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Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:19:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Of course... the Ni'kunni are evil.

So its ok if I fight the Emperors holders and go against the Emperor's will and still claim Im a loyalist.


I have not gone against his will... but I do go against those who would hold him hostage, yes.

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So you really think Im a part of an anti-Emperor Ni'kunni conspiracy...


No, I think you and the other True Amarrians who follow Hardin are stooges who dances to their song.

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Really now think about that... how does the CVA exactly control the Emperor in any way shape or form? Im really interested to hear how someone we are accused of being slaves of/unthinking tools of ect is under our control. I would have gotten the impression it was the other way around.


Umm... I never claimed that people were unthinking tools of the Emperor... but what I do consider is the fact that our last Emperor was murdered for embracing the path of internationalism and peace (and dare I say it... possible emancipation?) by those who had planned to see victory in the next Succession but who were defeated by someone as progressive (if not more so) then his predecessor! And so then it was time to put the dagger to his throat. The most he has been allowed to do is declare a desire for fair treatment. When he's tried to free slaves in the past, he's been slammed for it... but they are leaking out bit by bit.

Why, just the other day, 400 freed slaves were given to me by the Emperor family... freedmen I promptly restored to the Republic.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:21:00 - [32]
 

I received that offer too, from the Ministry of Internal Order. It stated that they were too old to work or be any use at all. Congratulations on your freeing of old, useless Minmatars.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:22:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Kostantin Mort

Lacking in popular support, eh? What about the Mamet 500?


What about the Mamet 500?

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I should also remind you of a tiny little article that I had the pleasure of being part of. If I recall correctly, it states that the CVA and PIE is much-beloved, but then again my aging memory could be wrong...


Yes, it states that CVA and PIE are much-beloved by the special interest groups who fund them...

Shira writes that down in her notepad

Thanks for giving me more ammunition.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:23:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Kostantin Mort
I received that offer too, from the Ministry of Internal Order. It stated that they were too old to work or be any use at all. Congratulations on your freeing of old, useless Minmatars.


I didn't free them... the government did.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:24:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Umm... I never claimed that people were unthinking tools of the Emperor... but what I do consider is the fact that our last Emperor was murdered


Heideran VII was murdered was he? And I suppose you know who was behind it? Let me guess, it was all a Ni-Kunni conspiracy!

Your mask is slowly slipping, Shira.

You are not the liberal that you pretend to be, but a paranoid racist intent on bringing down the Empire.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:26:00 - [36]
 

We fund ourselves, first of all. We receive no outside funding and we don't want any, either. I've always wondered, also, what you meant by the Amarr working class. The only working class I see in the Empire is the Ni-Kunni. Slaves do all the menial jobs. In other words, your True Amarr, freedom-loving work group doesn't exist and thus must be just a figment of your imagination. Of course, you could be fighting for the Ni-Kunni, but you stated previously that you hate them...

Skinman
SK-AR Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:27:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Skinman
Edited by: Skinman on 25/04/2005 14:53:34
My life for God.

My life for the Emperor.

My life for the Empire.

My life for C.V.A.

ISK is of no concern to anyone who is faithful, be they Ni-Kunni or otherwise.


I won't deny that... but I will say that many who dress themselves in the garb of the righteous are really concerned about their own purses.


If you will not deny that, then remove your insuations that it is the Ni-Kunni that are the largest race guilty of what you claim.

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Skinman
Your racist insunations that such as I, would hold more value in myself, than that of God or the Empire are, quite frankly, demeaning and slanderous.


This coming from someone who condones holding other people in chains... Rolling Eyes As I said before... I am merely being intoleratant to intolerance...


I don't condone it.. I activaly participate in 'holding other people in chanins', although there are not chains needed, as all my slaves are well cared for, and recieve much better treatment than they would if I where to 'set them free'.

However, careing for my slaves does not make me racist, infact it would make me the opposite, as I pro-activley care for lesser beings. Your comments however, clearly expose your hatred of those that serve the Empire.

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Skinman
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Those that are damned, are those that loose faith, and succumb to their own desires to avoid conflict for what is right.


And those who think they have the right to say who is damned and who is not has already made himself God in his own eyes... one who makes God's decisions for him is faithless... and that is why CVA, whenever they open their mouths and show their forked tongues, will always be wrong.



To insinuate that I make Gods decisions is false and uncalled for. I follow the Emperors' orders and decrees at all times. For me to say that those that stray from the path of light are damned, is nothing more than re-iterating thousands of years of law, by which this Holy Empire was built. By your own actions and words, you are a heretic, and are damned as one.

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Btw, keep the Ni-Kunni members of CVA coming... I'm adding them to my list... and proving just how serious the infiltration is... and showing that CVA is just a conspiracy of Ni-Kunni money changers in a quest to control our beloved Emperor.


Again your megalomanical tendancies are showing. We Ni-Kunni have embraced the glory of God and Empire, and will happily die defending both. You on the other hand? May God forgive me for insulting a 'true' Amarrian.. you are no better than the rubbish, the likes of the Star Fraction gypsies, leave floating outside true Citizens of the Empire's hangars.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:31:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Graelyn on 25/04/2005 15:31:59
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 25/04/2005 15:08:15
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Shira, your ideals have just gone from crazy to laughable. The peaceful way didn't work, so now you have gone to fighting...


Nope. I just realized that people respond better to hatred than to peace... every ideology needs a Devil for people to embrace it...


"In times as treacherous as these, peace may seem like a distant illusion, but we must never stop fighting to achieve and maintain it. Disruptive forces seek tirelessly to tear us apart and it is easy for the weak-minded to follow the Flow.
It is up to you, strong of mind and spirit, to hold high the torch of peace; to fall in a war of hate is a disgrace, to fall fighting for peace is a virtue that few can aspire to. But isn't it better to die trying than never to try at all?"
-Emperor Heideraan II

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 15:54:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Skinman

If you will not deny that, then remove your insuations that it is the Ni-Kunni that are the largest race guilty of what you claim.


An enormous leap in logic on your part to go from my admittance that ISK is of no concern to the faithful to that given that fact, the Ni-Kunni must not be concerned with ISK... nothing I said there gives any creedance to the idea that the Ni-Kunni are faithful.

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I don't condone it.. I activaly participate in 'holding other people in chanins', although there are not chains needed, as all my slaves are well cared for, and recieve much better treatment than they would if I where to 'set them free'.

However, careing for my slaves does not make me racist, infact it would make me the opposite, as I pro-activley care for lesser beings. Your comments however, clearly expose your hatred of those that serve the Empire.


Lesser beings? Sounds like racism to me...

And I don't hate those who serve the Empire... I hate those who undermine the Empire... I hate those who dress themselves as priests and heroes of the faith and really only have their own interests at heart. At least the Gallente don't hide beyond something true and good... they are openly money-grubbing.

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To insinuate that I make Gods decisions is false and uncalled for. I follow the Emperors' orders and decrees at all times. For me to say that those that stray from the path of light are damned, is nothing more than re-iterating thousands of years of law, by which this Holy Empire was built. By your own actions and words, you are a heretic, and are damned as one.


I have remained faithful to Scripture and to the Emperor. And I have remained faithful to God. And part of doing so is by admitting that Scripture is the only Law of God! All else is the law of man... and as the law of man, it is subject to change... and it is not heretical to question it. But to claim that your law is the Law of God because you said so... and to claim that you know who is damned and who is not is heretical by its very nature... You reach conclusions that you do not have the authority to conclude!

And no one in CVA or Aegis Militia has EVER given a reasonable response to that accusation. They skirt around it because they have no answer... From everything I've seen, CVA would rather have God as their public relations person... there to rubber stamp everything they say as fact merely because they say it. It doesn't work that way.

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis

Again your megalomanical tendancies are showing. We Ni-Kunni have embraced the glory of God and Empire, and will happily die defending both. You on the other hand? May God forgive me for insulting a 'true' Amarrian.. you are no better than the rubbish, the likes of the Star Fraction gypsies, leave floating outside true Citizens of the Empire's hangars.


Again... you claim to be willing to die for glory of God and Empire... but until your actions, in keeping with Imperial decree, start going against your financial interests, I shall continue to deny your piety.

As for calling me rubbish... I've been called worse things by better men than you. And as I told Mort... soon, we shall see if the True Amarrians come to save your hides...

Originally by: Graelyn
Edited by: Graelyn on 25/04/2005 15:31:59
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 25/04/2005 15:08:15
Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Shira, your ideals have just gone from crazy to laughable. The peaceful way didn't work, so now you have gone to fighting...


Nope. I just realized that people respond better to hatred than to peace... every ideology needs a Devil for people to embrace it...


"In times as treacherous as these, peace may seem like a distant illusion, but we must never stop fighting to achieve and maintain it. Disruptive forces seek tirelessly to tear us apart and it is easy for the weak-minded to follow the Flow.
It is up to you, strong of mind and spirit, to hold high the torch of peace; to fall in a war of hate is a disgrace, to fall fighting for peace is a virtue that few can aspire to. But isn't it better to die trying than never to try at all?"
-Emperor Heideran II


Apparently, you do not appreciate the facetious… my fault! I’ll try to be more direct next time… The enemies of peace are the ones I have a problem with. Hate is a strong word… strongly dislike is a better one. I combat the same people who killed dear Heideran.

Golan Trevize
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:02:00 - [40]
 

Purge the unclean , burn the heretic.


Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:04:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Golan Trevize
Purge the unclean , burn the heretic.



Go ahead and try... the Reformation shall burn you and your dark knights like a wheat field in a high wind...

Archbishop
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:21:00 - [42]
 


Amarr is eternal. Any talk otherwise is unwise and blasphemy. To even suggest God has failed and his chosen are doomed is incomprehensible. We are the eternal empire and we will not fail in our holy duty.

Amarr has driven as iron through hard times and challenges. The Jovian meance, the Gallante trechery, the Minmatar rebellion. We are still here and we are steadfast in our determination to succeed.

God has chosen us to be his light in this evil universe. We shall not fail.

Archbishop

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:24:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Archbishop

Amarr is eternal. Any talk otherwise is unwise and blasphemy. To even suggest God has failed and his chosen are doomed is incomprehensible. We are the eternal empire and we will not fail in our holy duty.

Amarr has driven as iron through hard times and challenges. The Jovian meance, the Gallante trechery, the Minmatar rebellion. We are still here and we are steadfast in our determination to succeed.

God has chosen us to be his light in this evil universe. We shall not fail.

Archbishop



Now there's a statement I can agree with.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:29:00 - [44]
 

Yeah you do nothing but act against those words. Your duplicity is outstanding.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:30:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Yeah you do nothing but act against those words. Your duplicity is outstanding.


Small words from a small man... but look at it this way... at least we're not talking about post-humanism.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:34:00 - [46]
 

Worthless words from a woman with delusions of greatness. Shira, you are deluded and bitter. You should realise that shouting your crazy ideals here on Galnet is not helping you at all.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:37:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Worthless words from a woman with delusions of greatness. Shira, you are deluded and bitter. You should realise that shouting your crazy ideals here on Galnet is not helping you at all.


Well, when you are right... you are right... your opinion and the opinion of your corp and your alliance are obsolete and irrelevant. I shouldn't be wasting valuable breath arguing with you.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:41:00 - [48]
 

Ah, creating words that are not mine. You must be getting very desperate. Oh well, my duties are attending. I will entertain by ridiculing you another time.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:45:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Ah, creating words that are not mine. You must be getting very desperate. Oh well, my duties are attending. I will entertain by ridiculing you another time.


Bah! I created no words to be attributed to you. You said shouting "crazy" ideals here was not helping me at all... and you're right... that's what I said. The rest of it was all my own creation. Wink

Skinman
SK-AR Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:47:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Skinman on 25/04/2005 16:52:24
Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
..you claim to be willing to die for glory of God and Empire... but until your actions, in keeping with Imperial decree, start going against your financial interests, I shall continue to deny your piety.


I have died for God.
I have died for the Emeperor.
I have died for the Empire.
I have died for C.V.A.

My actions are not in question.

My financial status appears to be your concern.. and at current standing, I have no problems making it public that I am currently striving to replace an Armageddon that was lost in service to C.V.A. in Misaba, fighting against those that you so easily ignore as the true threats against the Empire..

What have you done for the Empire in recent weeks may I ask? Except turn to the dark and become a heretic?

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:47:00 - [51]
 

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I shouldn't be wasting valuable breath arguing with you.


*sigh* But you will, as long as there is a spotlight on you.

It's quite sad, really. Your cause did have it's supporters. Even among some in my social circles.

This quick burst of verbal diarrhea has silenced those voices. Those who hope for peace will have to find someone else to admire.

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:48:00 - [52]
 

Sarcasm will get you nowhere, you know Very Happy

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:52:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Skinman

I have died for God.
I have died for the Emeperor.
I have died for the Empire.
I have died for C.V.A.


And yet you live to tell about it! Lawd! Lawd!

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My financial status appears to be your concern.. and at current standing, I have no problems making it public that I am currently striving to replace an Armageddon that was lost in service to C.V.A. in Misaba, fighting against those that you so easily ignore as the true threats against the Empire..


Yes... in service to the CVA... I don't believe you were called upon by the Empire to sacrifice your ship and your life... both of which can readily be replaced I might add.


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What have you done for the Empire in recent weeks may I ask? Expect turn to the dark and become a heretic?


I've been doing work for the Emperor Family and Amarr Certified News... but that's neither here nor there... such public services are inconsequential compared to the real service I have been doing... Smile

Golan Trevize
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:57:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Golan Trevize
Purge the unclean , burn the heretic.



Go ahead and try... the Reformation shall burn you and your dark knights like a wheat field in a high wind...


Be gratefull that you have been noticed ,i might even show you the mercy of termimating your pitifull existence should i stumble upon you.


Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 16:59:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Golan Trevize

Be gratefull that you have been noticed ,i might even show you the mercy of termimating your pitifull existence should i stumble upon you.





Rolling Eyes

Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine...

Skinman
SK-AR Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.04.25 17:02:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Skinman

I have died for God.
I have died for the Emeperor.
I have died for the Empire.
I have died for C.V.A.


And yet you live to tell about it! Lawd! Lawd!

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My financial status appears to be your concern.. and at current standing, I have no problems making it public that I am currently striving to replace an Armageddon that was lost in service to C.V.A. in Misaba, fighting against those that you so easily ignore as the true threats against the Empire..


Yes... in service to the CVA... I don't believe you were called upon by the Empire to sacrifice your ship and your life... both of which can readily be replaced I might add.


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What have you done for the Empire in recent weeks may I ask? Expect turn to the dark and become a heretic?


I've been doing work for the Emperor Family and Amarr Certified News... but that's neither here nor there... such public services are inconsequential compared to the real service I have been doing... Smile


Service to C.V.A is service to the Empire, until the Emperor himself says otherwise, and as C.V.A. seems to be in his favour for the time being, you have no point with that argument.

Yes ships and Pod pilots lifes can be readily replaced, but by arguing that.. are you not now backtracking on your insinuation, that Ni-Kunni like myself would rather make ISK than serve God and Empire?

So which is it heretic? Am I serving God and Empire, or am I more inclined to be making ISK? You seem to be of two minds on this issue.. are you sure you didn't get your drink spiked last time you visited La Maison?

And for your previous comments, I would ask that a representive from Emperor Family removes your security status and negates any loyalty from their agents.. as it is quite evident that you have no loyalty to the Emperor, God or the Empire as a whole.

Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 17:04:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Golan Trevize

Be gratefull that you have been noticed ,i might even show you the mercy of termimating your pitifull existence should i stumble upon you.





Rolling Eyes

Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine...


You attention whoring piece of trash!

I will see you dead for the insolence of speaking up against the Admiral. Not once, but twice you damned yourself to hell.

Fasute Sethnakte
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2005.04.25 17:08:00 - [58]
 

In light of Shira d'Radonis' lapse into psychosis, I propose she be stripped of her seat on the SPCS.

She does not possess the right state of mind to decide the fate of servants.

Shira d'Radonis
Amarr
The Amarr Mission
Posted - 2005.04.25 17:21:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Skinman
Service to C.V.A is service to the Empire, until the Emperor himself says otherwise, and as C.V.A. seems to be in his favour for the time being, you have no point with that argument.


Ya know… it’s interesting how the double standard is again evoked by CVA… when I say the same thing, you claim that the Emperor’s silence is indicative of my guilt as a heretic. But when it applies to you, you’re a bunch of heroes….

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Yes ships and Pod pilots lifes can be readily replaced, but by arguing that.. are you not now backtracking on your insinuation, that Ni-Kunni like myself would rather make ISK than serve God and Empire?


Ok… I admit it… you lost me on that one…. How am I backtracking by saying that???


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So which is it heretic? Am I serving God and Empire, or am I more inclined to be making ISK? You seem to be of two minds on this issue.. are you sure you didn't get your drink spiked last time you visited La Maison?


Ok…. You’re either making one of your astronomical leaps in logic again… or you’re just putting words in my mouth… but I’m pretty sure I never said you were serving God and Empire… merely that you say you are.

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And for your previous comments, I would ask that a representive from Emperor Family removes your security status and negates any loyalty from their agents.. as it is quite evident that you have no loyalty to the Emperor, God or the Empire as a whole.


Well, I guess we should be grateful that partisan fanatics like you don’t make the rules then.


Originally by: Gaius Kador
You attention whoring piece of trash!

I will see you dead for the insolence of speaking up against the Admiral. Not once, but twice you damned yourself to hell.


First of all, your “admiral” is sitting in a fictitious position of an illegitimate paramilitary group that has not been given official sanction by the Emperor… let alone God.

And Gaius… c’mon now… I’ve run circles around you so many times now, I don’t even know why you bother spitting out your rhetoric anymore… but, in case I can still get through to you, you do not determine who goes to hell and who doesn’t… and unless God whispered to you in your sleep or something, you are vastly outside of your authority to make such a declaration. CVA’s word is not Law. The Lord does not tailor his Words to suit your needs.

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In light of Shira d'Radonis' lapse into psychosis, I propose she be stripped of her seat on the SPCS.

She does not possess the right state of mind to decide the fate of servants.


That’s up to the SPCS… *shrugs*

Kostantin Mort
Naqam
Exalted.
Posted - 2005.04.25 17:32:00 - [60]
 

What you fail to realise, Shira, is that the empire does back us. We have the traditionalists on our side, we have a recipent of the Sacred Throne in our corporation and we even the Chamberlein got involved in our affairs. I can't say the same thing about you.


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