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Uncle Chuckles
Posted - 2005.07.25 18:00:00 - [61]
 

Shins pants 4tw.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:46:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Raem Civrie
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Raem Civrie
North Star Incorporated, founded by Mr. Shadow and Jabu. Interstellar Security Company (ISC) followed a bit later, as well as Endless Corp. and a few others.


ISC was the one i sought. Is NSI older?

Would be nice if someone could mail me contact adresses for either - might be nice to get an interview from them :)

And hellgremlin, i know where to find you. Ye be warned.


NSI was formed late october/early november 2000. ISC followed later in nov/dec. NSI was the first corporation in EVE to reach a member base of 50, ISC then broke that record gazillion times.

As for Mr.Shadow's and Jabu's addresses... 'fraid I can't help there. I happened to be the first one to join NSI, and pretty soon shared equal "power" with Mr. Shadow and Jabu. Of course, back then, administration consisted of shouting on the forums alot.

But I still cherish the fact that I was one of three directors of EVE's first corp. And I brag about it whenever I can, like right now.


If you can keep it up i might give you a chance to brag for 2 hours straight :P

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:47:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Ill try and see what i remember from my INO days. Might have some interviews, pressreleases and whatnot saved aswell.

Ill do some searching.



By whom was INO run? I can't really remember anything about it except for a few instances where some articles where pointed out.

I'll definately keep you in mind.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:47:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Uncle Chuckles
Shins pants 4tw.


You've been in there? 0_o

Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2005.07.25 20:07:00 - [65]
 

Torkaj was the Editor at the time, as far as i can remember. Other members that i remember are Karunel, Pilgrim, Shadow_Stalker and BelJoda. Sadly, the old INO website with all the articles (Which was online quite a while in retail, even though INO was not active) is now gone.

A few months back, Torkaj and others tried to restart the INO, but that didnt work out, not sure why.

Regulas
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2005.07.25 21:33:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Regulas on 25/07/2005 21:33:55
Heres the fastest way to learn ASCN history :) :

ASCN history in 30sec

Mark A
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.25 22:24:00 - [67]
 

I posted my recollections of the history of Venal on another thread, from my personal POV, here's a repost:
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I wasn't in beta, but joined retail on day 1. I joined a small corp but quickly outgrew it and moved up to Semiki to ninja mine ark/bist in my Probe (seriously). Once CCP started changing the sec status and ores there I went exploring northwards and ended up in Y-4CFK. I was there for about 3 weeks all by myself, then TTI arrived. After a couple of weeks I joined up as a rank-and-file member, and we spent our time mining and NPCing, mostly in peace.

After a while some PvP started to get underway. Internally to TTI, a few of us combat pilots decided to form our own team, which we called Gamma Squad (GunnyP was the commander, I was the XO). The idea was to run it independently of TTI's existing (and IMHO uninspiring) military leadership. We fought against CoC in Venal (indeed a CoC scorp was my first BS kill) - they were highly competent opponents and due every respect IMHO. We also had a war dec from Going Limp in empire, although that was more them ganking unsuspecting haulers and running from any PvPers.

Over time a bunch of other corps migrated up to Venal and the VA was formed. TTI was originally not a member, but had a mutual NAP being the encumbents in the region. Gamma Squad flew with the rest of VA on a daily basis, getting what kills we could. This rolled on for a good while, then we got word Evolution was planning to attack Venal. TTI had a prior NAP with Evol from an earlier cease-fire agreement (before my time). This obviously presented a problem with the whole "enemy of my friend is my enemy" factor, but the TTI leadership at the time decided to stay neutral and try to keep out of it. This decision proved academic as Evol immediately started shooting at TTI as well as VA when they arrived. This forced TTI to pick a side, and we joined VA as full members. Evol withdrew soon after and things were calm again for a while, and Venal was a fun place to be.

Then Evol launched another attack, this time claiming they were after TTI but not the rest of VA, ie the opposite of round 1. The VA stuck together and held them at bay. However (and this is mostly conjecture/rumour) Evolution then contacted some senior members of the alliance, in particular Jade Constantine who was well-known as not being Ragnar's biggest fan, claiming they'd withdraw if VA kicked TTI. To my mind this was a transparent ploy to split the alliance, but it worked up to a point. A vote was called to kick TTI, which was defeated, although not unanimously.

Then started the madness . Ragnar issued a pre-prepared statement (in the same vote meeting channel) via jimmychopps (an exec at the time) that TTI couldn't be in an alliance with corps who would vote to kick us, so the corps that voted against would be KOS. There was an immediate call for the vote to be re-taken and this time every VA corp voted to kick TTI.

A lot of speculation has gone on about this pivotal event, but the explanation is simple in hindsight IMHO. Unknown to the rest of us, Ragnar had already decided he was leaving the game and was going to use his amassed fortune and pile of bships to go out in a blaze of glory. TTI formed an alliance with Space Invaders (also booted from VA) and M3G4 to fight the now NVA, and so the fireworks began (BTW this alliance with known pirate corps wasn't exactly popular politically, as back then people were a lot touchier about this sort of thing). But it was a great war and a lot of fun for a while; however we started losing, mostly because SPVD didn't actually show up after the first few days. Eventually TTI and M3G4 had to pull back.

/cont...

Mark A
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.25 22:24:00 - [68]
 

At that point Ragnar announced he was quitting the game. As his last act he made another left-field decision - he bypassed the entire exec/director layer and made GunnyP the new CEO and me the new VP. We immediately issued a press release renouncing the pirate corp alliances and requesting a clean slate. Because we'd previously flown with a lot of the NVA pilots on a daily basis and built up a degree of trust, this was universally granted, even from Jade, who was very gracious about the whole affair.

TTI then went to Aridia for a while, then joined CA and moved to Curse. We fought against ATUK locally and helped PA (including CoC and a lot of the ex-NVA corps) against BoB. Now we are allied with [5] and I fly with ATUK most days. We even have (temporary) +ve standings with Evol, RKK and BNC as common enemies of G/Imp/IRON. If there's a moral to the story it's that in EVE politics, everything changes (EVE diplomacy chart ftw).
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Jezala
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
Posted - 2005.07.25 23:03:00 - [69]
 

The chronicling of Eve's history should a be a project in conjunction with E-ON. It is the perfect medium for documenting and archiving the history, stories, and lore of the past 2 years. It should also take advantage of player made content (i.e. short stories, maps, vids). It has been touted for a while that the greatest stories in Eve are the ones generated by the players. Relisha is right in that the exploits of the player base ought to be documented and used to flesh out Eve.

On another note, the players news center should be made available to the general public. As it is now, you must have an account to view the content. The public should have an oppertunity to learn about Eve's universe, slowly getting drawn into its story, and perhaps becoming a future participant.

Raem Civrie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.25 23:14:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Ill try and see what i remember from my INO days. Might have some interviews, pressreleases and whatnot saved aswell.

Ill do some searching.



By whom was INO run? I can't really remember anything about it except for a few instances where some articles where pointed out.

I'll definately keep you in mind.


Torkaj. Danish guy.

Also, I've been interviewed once recently (EVE-Radio). You should do HG instead.

Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleet Yards
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.25 23:26:00 - [71]
 

Anyone interested in how the ongoing Amarr/Minmatar war started? :P

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 02:51:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Mark A
*snip* Ragnar's Hat explanation.


First, and i don't think anyone has ever mentioned this, kudos and respect to the loyalty of the TTI members, to still follow their leader blindly into this mess. While the leader might not get that respect from most, the members definately deserve it. Just had to say that.

Second, you've just appeared on my i-list :) I'm not going to be satisfied with this short text, which tries to explain and document a whole lot more than is mentioned. But, that's just me :P

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 02:53:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Raem Civrie
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Ill try and see what i remember from my INO days. Might have some interviews, pressreleases and whatnot saved aswell.

Ill do some searching.



By whom was INO run? I can't really remember anything about it except for a few instances where some articles where pointed out.

I'll definately keep you in mind.


Torkaj. Danish guy.

Also, I've been interviewed once recently (EVE-Radio). You should do HG instead.


I don't mean a personal interview, although there might be questions of that nature. I need a recollection of your experiences and memories, as detailed as possible about as much as you can remember, at least, for as far it's covered in my questions, if you get what i mean.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 02:55:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Tharrn
Anyone interested in how the ongoing Amarr/Minmatar war started? :P



I'm not interested in CCP's main version, that's well-documented, and if need be i'll simply hire some privte eyes to find Gnauton.

I AM interested in how CVA and Ushra Khan (sorry if i dont mention others) got involved, and what part either plays in the war. PIE has been on my i-list since the beginning, so don't worry about that.

sonofollo
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.07.26 05:14:00 - [75]
 

So where does FIX fit into all of this ?

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.26 10:11:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/07/2005 10:45:27
Originally by: Reiisha

I'm not interested in CCP's main version, that's well-documented, and if need be i'll simply hire some privte eyes to find Gnauton.

I AM interested in how CVA and Ushra Khan (sorry if i dont mention others) got involved, and what part either plays in the war. PIE has been on my i-list since the beginning, so don't worry about that.


The following is taken from Takumi's history of PIE on our website...

Originally by: Takumi Vetinari
Rogue, Snook and I spent our time in beta learning the game and druming up interest elsewhere, and slowly the foundations for PIE Inc. within EVE were laid. Although we took no factional stance in Jumpgate, Snook was keen that we should choose a single race in EVE, and adhere to the 'roleplay' background that the developers had written for them. As Snook seemed to have a good feel for the various backgrounds and overall plot, I left the decision to him, while Rogue and I continued to explore tactics etc.

Shortly before the launch of EVE, we eventually decided on the almost zealot-like religious fanatics, the Amarr. A race steeped in holy traditions, imperial rule and a devout code of conduct, the Amarr were once the masters of other races in the EVE galaxy, having enslaved them during conquests. Following an uprising and eventual redemption of the enslaved races, the stage was set for an interesting roleplay.

The launch itself was not without its problems; I think even the most keen of EVE advocates would have admitted to the game’s less than completed state, and major updates, such as Autopilot, were added during the final week open beta, prior to retail. Undeterred by any such teething problems, on the 6th May 2003 myself, Rogue, Jobe, Snook and other PIE members set about creating the corporation. During beta, the cost associated with this was a mere 700 isk, an extremely moderate amount of work. To our astonishment, we suddenly found that we required 170,000 isk in order to setup a corporation. The race was on in our “noob” ships to mine as much Omber ore as we could. After a number of hours, we had sufficient money and PIE was officially born, although a corporation called New Birmingham Technologies beat us to be the first to setup a headquarters office in our chosen sector of Sehmy, deep within Amarr space.

During the first few days of operating in Sehmy, Mora and the surrounding sectors, we met many faces which will be more than familiar to PIE members. Our enigmatic Public Relations guru Hardin was found in Mora, parked up and mining. After a week or so, we also bumped into our brothers in arms in the corporation First Praetorian Guard, whose pilots Gazon and Baeloc joined us in acting out our first Amarr roleplay, chasing a foreigner from Empire space. Much fun was had by all present, and the seeds were sown for a lasting relationship.

The guild quickly expanded and more familiar faces joined our ranks, including many now long since departed. Their presence and influence on the guild cannot be stated enough however, from Riseth with his seemingly limitless ability to kill high level NPCs, to Beniore and his ability to devise highly creative ship configurations, and many, many more.

After approximately a month of play, PIE had some 20 or so members and the guild was well established. We had undertaken a number of sorties with First Praetorian Guard, who themselves had just began their RP proper on the official EVE forum, in the Intergalactic Summit. The outcome of this was a declaration of war from Minmatar corporation Oracle, comprising some 70 members. It is fair say that this was the beginning of the full scale conflict between the Amarr and Minmatar population. It was also at this time that, in musing over our close working partnership, that Gazon and Tharrn, leaders of the Guard, entered into merger talks with myself and other senior PIE members.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.26 10:12:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/07/2005 10:50:02
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/07/2005 10:43:55
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 26/07/2005 10:43:22
(Continued from previous post)

Originally by: Takumi Vetinari
With the merger complete, PIE was now over 40 strong of active members and engaged in conflict with Oracle.

The tide turned. After initially fighting bravely but against greater numbers of fighters, the combined pilots of 1PG and PIE rose against the Oracle terrorists and dealt them repeated blows, turning the tide of the conflict. The rest, as they say, is history. PIE has now forged a name for itself within the EVE universe, based on honour, camaraderie and being at the forefront of Empire roleplaying.

Along the way, a great many relationships were forged with other corporations, including the creation of the Curatores Vertatis Alliance, or CVA. Comprising Amarr-only corporations, CVA members shared wars against the terrorists and other would-be trouble makers, as well as undertaking other joint ventures, such as the historic joint purchasing of the blueprint for one of the Amarrian Navy’s greatest: the Armageddon battleship.


Most of the above events happened before I was involved with PIE. I first started flying with them during the time of anti-pirate campaign in Sarum Prime (which was a 0.4 system before December 2003).

If I recall correctly, PIE is the third oldest surviving corporation in Eve, and was founded on the very first day of the game.

Meehan
Viziam
Posted - 2005.07.26 10:28:00 - [78]
 

Might find this interesting. I got nostalgic reading it Neutral

KIAPieman
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.07.26 10:40:00 - [79]
 

god, i forgot how much flaming my history of venal post got lol.

just shows how too many people take this kinda thing far too seriously

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 13:09:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: sonofollo
So where does FIX fit into all of this ?


On the hand, like a glove.

Don't worry, FIX will have it's place - although it's relatively new, so it'll have to wait :P

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 13:11:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
*snip* Interesting read


You don't have to post stories in this thread. I'll come back to you and other PIE members regardless :P

Foreboding
Generation X
Posted - 2005.07.26 13:45:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Foreboding on 26/07/2005 13:47:54
That is why I started this game, honestly, one shard. One universe, one history. Makes players legends, good stuff. Please do it OP, I would love to read it!!

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.26 22:54:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Foreboding
Edited by: Foreboding on 26/07/2005 13:47:54
That is why I started this game, honestly, one shard. One universe, one history. Makes players legends, good stuff. Please do it OP, I would love to read it!!


OP?

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.26 23:02:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: j0sephine on 26/07/2005 23:02:31

"OP?"

Original Poster or something along these lines... generally, whoever is to blame for starting the thread -.^

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 02:55:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: j0sephine
Edited by: j0sephine on 26/07/2005 23:02:31

"OP?"

Original Poster or something along these lines... generally, whoever is to blame for starting the thread -.^


Now that made me feel like a newbie. Not that i didn't have times like that.....

OffBeaT
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.07.27 03:28:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: OffBeaT on 27/07/2005 03:28:18
some corps/alliances/people might not wont there history too be told. it can be real dirty! ShockedRazz

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 05:08:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: OffBeaT
Edited by: OffBeaT on 27/07/2005 03:28:18
some corps/alliances/people might not wont there history too be told. it can be real dirty! ShockedRazz


Then they're in bad luck. I won't leave alliances or corps out just because the messed up somewhere along the line - that means someone else reaped the benefits.

Should leave those entities out entirely? How would i explain that a region stayed uncolonized since the release of the game?

Should they just dissapear at the mess-up? Don't you think people won't ask where they went? No one will believe that 1000 players quite the game simultaniously for no reason.

Hence, no one is left out or unmentioned.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.28 02:56:00 - [88]
 

*bump*

Don't hold out on me people.

Zero35
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2005.07.28 03:11:00 - [89]
 

Ok, bumpage

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.28 18:39:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Reiisha on 28/07/2005 18:39:48
Does anyone know where i can find the threads of the BIG Scam, involving the character transfer, 750M isk and a treacherous BIG member? I'll need both threads - the initial auction thread and TS's response thread.


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