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Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.05.09 12:48:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Graelyn on 09/05/2005 15:30:46

"In times as treacherous as these, peace may seem like a distant illusion, but we must never stop fighting to achieve and maintain it. Disruptive forces seek tirelessly to tear us apart and it is easy for the weak-minded to follow the Flow.

It is up to you, strong of mind and spirit, to hold high the torch of peace; to fall in a war of hate is a disgrace, to fall fighting for peace is a virtue that few can aspire to. But isn't it better to die trying than never to try at all?"

- Emperor Hiederaan VII, in His final public message before his death

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Pax Amarria, a book written by the Amarr Emperor Heideran VII himself, was released yesterday through the Amarr Empire Ministry of Information. It will be published shortly in other empires. In the book, Heideran VII describes his lifelong dream for galactic peace and how he has worked zealously to enforce his vision. The book has met great critical acclaim throughout the Empire and political analysts everywhere say it's a 'must-read' for everyone interested in inter-stellar politics.

- InterGal News Release, 2003.09.03 19:15:56


The Amarr Empire is the largest human nation in existance. Her godfearing people make up 40% of all inhabited worlds. The forces commanded by our glorious Emperor rely upon the honor and ability of loyal Amarrian pod pilots to supplement Imperial Navy forces in maintaining order throughout Amarr space.

However, this is not enough. The immense Empire is frought with areas of lawlessness on her borders. Hostile paramilitaries and terrorists continue to spill innocent Amarrian blood in the name of thier twisted moralities. Those whom God has granted the ability, and the talent, must rise, strong in thier faith, to serve this terrestrial extension of God's heavenly Kingdom, and keep it's people safe. How can there be a higher calling?

The Aeternus Crusade is a paramilitary warfleet, commanded by pod pilots loyal to our blessed Empire. This is our homeland. We rise, strong in our faith, and stand ready to defend her people.

The Crusade fights for Glory. We fight for Honor. We also fight for Peace, the peace envisioned by our late Emperor Hierdaan VII, one in which The Reclaiming, the great spiritual purpose entrusted to our race, can be accomplished through education, diplomacy, and the winning of hearts and minds, with force only used when truly necessary. However, that dream is far distant. Many elements are at work, (both within and without!) that are obstacles to ever seeing the dream fulfilled. These are our Highest goals, to overcome and remove these obstacles, while serving the interests of law-abiding Amarrian citizens out in the harsh and dangerous galaxy we live in.

These Crusaders come from all races, and of all backgrounds. It is an Army of Faith, in which ones willingness to serve God and Emperor is far more important than an unfortunate bloodline. If we are to truly reclaim the world for God, how can we not embrace our non-Amarr brethren now? Aeternus strongly opposes intolerance of our foreign comrades, who serve the Empire faithfully, even as some they protect would spit upon them.

In 1st Qtr YR107, The Aeternus Crusade, along with the House Sarum loyalist corporation Ubiqa Seraph, formed The Aegis Militia, A CONCORD-recognized paramilitary Alliance. This new force has already become involved in various military campaigns against the Ushra'Khan terrorist alliance, The Blood Raider Conclave, and various pirate groups who prey upon hard-working, lawabiding Amarrian pilots.

Khaldorn Murino
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.05.09 13:17:00 - [2]
 

All sounds very 'honourable'.

Perhaps you left the part about enslaving billions of my people out? Yes, a very honourable practice.

Return our people to us. Then there will be peace Amarrian.. then there will be peace.

willows
Posted - 2005.05.09 14:06:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: willows on 09/05/2005 14:05:51
ooo and whom is this aimed at?

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.05.09 15:27:00 - [4]
 

It is aimed at anyone who cares. Wink

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.05.09 15:30:00 - [5]
 

I for one am grateful for such a clear and concise description of Aeternus Crusade policy.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.09 18:26:00 - [6]
 

Pax Amarria and the idea of the so called passive reclaiming is the biggest threat to the faithfull Amarrian. I have burned this gallentean influenced propaganda that is trying to remove amarrian traditions.
"His [Heideran VII] determination and powers of persuasion have compelled his own people and others to sacrifice many things they thought to be sacred to ensure that tranquility will prevail, now and forever."

The Imperial Aide Dasham Nestorik said before the championships:
Originally by: Dasham Nestorik
We must hope that moderate and peace loving powers will take the throne. It is imperative to the trans-staellar peace that our Leader strived to achieve. As a superior race, we must show a good example in our faith and honour


His dream of a weak and peacefull Emperor who follows the ideals of Heideran VII became true. Doriam Kor-Azor: "A liberal philanthropist that wants to alter the Empire's society to be more in vein with the other Empires. Is ready to negotiate with the other races and listen to their views. The most 'natural' heir to carry on the work of the Heideran VII to ensure world peace."

I really dont care if you you work side by side with foreigners. Some of those foreigners are trying really hard to get a status like most Ni-Kunni have today. And I have respect for those who try to reach enlightment.

Nevertheless let us not forget what Amarrians like Jamyl Sarum, a 'Firm believer in the moral and evolutionary superiority of the Amarrians', taught us. I am glad to see that noone from house Sarum bowed before Doriam. So called Sarumites that work side by side with 'ants and vermin', and praise the idea of Pax Amarria and the passive reclaiming are a nothing but a weak compromise in my eyes.

I dont give up my hope that religious reclaimers in the Amarr Empire one day will realize that both Heideran and Doriam cant be Gods chosen ones and come to the Khanid Kingdom to serve Khanid II.

Pulgor
Posted - 2005.05.09 18:52:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Ardor

I dont give up my hope that religious reclaimers in the Amarr Empire one day will realize that both Heideran and Doriam cant be Gods chosen ones and come to the Khanid Kingdom to serve Khanid II.


Oh right, atleast Jamyl had a valid reason (That of forigners being involved in the imperial succession.) All Khanid could say was "No, it's wrong because I didn't win!" and then he stole a titan and ran away while the other hairs faced their comeuppance like real heirs.

If you're going to follow a system, atleast follow it right. Everytime someone says the word "Khanid" the origional emperor starts spinning in his grave. Maybe we could hook up a turbine to him and generate power from this phenomenon =P.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.05.09 19:15:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Graelyn on 09/05/2005 19:17:21

You need to look at the past events a bit more academically.

The policies of the 'passive reclaiming' as you call it, was an attept to keep Amarr from doing something stupid. The Amarr Empire shares borders with more potential threats that ANY OTHER ENTITY in the Galaxy. We are the largest and most powerful of the Empires, but surrounded by forces eager to see us fall. The succession of Khanid hurt us. House Sarum, a major arm of our military, has been weakened considerably without a leader. The policies of the Jovian-backed CONCORD continue to see how far they can push thier weight.

Is this where you would begin your war?

Sadistic bloodraiders operate on our borders. Minmitaar terrorists invade our space. Our numerous low-sec pockets hide cartels of spacelane pirates. Let us reclaim what is ours before we look to blast our way towards Pator.

Start your reclaiming HERE at home!

We started the Reclaiming on Athra thousands of years ago. We may yet have thousands to go. Do not be impatient. God's will cannot be challenged in the end.

Your assertion that Emperors Hiederan and Doriam agree on this idea only furthers my arguement I would think. If you don't believe the endorsement of not one, but TWO chosen messengers of God, then who can change your mind?

Not I.

Pulgor
Posted - 2005.05.09 19:22:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Graelyn
Edited by: Graelyn on 09/05/2005 19:16:25

You need to look at the past events a bit more academically.

The policies of the 'passive reclaiming' as you call it, was an attept to keep Amarr from doing something stupid. The Amarr Empire shares borders with more potential threats that ANY OTHER ENTITY in the Galaxy. We are the largest and most powerful of the Empires, but surrounded by forces eager to see us fall. The succession of Khanid hurt us. House Sarum, a major arm of our military, has been weakened considerably without a leader. The policies of the Jovian-backed CONCORD continue to see how far they can push thier weight.

Is this where you would begin your war?

Sadistic bloodraiders operate on our borders. Minmitaar terrorists invade our space. Our numerous low-sec pockets hide cartels of spacelane pirates. Let us reclaim what is ours before we look to blast our way towards Pator.

We started the Reclaiming on Athra thousands of years ago. We may yet have thousands to go. Do not be impatient. God's will cannot be challenged in the end.

Your assertion that Emperors Hiederan and Doriam agree on this idea only furthers my arguement I would think. If you don't believe the endorsement of not one, but TWO chosen messengers of God, then who can change your mind?

Not I.


The Khanid render those arguments invalid because all emperors chosen after Khanid were heretic since Khanid is the only one who should have been emperor. Oh and I'm also guessing that Khanid's Heir should have been the next emperor and such and soforth. Why even have a succession!? Oh that's right, in Khanid they don't. The Khanid don't believe in succession and therefore they are heretics. So am I but the difference being I know I am.

I wonder about the Khanid sometimes though, for how they claim to tow the Amarr line they decide to work with forigners on many occasions. Very interesting considering that they believe themselves to be above such activity. Some people forget that Religion isn't about what's doing best for yourself, it's about following the scriptures.

I'm sure I'll get to see Ardor and friends in eternal damnation land and we can all have a nice game of checkers, how does that sound?

Discorporation
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.05.09 19:28:00 - [10]
 

Graelyn, should the current trend of Emperors being complete pansies continue, the Empire will cease to exist. The Reclaiming will be removed from religious teachings, scoured from the Scriptures like many old Edicts and texts.

Dogma changes as each Emperor adds his own point of view to how the Empire is run. Eventually, it may have dilute sufficiently to disintegrate our unity.

This is what Amarr faces.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.05.09 19:50:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Graelyn on 09/05/2005 19:55:53

Do you believe that the case of the Tetrimon, still under deliberation by the Theology Council, will have any effect on this? I do.

I have no illusions that a violent, glourious reclaiming may well lie in our future. Should this be the case, every hand shall be at the guns. Until that time comes, we will persue peaceful attepts, while attacking the enemies of the Empire that a paramilitary Alliance realistically can, threats the Amarr Navy are incapable or unwilling to engage head on.

The need for unity is great. The fact that we can work well with Ubiqa Serpah, a hard-line reclaiming group if ever one was, should prove what we are prepared to do should the time come.

Until then, we fight for the ideals of the Pax. While it is attainable, we will persue it.

Discorporation
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.05.09 20:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Graelyn
Edited by: Graelyn on 09/05/2005 19:55:53

Do you believe that the case of the Tetrimon, still under deliberation by the Theology Council, will have any effect on this? I do.


Optimist.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.09 21:19:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Graelyn

House Sarum, a major arm of our military, has been weakened considerably without a leader.


It is very much unlikely house Sarum is without a leader after such a long time. I dont believe house Sarum is weak. Its the strongest remaining royal family inside the Amarr Empire.

Originally by: Graelyn

Start your reclaiming HERE at home!


Yes, that day will hopefully come very soon. The Amarr Empire needs a cleansing from weak minded Amarrians who call inferior beings their brothers and sisters instead of enslaving them. The Amarrian leadership of today does nothing else but trying to degenerate the amarrian race to the sublevel of the other races. If this continues you will have a population of bastards very soon. I would have said to the gallente: You can stick your Aidonis award into your *cough*. Nothing can competete with Gods chosen people. True Amarrian blood is superior to all.

Originally by: Graelyn

Your assertion that Emperors Hiederan and Doriam agree on this idea only furthers my arguement I would think.


First, please learn how to spell the names of your Emperors.
Second, history is the evidence of Heiderans failure. Derelik, Molden Heath, Heimatar, Metropolis and the Khanid Kingdom all once were a part of the Amarr Empire. 5 regions from once 13 regions are no longer under control of the Amarr Empire. Heideran lost every war he started. To avoid more havoc Heideran gave more and more power into the hands of non Amarrians. The Nefantar tribe now controls Derelik and the Udorians bought a seat in the Privy council. Its only a question of time until an Udorian becomes Emperor. Do you think our ancestors who fought more than 500 years against the Udorians and who gave their lives on the battlefield for the Reclaiming would rejoice to see an Udorian Emperor ruling over true Amarrian blood? Pax Amarria and the Aidonis award are the only things he accomplished. Very much questionable to call this an accomplishment.

Originally by: Graelyn

Do you believe that the case of the Tetrimon, still under deliberation by the Theology Council, will have any effect on this? I do.


Yes. Tetrimon are utterly convinced of the superiority of the Amarr race -- intellectually, spiritually, even biologically. This is something I miss in the statements of modern wannabe traditionalists.

Originally by: Graelyn

The need for unity is great. The fact that we can work well with Ubiqa Serpah, a hard-line reclaiming group if ever one was, should prove what we are prepared to do should the time come.


Yes, the need for unity is great. Untill today nobody ever defeated a united Amarr Empire. The day of unity will come when true faith returns to the Amarr Empire and when Pax Amarria is nothing else but fuel.

Ubiqa Serpah? A hard-line reclaiming group? With Minmatar in their high council? Hahaha. Untill today Sabaoth is the only hard-line reclaiming group. Dont confuse the old Sabaoth with the so called Sabaoth representant-fools of today, though.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.05.09 21:34:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Ardor
I really dont care if you you work side by side with foreigners. Some of those foreigners are trying really hard to get a status like most Ni-Kunni have today. And I have respect for those who try to reach enlightment.


Originally by: Ardor
The Amarr Empire needs a cleansing from weak minded Amarrians who call inferior beings their brothers and sisters instead of enslaving them.


There's a point of your arguement I'm not quite clear on, Ardor....Neutral

Bokudo
Amarr
Mission Alts
Posted - 2005.05.09 22:21:00 - [15]
 

The enemy of our generation is upon us, this enemy isn't the same our fore fathers faced it is a different sort, one which requires a different attitude.

Everyday pirates, anarchists and terrorists are engaged in AMARR space. They enter our borders attack and then retreat into the safety of their home.

To charge off into new conflicts while the wounds of our nation are so pronounced is foolish.

Our enemy are upon us this is our war.

Pulgor
Posted - 2005.05.09 22:40:00 - [16]
 

For a superior being, Ardor sure dosn't see the need to justify himself to us lessers. Fortunately I only need to believe in your superiority for it to exist. Since I do not, it makes confronting your type on equal terms much more easier.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.09 23:28:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Graelyn
Originally by: Ardor
I really dont care if you you work side by side with foreigners. Some of those foreigners are trying really hard to get a status like most Ni-Kunni have today. And I have respect for those who try to reach enlightment.


Originally by: Ardor
The Amarr Empire needs a cleansing from weak minded Amarrians who call inferior beings their brothers and sisters instead of enslaving them.


There's a point of your arguement I'm not quite clear on, Ardor....Neutral


My statements are not contrary.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.09 23:59:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Bokudo
Everyday pirates, anarchists and terrorists are engaged in AMARR space. They enter our borders attack and then retreat into the safety of their home.

To charge off into new conflicts while the wounds of our nation are so pronounced is foolish.

Our enemy are upon us this is our war.


Yes, thats true. I say throw them out and close the borders.

Originally by: Bokudo
The enemy of our generation is upon us, this enemy isn't the same our fore fathers faced it is a different sort, one which requires a different attitude.


Sorry for quoting your first paragraph at the end but it makes more sense for my argumentation: Once they are thrown out you will see they are very much the same enemies our forefathers had to face: godless foreign heathen.


I must admit the Khanid Kingdom isnt much different in handling the problem of foreigners. Concord and DED stations in Neyi, Khitaled, Ipref and Agil are a thorrn in my eye.

Today the space of the Amarr Empire and the Khanid Kingdom are nothing but places to earn and to spend money like any other place in the universe. Gallentean drug dealers and minmatar criminals are widely spread all over holy territory once reclaimed in the name of God. They spread disease, corruption, **** and any other godless sin you can think of. Our youth gets poisened and starts to forget our fate ordained by God. Amarrians flying in foreign ships side by side with foreigners dont help to show amarrian superiority.

Lord Artemis
Dark Seraph
Order of the Black Cross
Posted - 2005.05.10 00:17:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ardor
Originally by: Graelyn

The need for unity is great. The fact that we can work well with Ubiqa Serpah, a hard-line reclaiming group if ever one was, should prove what we are prepared to do should the time come.


Yes, the need for unity is great. Untill today nobody ever defeated a united Amarr Empire. The day of unity will come when true faith returns to the Amarr Empire and when Pax Amarria is nothing else but fuel.

Ubiqa Serpah? A hard-line reclaiming group? With Minmatar in their high council? Hahaha. Untill today Sabaoth is the only hard-line reclaiming group. Dont confuse the old Sabaoth with the so called Sabaoth representant-fools of today, though.


Funny you should mention spelling, I have noticed more errors in your posts then in the entire thread.

Ubiqua Seraph and Aegis Militia are simply a group of people dedicated to the reclaiming cause. Those individuals that are willing to fight and die by my side are the strength we possess a unity in itself that has proven effective. In the end we are all serving on the same side and once we throw away our prejudice stances we can truly be one for the cause.

Bokudo
Amarr
Mission Alts
Posted - 2005.05.10 00:32:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Ardor
godless foreign heathen.


Sadly many are amarrians, our own people have begun to support the rebelious causes.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.10 02:51:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Lord Artemis
Funny you should mention spelling, I have noticed more errors in your posts then in the entire thread.


Excuse me, it wasnt meant as an offense. The language on the Galnet isnt my native language. So yes, I expect to make mistakes and I will continue. I hope you still can understand what I am talking about. At least I can spell the names of the Emperors and corporations of Aegis Militia.

Misspelling Ubiqua Seraph in the same way like Graelyn did was meant as a joke.

Originally by: Graelyn
Ubiqa Serpah


I wrote: Ubiqa Serpah?
Get it?


Originally by: Bokudo

Sadly many are amarrians, our own people have begun to support the rebelious causes.


Yes, that's becoming more and more a problem. All starts pretty harmless with mining operations side by side with foreigners. Foreign Empires send their agitators into popular amarrian systems. You can see the agents of evil everywhere hiding under the protection of Concord.

Greed is the first sin manipulating our youth. Soon they join a multi-racial corporation seduced by the promise to earn more isk. Once they are under a foreign CEO they learn the full spectrum of sins. The whole time they have to listen to foul foreign propaganda. Over and over and over they have to listen, until they start to believe that pure blooded Amarrians are not superior. In the end they have been brain washed and join the side of smelly subhumans to fight their own race, Gods chosen people.

I am pleased to see that the CVA is an Amarr only alliance fitting the role to be a good example for the youth. You are doing this job better than some of the Heirs. Your loyality to Doriam is misplaced, though. Born in the Empire you never learned to know it better. I will do my very best to help you to find the path of virtue.

Lord Artemis
Dark Seraph
Order of the Black Cross
Posted - 2005.05.10 03:10:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Lord Artemis on 10/05/2005 03:11:10
Pardon me I forgot to recognize your superior knowledge as to how AM & CVA need to be run. Start your own thread for preaching, your attempts to point out fallacies in our alliances is disrespectful at best since you do not possess adequate knowledge of either.

I recognize the experts on CVA and AM are the members of those alliances.

Fasute Sethnakte
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.05.10 04:17:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Ardor
Untill today Sabaoth is the only hard-line reclaiming group. Dont confuse the old Sabaoth with the so called Sabaoth representant-fools of today, though.


How quaint...

Well, I cannot lie and say Metatron was just as good as Sabaoth. Unfortunately some things can be reproduced without the original materials, namely one important ingredient. If you don't know what it is, then don't pretend to know so much about Sabaoth.

But don't think just because the experiment failed that things aren't happening. Sabaoth is adapting to serve its purposes, for the betterment of the Empire. We just don't have the muscle of the CVA to back it up anymore. But a well placed stab is just as effective as an overhead clubbing.

As for the "so called Sabaoth representant-fools of today" comment, there's a damn good reason I have the chimera tattooed on my right shoulder, and it isn't because it's a pretty graphic.

Have an interesting day, citizen...

Star Hawk
Posted - 2005.05.10 16:33:00 - [24]
 


dudes ! dudes ! dudes !

While you are all squabbling over dese Amarrian policies-- my caldari ship is in badly need of repairs. Those last few fights aganst the Minmatar Terrorists really dented the armor... by the way.. anyone got a couple of handy engineers near by?? The head in my ship is all backed up to the bridge.
Phew!!! Hey... and by the way?? Wheres my monthly credits ?? Blowing up pirate scum and minmatar is not cheap you know.... I really could use a few extra isk for that new Titan that i ordered from ShimSham Enterprises....sheez Rolling Eyes

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.05.10 17:38:00 - [25]
 

I would suggest that if Ardor wishes to gain anything but total condemnation from those still loyal to the Emperor and not to his heretical King... that he watch his tongue.

The idealogy followed by Doriam II does not deny the reclaiming, it just changes the tactics of it. Obviously Khanid agrees with him at least somewhat, as he is working so incredibly well with the Caldari.

The reclaiming shall not end, the methodology of it must change as the world changes, or do you think that we should never change anything and that our armies should still be useing the weapons used in the war agains the Udorians?

One day everyone will follow the correct God. That day, however, does not have to be within this lifetime. Wait till the time is right, and do not falter from the faith. Doing anything else would be against God's will and would delay further the inevitable annexation of the entirety of creation into the correct faith.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.05.10 19:01:00 - [26]
 

Thank you all for your participation in this debate about the Pax Amarria. I must act this harsh way so some of you wake up. When I look at the responses I know I reached the right people.

See my words as a friendly advice. I know I can not change your minds in one day but the faithful knows deep inside his heart my words are the truth. I know there are true religious reclaimers among you in the Empire.

Pulgor
Posted - 2005.05.10 19:08:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Ardor
Thank you all for your participation in this debate about the Pax Amarria. I must act this harsh way so some of you wake up. When I look at the responses I know I reached the right people.

See my words as a friendly advice. I know I can not change your minds in one day but the faithful knows deep inside his heart my words are the truth. I know there are true religious reclaimers among you in the Empire.


I still hope you're up for a game of chess when we're both in enternal damnation land.


 

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