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Gator McKlusky
Posted - 2005.10.20 01:27:00 - [571]
 

5 or 10 CTD today....

nevermind.....still loving EVE!Cool

Tyra Storm
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:08:00 - [572]
 

I have the pleasure of no ctd's today. That's probably because i can't even get into the station. The trace i ran sucks bigtime

By the way, this is from Australia.
First couple deleted for security reasons:

4,61.9.134.93,31ms,CPE-61-9-134-93.vic.bigpond.net.au,0
5,61.9.129.6,30ms,,0
6,139.130.94.89,30ms,GigabitEthernet3-1.exc2.Melbourne.telstra.net,0
7,203.50.77.25,30ms,GigabitEthernet2-1.exi1.Melbourne.telstra.net,0
8,203.50.77.13,30ms,GigabitEthernet2-2.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net,0
9,203.50.6.37,68ms,Pos15-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net,0
10,203.50.6.2,59ms,10GigabitEthernet1-0.oxf-core1.Sydney.telstra.net,0
11,203.50.13.34,70ms,10GigabitEthernet6-0.syd-core04.Sydney.net.reach.com,0
12,202.84.221.85,207ms,i-10-0.syd-core03.net.reach.com,0
13,202.84.249.169,190ms,i-2-1.tok-core02.net.reach.com,0
14,202.84.219.42,159ms,i-0-0.tok05.net.reach.com,0
15,134.159.125.82,377ms,unknown.net.reach.com,0
16,62.154.5.38,456ms,linx-gw13.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE,0
17,62.153.203.190,403ms,,0
18,157.157.62.26,395ms,,0
19,157.157.139.252,418ms,,0
20,157.157.139.10,420ms,,0

Fantastic game, frustrating couple of daysCrying or Very sad

Deep Throat
Amarr
AJAX.
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:20:00 - [573]
 

I have a theory;

Skynet

Kryten 2X4B523P
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:28:00 - [574]
 

This is so frustrating Crying or Very sad

How do i get a trace?

Joachim Winter
Gallente
Smoking Hillbillys
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:31:00 - [575]
 

Mines proper fubarred at the mo, I'm sure the CCP boys are busting their guts to sort it out, tho I reckon its not their faults at all and the hardware upgrade aint gonna help a problem like this, well I can play FEAR instead I suppose..........

.........no spaceships tho.................... Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.8.1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 139.184.222.3
3 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 212.219.151.65
4 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 212.219.151.73
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms cosham-bar.ja.net [146.97.40.1]
8 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms po9-0.cosh-scr.ja.net [146.97.35.21]
9 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms po2-0.lond-scr.ja.net [146.97.33.41]
10 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms po0-0.lond-scr4.ja.net [146.97.33.34]
11 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms po1-0.int-gw4.ja.net [146.97.35.134]
12 4 ms 4 ms 3 ms ldn-b3-pos10-0.telia.net [213.248.100.237]
13 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms ldn-bb2-pos6-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.49]
14 7 ms 4 ms 4 ms ldn-b1-pos5-0.telia.net [213.248.74.14]
15 4 ms 4 ms 13 ms ge-4-0-0-zcr1.lnt.cw.net [195.66.226.20]
16 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms so-1-2-0-dcr1.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.126]
17 5 ms 4 ms 4 ms so-3-0-0-bcr1.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.53]
18 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
19 57 ms 5 ms 282 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
20 4 ms 5 ms 5 ms 157.157.62.26
21 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 157.157.139.252
22 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 157.157.139.10

Trace complete.

Joachim Winter
Gallente
Smoking Hillbillys
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:33:00 - [576]
 

But when I ping I get this........

Pinging 157.157.139.10 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 157.157.139.10: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=235
Reply from 157.157.139.10: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=235
Reply from 157.157.139.10: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=235
Reply from 157.157.139.10: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=235

Ping statistics for 157.157.139.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 6ms

Now that seems reasonably good........I just don't get it Question

Gretchen Dawntreader
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2005.10.20 02:51:00 - [577]
 

If people seemed a bit steamed, it might be because the wording of the news item sounded basically, politely, like we were being told, we tried, but we give up.

I know I threw a couple things around the room...

It took getting you angry for a post saying explicitly that you guys were leaning whoever it is behind all those tracert jumps to look into the problem. That's what I was waiting to hear. Sorry you got mad before saying it.

Online game players are greedy and selfish. We want to be able to play all the time whenever and pay to be able to do that, and when we can't we get unreasonably steamed. All told though, this thread is a lot more productive and cooperative (brainstorming, tracerouting, etc) that you would see from any of the 7 or so other MMORPGs I've played over the last 6 years. So yeah, we kvetch and kick our heels, but we know you are doing what you can.

A certain amount of venting will happen, just as you vented a bit too. I'm sure we will come through this. I can if need be skill some skills for a couple weeks or so. But it's frustrating for everyone.

Corunna ElMan
Caldari
Foundation for Uncommon Sense
Posted - 2005.10.20 03:02:00 - [578]
 

My ISP blocks traceroute data by endusers so I show timeouts after the 4th hop from my IP... but I used to work for their technical support department so I called them up and asked them to do a traceroute from there.

The second hop out from adelphia.net is bottlenecking, I was unsurprised to hear the tech say "157.157..."

Upgrading the server hardware won't do a damn thing to resolve this problem, so that shouldn't be an excuse for waiting for a resolution.

Long story short, it's not my ISP or any other player's... it's CCP's. If my ISP were to blame, I'd get another provider. If CCP can't rectify this issue with C&W ASAP, I'd suggest they do the same.

I want to be able to play this game and I hope I haven't made a mistake quitting my previous MMO to do so. However, only a fool pays for a service he can't use, so my continued patronage depends entirely on what CCP chooses to do about this, and how promptly.

HAMTRONIX
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2005.10.20 03:38:00 - [579]
 

lets all fill out this feedback/contact form on the c&w page, hey at this point anything is an option!

http://www.cw.com/uk/about_us/contact_us/product_services/uk.html

tomma
Posted - 2005.10.20 05:55:00 - [580]
 

Edited by: tomma on 20/10/2005 06:25:09
Edited by: tomma on 20/10/2005 05:59:37
Thursday morning, still same problem....

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 157.157.139.10 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.


1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.254
2 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms merignac-2-82-66-27-254.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.27.254]
3 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 213.228.9.190
4 * * 39 ms cbv-6k-2-v824.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.51.57]
5 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms if-7-0.core2.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.73.17]
6 38 ms 39 ms 96 ms ix-4-1.core2.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.73.14]
7 48 ms 47 ms 48 ms isp-linx-gw13-o.nmc-m.dtag.de [217.239.38.241]
8 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms 62.153.203.190
9 49 ms 49 ms 48 ms 157.157.62.26
10 48 ms 50 ms 53 ms 157.157.139.252
11 49 ms 47 ms 50 ms 157.157.139.10

Itinéraire déterminé.



Crying or Very sad

edit: my best score, 30 minutes today online today, yesterday was 45 minutes....

Rakhan kane
Minmatar
Fringe Exploration And Salvage Trust
Posted - 2005.10.20 06:33:00 - [581]
 

This was taken while a disconnect was in progress (game stops responding to commands, autopilot, though on, doesn't, etc).

[@12 ~]$ traceroute 157.157.139.10
traceroute to 157.157.139.10 (157.157.139.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 1 (192.168.1.1) 0.838 ms 0.738 ms 0.734 ms
2 tli-erx1.hel.elisa-laajakaista.fi (80.186.64.1) 15.377 ms 16.065 ms 16.888 ms
3 pa-edge2.hel.kolumbus.net (193.229.6.89) 15.615 ms * 15.678 ms
4 m40-pa-ge-3-1.hel.kolumbus.net (193.229.255.69) 16.112 ms 14.631 ms 16.062 ms
5 bromma10-so1-0-0.sto.kolumbus.net (193.229.1.5) 21.198 ms 21.285 ms 21.549 ms
6 ge-0-3-0-ycr1.skt.cw.net (166.63.220.73) 21.376 ms 21.282 ms 21.401 ms
7 so-1-0-0-ycr1.cpi.cw.net (208.173.216.25) 29.757 ms 29.613 ms 29.712 ms
8 so-5-2-0-dcr2.amd.cw.net (195.2.10.181) 41.338 ms 41.253 ms 41.298 ms
9 so-4-0-0-dcr1.tsd.cw.net (195.2.10.146) 48.308 ms 47.806 ms 47.981 ms
10 so-3-0-0-bcr1.tsd.cw.net (195.2.10.53) 49.556 ms 49.475 ms 47.936 ms
11 iar2.tsd.cw.net (166.63.210.23) 48.004 ms 48.185 ms 47.414 ms
12 iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net (166.63.214.198) 49.632 ms 49.435 ms 49.618 ms
13 157.157.62.26 (157.157.62.26) 49.580 ms 47.487 ms 49.651 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *

Tara Armitage
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2005.10.20 06:51:00 - [582]
 

About 5 minutes before I got teh boot.

I think I am done for a while.

Calmcacil
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:03:00 - [583]
 

Edited by: Calmcacil on 20/10/2005 07:04:39
I am more confused than ever before Shocked

Yesterday i started Eve at work - found a nice big roid - and checked in via VNC a couple of times at night - again this morning - and just now .. Eve has run for 13 hrs straight without crashes.

Here's what i dont get - tracert's show the same end-route - but the one that WORKS has a lot more hits on CW servers before the end than the one that doesn't ..

At work - hasnt crashed for 13 hours (and never did previously):

Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 10 ms 3 ms 4 ms **********************
2 2 ms 3 ms 2 ms **********************
3 15 ms 10 ms 14 ms **********************
4 13 ms 11 ms 15 ms **********************

5 25 ms 31 ms 33 ms pos0-0.2488m.albnxg1.ip.tele.dk [83.88.12.73]
6 39 ms 35 ms 37 ms pos5-0.2488m.ffm2nxg2.ip.tele.dk [83.88.26.153]

7 34 ms 35 ms 35 ms ge-0-3-0-0-zar1.fri.cw.net [166.63.204.137]
8 50 ms 47 ms 34 ms ge-3-2-0-bcr2.fra.cw.net [166.63.193.205]
9 40 ms 36 ms 34 ms so-1-2-0-dcr2.fra.cw.net [195.2.10.78]
10 51 ms 49 ms 49 ms so-4-0-0-dcr1.amd.cw.net [195.2.10.149]
11 53 ms 56 ms 63 ms as0-dcr2.amd.cw.net [195.2.10.154]
12 55 ms 56 ms 58 ms so-4-0-0-dcr1.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.146]
13 56 ms 57 ms 56 ms so-4-0-0-bcr3.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.97]
14 55 ms 56 ms 59 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
15 61 ms 58 ms 58 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
16 59 ms 57 ms 56 ms 157.157.62.26
17 59 ms 56 ms 54 ms 157.157.139.252
18 60 ms 59 ms 58 ms 157.157.139.10


At home - crashes VERY often:

Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms <10 ms <10 ms **********************
2 24 ms 18 ms 17 ms **********************
3 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms **********************

4 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms pos4-1.cr2-by.ip.cybercity.dk [212.242.6.185]
5 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms 213.242.108.13
6 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ae-0-56.mpls2.Copenhagen1.Level3.net [213.242.10
7.82]
7 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58]

8 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms ge-1-1.core2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.134
]
9 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms CABLE-WIRE.c2.Level3.net [212.73.240.170]
10 44 ms 43 ms 47 ms so-5-2-0-dcr2.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.134]
11 43 ms 44 ms 44 ms so-5-0-0-bcr3.tsd.cw.net [195.2.10.101]
12 44 ms 46 ms 43 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
13 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
14 45 ms 44 ms 44 ms 157.157.62.26
15 44 ms 52 ms 44 ms 157.157.139.252
16 44 ms 44 ms 43 ms 157.157.139.10

Luther Cixouss
Union Aerospace Corporation
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:15:00 - [584]
 

Edited by: Luther Cixouss on 20/10/2005 07:16:44
/Signed

CTDs regularly over the past week.

Never used to get them AT ALL - or at least very rarely.

Location: London

ISP: Nildram (who are pretty reliable)

Lost many drones hunting rats in 0.0 because of this

Sad

tomma
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:24:00 - [585]
 

Originally by: Luther Cixouss
Edited by: Luther Cixouss on 20/10/2005 07:16:44
/Signed

CTDs regularly over the past week.

Never used to get them AT ALL - or at least very rarely.

Location: London

ISP: Nildram (who are pretty reliable)

Lost many drones hunting rats in 0.0 because of this

Sad


Same here

ISP: Free
Location : Bordeaux, France

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:37:00 - [586]
 

Oveur,

Why can't you allow Chribba's proxy..?

Better yet, why can't you provide one for us on another network which is KNOWN to work?

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:39:00 - [587]
 

Edited by: RobW1 on 20/10/2005 07:39:49
More traces -

C:\Documents and Settings\robwilc>tracert 157.157.139.10

Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 7 ms 8 ms 17 ms 10.152.95.254
3 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com [62.253.122.9]
4 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms winn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.253.121.1]
5 10 ms 7 ms 8 ms win-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]
6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.lnd.cw.net [166.63.161.229]
7 10 ms 37 ms 9 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.209.205]
8 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
9 10 ms 10 ms 42 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
10 * 10 ms 20 ms 157.157.62.26
11 11 ms * 10 ms 157.157.139.252
12 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms 157.157.139.10

Trace complete.


Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 6 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.152.95.254
3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com [62.253.122.9]
4 7 ms 7 ms 9 ms winn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.253.121.1]
5 31 ms 8 ms 9 ms win-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]
6 8 ms 12 ms 10 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.lnd.cw.net [166.63.161.229]
7 10 ms 9 ms 8 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.209.205]
8 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
9 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
10 * * 11 ms 157.157.62.26
11 * * 9 ms 157.157.139.252
12 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 157.157.139.10

Trace complete.

I got booted, and can't connect now.

CCP this is YOUR ISP.

Amthrianius
Keiretsu
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:45:00 - [588]
 

Just ctded and cant get past char selection screen

FFS!

TimW
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:49:00 - [589]
 

UK, Grimsby (via Nottingham).

NTL.

MatrixICE
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:56:00 - [590]
 

Please tell me that today during the long DT you will be looking further into the dissconnection problem?

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:57:00 - [591]
 

Edited by: RobW1 on 20/10/2005 07:57:50
Disconnected again for me - 2 clients - same time.

can't get one client signed back in - stuck at "Entering game". Did the trick of logging in an alt, and then back around, didn't work this time.

Calmcacil
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.10.20 07:59:00 - [592]
 

They are looking into it - and have been for a long time..

Only thing for us to do now is contact ISP's and tell them to find an alternate route...

What i dont understand still is, that the game runs fine at my workplace (13hrs) - and not at home - and traces are identical (on the last many steps anyway)

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:06:00 - [593]
 

Sub 10ms ping times, no dropped packets..

Tracing route to 157.157.139.10 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 11 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.152.95.254
3 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms rdng-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com [62.253.122.9]
4 14 ms 9 ms 7 ms winn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [62.253.121.1]
5 9 ms 19 ms 24 ms win-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.113]
6 12 ms 14 ms 8 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.lnd.cw.net [166.63.161.229]
7 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms so-7-0-0-bcr2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.209.205]
8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms iar2.tsd.cw.net [166.63.210.23]
9 13 ms 9 ms 14 ms iceland-telecom1.tsd.cw.net [166.63.214.198]
10 16 ms 11 ms 9 ms 157.157.62.26
11 * 10 ms 9 ms 157.157.139.252
12 10 ms 12 ms 10 ms 157.157.139.10

Trace complete.

And still i get disconnected.

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:07:00 - [594]
 

And messages like this -

"Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong."

When one client is running fine.

Bettermine
Shadow Company
Axiom Empire
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:07:00 - [595]
 

I think the ultimate frustration for me was to have a full day of play through Chribba's proxy, to log off to get some food, log back on to find it banned :(

So .. a solution that worked was to use a proxy that had no problems BUT was not approved by CCP.

Fine ..

Then can CCP approve a proxy ? Is that SOOOOO difficult to do for them ? On a purely temporary basis, and on a CUSTOMER FRIENDLY basis i would think that would make a lot of sense ?

I have been unable to play since 10 minutes before DT on Monday , but i wasnt getting angry as such, i work in IT and i could see that it wasnt CCP's fault, far more C&W routers ..

What DID make me angry tho, was the fact that as a community we found a solution to accessing Eve, (and btw CCP say they have NO restriction on how many clients can connect from a specific IP address), which to my mind was elegant enough. And then CCP ban it ?

Somebody has to explain the logic to me .. Proxy Servers are EVERYWHERE .. anyone using certain Internet Providers (NTL anyone) ALL go to the internet via a proxy, so what .. is CCP going to ban them too ? Because under that EULA rule if they banned Chribba's proxy then they must surely by god ban ANY proxy connections ..

Put it another way .. if your home IP starts with any of the private IP range, technically you are accessing the internet through a proxy, therefore breaking CCP's EULA, thus you should be banned according to CCP's logic ..

Expert Newbie
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:11:00 - [596]
 

Edited by: Expert Newbie on 20/10/2005 08:13:51
You obviously don't understand how a proxy works. Imagine thousands of players connecting from one IP address...wouldn't it be kind of hard to pursue any legal action if they can't trace it back to anyone in case they do something illegal?

Your router assigns an internal IP for all the computers connected to it but your actual IP is still unique for your connection. Hence why it's traceable back to you.

Why do you care if they ban the proxy or not? Once they get the problem fixed, you won't have to use one. For now just find another proxy since you like to keenly point out there's so many out there.

Calmcacil
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:12:00 - [597]
 

Edited by: Calmcacil on 20/10/2005 08:13:51
Edited by: Calmcacil on 20/10/2005 08:12:17
Dont. put. ideas. in. their. heads. plzkthxby YARRRR!!

oh - Expert Newbie - that excact scenario happens in netcafe's, dorms and my workplace ... everyone at my workplace connects via the same IP ... same ****..

Deep Throat
Amarr
AJAX.
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:12:00 - [598]
 

Originally by: Ralitge boyter
Riddle me this...

My main char gets kicked every 5 to 10 minutes, yet my alt can login and stay there for hours and hours on end.

Network issues my A$$. (at least for me that can simply not be the case as I am always using the same connection)

I think there is something else going on and it is more to do with the server/client as when flying about there is not much of an issue just like when staying in the station but during battle or looking at things like corp hanger, market, assets and the like I get the boot (only with my main). People can say what they want but I guess it has something to do with the backend and I would not be surprised if it has to do with database timeouts or something like that.
Then again how that could be related to certain characters and not to others is something that I can not figure out but it might be in the game logic or something like that.



Interesting quote i found in another thread regarding the CONTINOUS DISCONECTION element.

Now although not 100% tested, but i could run my alt account very long, and when i disconnected the character from that account it had ran flawlessly for over an hour.

I then ran from another computer(same router) and again exactly the same results.

From 3 characters tested and 3 accounts tested, only one had the CTD virus, and yes u guessed it that is my account and my character.

Am i the only one here saying WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

Erika Hulme
0utbreak
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:14:00 - [599]
 

Logged in, said hi in corp channel, CTD-ed. All in less than 1 minute. Am I fast or what? :/

Deep Throat
Amarr
AJAX.
Posted - 2005.10.20 08:15:00 - [600]
 

Originally by: Expert Newbie
You obviously don't understand how a proxy works. Imagine thousands of players connecting from one IP address...wouldn't it be kind of hard to pursue any legal action if they can't trace it back to anyone in case they do something illegal?


wouldnt it be kinda hard to loose 100s of subscribers due to total lack of game availability, its already been going on for 4 days now....


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