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Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:38:00 - [31]
 

//Frigates, cruisers, battleships and shuttles excluded from this topic. //

You are talking like this: hey , ccp, my choice of mining ship is not as good as others, please nerf others and boost mine. of course if you give me the ability to setup a auto-miner, that'll be cool.


screw you.

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:42:00 - [32]
 

Ahhh, I never said nerf others and boost mine. I was saying every race should have a decent mining ship. In no topic have I said nerf other ships so I can have a better one. I believe we should have a vessel that pointed towards mining. Hell is that to much to ask? I think not. Thanks for your replies people.

Derkan.Razz

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:44:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 23/07/2003 22:50:06
//I was saying every race should have a decent mining ship.//

Yes, EVERY RACE HAVE a decent mining ship. NOT ONLY ONE, MORE, MUCH MORE THAN ONE.

Ok, let's say this way if you can't understand what's your own words, What you said was just like this: CCP, Please change Battleship Class name to Mining ship class 3, cruiser to mining ship class 2, frigate to mining ship class 1. You satisfied?

You also can ask this: Make a copy of armageddon, give it a name "elite mining ship", a copy of thorax, give it a name "advanced mining ship", a copy of omen, give it a name "improved mining ship", a copy of probe, give it a name "basic mining ship". Now everybody is happy..Shocked

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:48:00 - [34]
 

Please reframe from shouting it only shows your age. This is a friendly post about concern towards other miners and myself. If you don't like the subject leave and so in a orderly matter. Please drive through your ship is starting to stink.

Derkan Razz

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:55:00 - [35]
 

You also can ask this: Make a copy of armageddon, give it a name "elite mining ship", a copy of thorax, give it a name "advanced mining ship", a copy of omen, give it a name "improved mining ship", a copy of probe, give it a name "basic mining ship". Now everybody is happy..

What are you 6 years old at your fathers keyboard? Go back to neverland where you make sense to others at your own age grouping. Rename the armageddon, give it a name "elite mining ship". Come on think before you post man.

DerkanRazz

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 22:58:00 - [36]
 

derkan, question other people's age especially directly said other people are "6 year old" only shows YOU as a silly little guy. Re-read what were you talking about and re-think before your "6 years old" words out again.

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:10:00 - [37]
 

First post was this.
When will they live up to there name? Why isn't there an indy thats built around mining or refining? There's are allot of players that like to mine for minerals and we don't have a decent ship to do this type of activity. Frigates, cruisers and even battleships do not have enough room in there cargo to make it worth while. Industry ships such as the bestower and others have the cargo space and have only one turrent. Can't there be a happy medium? Perhaps Indy's in the future can be made to have more turrent slots? Mining with one turrent is boring as all heck. Hauling for others is kind of lame as well. I like mining but it's a pain not having a decent ship to do what I like best. Mining.

Just a thought.
Derkan.

Second Post was This,
Now that would be a great idea. When will they put that into the game? Anyone have any ideas?


Derkan

Third post was this,
Perhaps all of that are making fun are missing the point. I like mining. I don't afk mine. Never have. Never will. Frigates and Cruisers for mining? If those are for mining whats for fighting? Come on people, your telling me that warships are used for mining and ccp made them that way? Last time I checked probes had 500 cargo with expanders. Most cruisers have the same with expanders. But frigates and cruisers are for mining? Thats rich. I suppose the next thing your going to tell me is Battleships were made for trade runs and not Industry ships. Come on people lets think before you reply.

My point whatever you like doing in the game there should be a ship that meets your needs. So far there isn't any decent mining ships.

Derkan

Then we got to you who began to flame the hell out of me. Which we already know your 6 years of age. I asked you nicely not to but you proceeded none the less. So whos the sily little man that started the flame of fire. It sure wasn't me. I even asked you nicely to leave in my own way.

Derkan.

Please drive though your ship is starting to stink and have a nice day at your fathers cpu.Razz

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:12:00 - [38]
 

Derkan, can armageddon fit your need? can thorax fit your need? can omen fit your need? can probe fit your need? If so, what's your problem? If you don't like them just because their class name, then go ask ccp make a special ship copy just for you and change their name to "mining ship"

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:15:00 - [39]
 

Derkan: I need a mining ship
Me: There's tons of mining ship
Derkan: We discuss mining ship exclude frigate,cruiser,battleship,shuttle
me: then go ask ccp change their name
Derkan: you 6 years old!
me: don't question other's age because that only shows your age
derkan: we already know you are 6 years old! we need mining ship because other ship fit my need don't have mining ship label!
me: then ask you again GO ASK CCP CHANGE SHIP NAME JUST TO FIT YOUR STYLE.

Kashre
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:22:00 - [40]
 

Jeeze people. Lighten up.

a> The nature of an EVE ship is modular. Any ship with turret hardpoints or drone bays will make a good miner. Ships with more of each will make an even better miner, and with more cargo space they become a more flexible miner.

b> There's nothing wrong with using a battleship to mine. Its not very cost efective, in the short term to buy one just for mining, but eventually its extra turret and cargo and drone space will pay for itself. Also, even if you bought your BB to fight in mostly, if your corp needs 20 million trit for something, like building more battleships, only an idiot would refuse to use what is currently THE MOST EFFECTIVE miner in the game, the Battleship.

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:24:00 - [41]
 

I fly a thorax to mine minerals. But I can only get 465 cargo from it. Now The idea of a mining ship came from me sitting in a roid field looking at the ship list ingame and seeing the ships with the most cargo. None of them with the exception of haulers had a decent amount. The Gallante has one that can fit around 700 with expanders. My Corp has batteships. I don't like kill pirates, Npc and pc alike. But I do like mining in .5 sectors and below. I just think that every race should have a mining vessel is all. That was my whole point.


I knew someone was going to flame me. Some people agree and other disagree. But don't flame with the intent on starting a board war.

Just my 2isk
DerkanRazz

Oh and filling up a cargo can isn't such a great idea in the first place. Whats to stop a hauler from just dropping by and picking it all up? Nothing.

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:28:00 - [42]
 

Sigh, derkan, even there's some cap words in my posts, it's certainly not board war till your "6 years old" out.
Anyway, BS especially armageddon can have 4000+ cargo if you have the correct equipments. So BS IS the current BEST mining ship in any sense till titan out. then titan is your dream. it's not combat focus ship and has HUGE cargo(500k base I think).

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:38:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Derkan on 23/07/2003 23:41:45

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:42:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Dragon Emperor on 23/07/2003 23:46:46

Jojin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2003.07.23 23:42:00 - [45]
 

While the game does provide many different size vessels capable of mining, most of these ships which are optimal for mining are also optimal for fighting. From a game mechanic point of view, there is not a reason to add additional ships. From an experience the Fantasy of EVE, additional ships should be added which have specific purposes and look more distinctive to the tasks they perform.

At the moment, you could come across a fleet of battleships in an asteroid belt and not tell if it is the prime battle fleet of corporation X or just a large scale mining operation.

I always get a kick out of the idea that the Pride of the Military Fleet, is used for the humble task of digging out ore from asteroids.


Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.24 00:10:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Derkan on 24/07/2003 00:11:30
Case closed.

Derkan Razz

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.24 00:13:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Derkan on 24/07/2003 00:14:49
One more question for ya dragon, what type of expanders would I need to get the armageddon to 4000+ cargo? Or when will they come out with the titans?

DerkanRazz

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.24 00:19:00 - [48]
 

try fit all 27% expander, that'll let armageddon beat badger at least. lol
armageddon has 8 low slots, so that's a huge advantage compare to other ships. however, if you fit all 8 expander, your max speed will drop to like 40-50m/s, so even ab is not enough to speed up your ship. mwd will be a must for it if you want to move......
I don't actually know when the titan will be out, hope it's soon.

Derkan
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2003.07.24 00:23:00 - [49]
 

I think Jump drives will come out before the titan class ships. How can a titan fit through a jump gate? I'm surpirsed that jump drives aren't active now. You would think battleships would be to big for the jump gates.

Derkan

Bolka
Caldari
Posted - 2003.07.24 11:26:00 - [50]
 


I have a question related to indys. It seems many people have been able to fit microwarp drives on indys.
What indys can do this, and what's the config?


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