for this. I'll be donating for your efforts!

Lojik
Enlightened Industries
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2006.06.20 03:22:00 - [315]
 

The best and only true planning software out there and a real benifit to the Eve community, Many thanks Six.

Lojik


SquiggFSM
CyberDyne Industries
Posted - 2006.06.21 16:42:00 - [316]
 

EVEMon has not been picking up any implants since the patch, but then neither is the EMD, so this is most likely an XML File error or change - this problem also affects the My Character page of the EVE website.

Everything seems ok in game however...

cryptic edge
Caldari
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
Posted - 2006.06.21 21:24:00 - [317]
 

its not been able to retrieve the data after this last patch for me :( i know the char sheet is up (tested a few min ago) but it still makes things more difficult if its not going to update for me. Seems this happens for about 2 days each patch too...

Liquid Vision
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2006.06.22 04:04:00 - [318]
 

EVEMon doesn't recognize my implants automatically now. Is that a new thing since the patch or did I screw something up? Yes, I still have the implants in my head and I haven't been podded. Thanks in advance.

LV

Cringeley
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2006.06.22 09:32:00 - [319]
 

Thank you, Six. EveMON makes managing five characters possible.

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2006.06.22 13:53:00 - [320]
 

I got a proposition for you guys.

If I wrote a scheduler for EVEMon that would schedule skill training order such that skills would only complete traing during the hours of a day/week that you were able to log in and select the next one...would one - or some - of you make a subtantial ISK donation to me? Think Outlook's calendar/meeting scheduler (maybe not that advanced on the first version). You select the parts of the day where you're asleep/at work etc and it schedules your skills around those so that they jump your downtimes so you can always start the next skill. I know I want this feature, and I think I saw someone else asking for it...

Payment on delivery of course...

Anders Chydenius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2006.06.22 16:12:00 - [321]
 

Good luck Xaen, I'm still waiting on payment for the mineral worksheet.

If you want to contribute to evemon, head over to the forums, that's where most of the chit and/or chat gets done.

Personally, I write modules that I find interesting, and if someone else gets some use out of them, then that's great, but I'm not trying to get paid for this thing.

... which is not to say that I'd turn away donations. Daddy needs a HAC.

Trisja takkanova
Posted - 2006.06.22 17:23:00 - [322]
 

Hey Love the program :D downloaded it yesterday and everything worked fine, but now today it dosn't work Confused shows me an error about an invalid username/password, i know I entered it correctly, any thughts ?

Joskken Inx
the unified
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2006.06.22 18:56:00 - [323]
 

This program is more than worth its salt. Granted the patches seem to be a bump in the road, but I can see where my char can be in a week, three months, whenever and whatever plan I want!
Good job!

Araigadai
Amarr
Posted - 2006.06.22 23:22:00 - [324]
 

Originally by: Trisja takkanova
Hey Love the program :D downloaded it yesterday and everything worked fine, but now today it dosn't work Confused shows me an error about an invalid username/password, i know I entered it correctly, any thoughts ?


Works now! :D

Is there anyway to get the program to use our portraits from the Eve directory? Portraits from My Character/Forums still aren't working... Shocked

Also, it would be nice to have the sorting not take into account training times < X mins, with X being user selectable. I don't see me losing sleep over whether or not I can train something in 9 mins rather than 15 mins. Getting whatever advantage I can from a Lvl 1 or 2 skill is worth more to me. besides, I'll be losing more time than that by missing training end times. ( and when I go camping in a few weeks :/. I'm hoping I have a >14day skill to rain by then... ugh )

Keshi Linegod
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2006.06.24 20:20:00 - [325]
 

Any update on the proublem with inplants? I just noticed it today after I got my computer back working from a week of down time.

Anders Chydenius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2006.06.25 20:20:00 - [326]
 

Originally by: Keshi Linegod
Any update on the proublem with inplants? I just noticed it today after I got my computer back working from a week of down time.


When ccp puts them back in the xml data, they'll be back in evemon. Until then, you'll need to set them manually.

Gharib Ghar
Posted - 2006.06.26 04:42:00 - [327]
 

Edited by: Gharib Ghar on 26/06/2006 04:56:55
been hearing great things about your program. Too bad it doesn't want to work for me. I tried downloading the installer. That didn't work out, then i tried downloading the binaries. That didn't work either.Sad e-mail me at [email protected]

Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2006.06.26 07:26:00 - [328]
 

My corpmate tested EVEmon with firewall. It connecting to :
http://207.44.198.28/
http://static.evercrest.com/

If you cut this connection by firewall - there will be no updates on character skills, etc.

Why manager not connecting to EVE site directly ?

Anders Chydenius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2006.06.26 15:28:00 - [329]
 

Originally by: Evil Thug
My corpmate tested EVEmon with firewall. It connecting to :
http://207.44.198.28/
http://static.evercrest.com/

If you cut this connection by firewall - there will be no updates on character skills, etc.

Why manager not connecting to EVE site directly ?


207.44.198.28 IS static.evercrest.com, so we're only connecting to one site there.

Evemon checks for updates when it starts up, and the site is hosted at evercrest.com. My guess is that this is the traffic that your corpmate is noticing. Perhaps you would feel safer if we released a version with optional automatic updates?

If you look closely at those packets, there's nothing nefarious in them.

DarkSith
Amarr
Posted - 2006.06.26 15:29:00 - [330]
 

Originally by: Xaen
I got a proposition for you guys.

If I wrote a scheduler for EVEMon that would schedule skill training order such that skills would only complete traing during the hours of a day/week that you were able to log in and select the next one...would one - or some - of you make a subtantial ISK donation to me? Think Outlook's calendar/meeting scheduler (maybe not that advanced on the first version). You select the parts of the day where you're asleep/at work etc and it schedules your skills around those so that they jump your downtimes so you can always start the next skill. I know I want this feature, and I think I saw someone else asking for it...

Payment on delivery of course...


I would be interested in something like that if the price is right.


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