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Sylvius
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:07:00 - [1]
 

This topic appears quite often on these boards, but no one ever bothers to explain why AFK Miners are so hated.

Why is AFK Mining an activity worthy of scorn?

SavageRabbit
Aliastra
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:08:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: SavageRabbit on 04/09/2003 00:08:47
In my opinion its not.

But at the same time you aint got a leg to stand on if it all goes wrong.

Digital Sin
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:11:00 - [3]
 

its because they arent actually playing the game, but letting it play itself for a few hours while they go do something else. of course its always funny to see an AFK miner get vaped ;D

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:26:00 - [4]
 

I donīt have any problems with afk-miners at all. They just shouldnīt complain, whine or moan around after being blasted to pieces by anyone who just feels like it. Just donīt expect your ship to be safe when you go afk.

DJvGalen
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:28:00 - [5]
 

I have no beef with afk miners, I usually let them be.

2 days ago, however, some afk miner parked his indy near my battleship while I was helping someone to mine and I think about 10 minutes after he went afk I ate up the rock he was mining... When I left about 2 hours later his ship was still sitting still in the same location.

It made a good laugh that night Laughing

NTRabbit
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:35:00 - [6]
 

AFK mining with an indy and one mining laser is fine, but like they say above its your own fault if something happens while you are gone. The AFK mining that most complain about is the one involving a battleship/cruiser doing the mining and using a macro to drag the ore a container so the cargo never fills, and active haulers can collect it anytime they like. That form of AFK mining is against the EULA.

SavageRabbit
Aliastra
Posted - 2003.09.04 00:53:00 - [7]
 

Just this second seen a presumably AFK miner start on a roid. I then saw his bestower continur past the roid and out into the distance.

Lost view of him a few minutes ago.

The moral of the story...

If you're gonna AFK remember to ease up on the fuel :)

Jarjar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2003.09.04 01:06:00 - [8]
 

My opinion:
Indy AFK mining: Fine, but if you get blown to pieces, don't complain.
Macro AFK mining: Cheating, end of discussion.

Sc0rpion
Faster Pussycat Kill Kill
Posted - 2003.09.04 01:39:00 - [9]
 

There's nothing wrong with AFK mining per se, but I think the people who do it are missing the whole point.

If you aren't going to PLAY the game, why are you bothering to log on at all?

Tim Maser
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2003.09.04 02:04:00 - [10]
 

If your going to mine with an indy with one laser, I don't mind either. Since what on earth are you going to do anyway during the 2hrs or so it takes to fill the indy?

I do that myself, but mainly when going to work, I leave it mining, or whenever I need to take a break. Plus the game seems to disconnect for me after it's done mining and has been idle too long.

If I have time to spend, I'll mine with a Probe and 7 large secure containers. This requires your attention since you need to drag the ore every 5-10 minutes. Plus I also choose a more valuable ore that will deplete more often.

In a day and a half I'll have Cruiser level 3, then with my already purchased Rupture, I can start mining in low sec areas and use drone fighters to fight rats, so it will require even more attention.

Never thought people would use macros. Though, then wouldn't it require using a regular cargo container that is near limitless? Then that still leaves them open for ore theft, plus the container will explode after a while. Just a little confused how that works.

Cruise
Gallente
Wasabi Inc
Posted - 2003.09.04 02:15:00 - [11]
 

The macro is simply a 'recording' of what you've done. All of it, from the time you put the first laser to the rock, to the hauling of the ore into the station and back to the roid.

Once the macro is complete it's then run and the action is a continuous loop. If you pick a big enough roid that you know won't deplete for a long, long time then you pretty well set it and walk away.

Yeah, it's a cheat and deplorable, and I've personally not known anyone who uses a macro for mining, but I know people do it.

It's like my step-son, the kid can't play a game straight through without looking up cheats on the net. Why? Because he prefers to do things the 'easy' way - in other words: he's f'ing lazy.

I know a lot of people argue they don't have the time to play the game as much as others and that macro mining gives them a chance to 'get ahead', but c'mon, if you're not even there playing the game, what's the friggin' point?!


Archemedes
Gallente
Omnitrend
Posted - 2003.09.04 02:24:00 - [12]
 

Presumably the macro AFK'ers would set up to drag the ore into a can, then have corpmates (or themself using a 2nd account) in indies ferry the ore. Assuming the pilot is not AFK for long periods, he can switch rocks and eject new cans as needed. Or maybe the macro does that too... I've heard of VERY fancy macro programs that can read screen images, etc... Sounds like more work to set up than just mining the silly rock yourself though. Rolling Eyes

As for AFK indy mining, I did that myself a few times. When you only have a couple million ISK and you want a good cruiser, getting a "free" quarter mil as you sleep, go to work, or so on sounds pretty good. Once you have more experience, it's pretty much more hassle than it's worth.

So most AFK indy miners are probably newer people or saving up for something very expensive (or collecting battleship minerals). It's not like we'll ever run out of low-end ores, so why worry about it? AFK macroing on the other hand is just cheating. Sad


 

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