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Sessho Seki
Posted - 2005.04.04 19:47:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: ErrorS
can we please remove instas? i wanna fly one of these with an escort... don't force me to run it like I would an industrial :(

please.. it would be fun


Such heresy! Such blasphemy!

Wash your mouth out with soap!

ollobrains
5th Front enterprises
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2005.04.05 03:42:00 - [92]
 

has soap at the ready but still thinks the 40,000, 60,000 and 80,000 intermediate frigates should be considered as well - level it up on freighter skills.

Up to CCP though

Erik Pathfinder
Caldari
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2005.04.05 07:38:00 - [93]
 

I just saw the frieghter pics and,

OMFGDOTHEYLOOKAWESOME!!!

*drool*

MrShooter
Caldari
Posted - 2005.04.05 22:03:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: mahhy
The Amarr one looks like a GIGANTIC Amarr noob ship Very Happy


LaughingI was thinking the same thing...
"Revenge of the amarr noobships"

How slow are the freighters? 20 m/s slow?

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2005.04.06 12:51:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Oveur
No details will be released on Freighters at this point in time, we haven't even started playtesting! But I can tell you this, since it has been floating around:

They are station to station, but can of course go between solar systems! We just mean you can not mine into it nor can you empty a can that has been mined into.

They do not have jumpdrives.

They are not as big as the screenshots show, the perspective makes them seem bigger. Think roughly 2x the size of a battleship.

They are damn slow, achieved through various means.


Will they be able to drop stuff into POS modules like corphangar arrays?

And is 100k m³ hold realistic? I thought they'd have much more tbh.

Ronin Woman
Posted - 2005.04.06 19:22:00 - [96]
 

I definately want one.

Skills? Bah- whatever it takes.

But the ability to actually buy & insure one Crying or Very sad

Well maybe next yearugh

Ikvar
A Blue Goat
Posted - 2005.04.06 20:05:00 - [97]
 

Some new pics I took:
Linkage

Check the videos forum for my video of them.

Xavier Arron
Minmatar
The Knights of Ni
Posted - 2005.04.06 20:41:00 - [98]
 

IMHO they should be able to dock at a POS. This would make them very useful in transfering large amounts of ore and loot to other POS or stations to be refined.

E.g. you could setup a small POS in a system with only a few defences and a corp hanger to hold ore. Mine for a few days and transfer all the ore out to either a larger POS with intensive refining array or to a station refinery.

Heck it may even be worth hauling ore back to empire again like in the old days.

Perhaps have a new POS module, some sort of cargo transfer array or cargo dock or something.

herot
Fortunis - Redux
Posted - 2005.04.06 21:21:00 - [99]
 

One thing is clear:...
The Gallente freighters are going to be über in combat... The opposition will just die of asphyxiation as they laugh themselves to death. Sad

Survey
Posted - 2005.04.06 23:05:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Gabriel Karade
Someone mentioned something about volumes and 'realism'. Well not wanting to spoil the party and all, but Eve throws 'realism' out of the window as far as volumes are concerned, 100,000m^3 is pitiful for a ship that size.. Razz

look at a megathron, over a km in length, at least a third of that in width and a quarter in height, i.e around 80 million m^3 (and based on the density of 5% steel and 95% air around 30 million tonnes Razz)

Somone posted a screenshot of the gallente freighter next to a pair of megathrons, that thing could easily have a cubic km of cargo bay, i.e one billion m^3.

Alas, Eve > Realism



Yup..

Let's look at worlds largest real ship:

Name: Jahre Viking
IMO No: 7381154
Ex: Happy Giant, Seawise Giant
Built: 12/1976
Type: Tanker
Status: In service.
SubType: Crude
Flag: Norway (NIS)
DWT: 564,761 ( After reconstructing )
Draft: 24.61
Builder: Sumitomo H.I. (1016)
GT: 236,710
LOA: 458.45
Owner: Loki ASA
NT: 285
Beam: 68.86
Speed/Cons: 13.00/-
Class: NV
Depth: 29.80
Engine Type: Sumitomo Stal-Laval AP steam turbines, 50.000 PS, 37300 kW by 85 RPM
Cubic: 658,362


So a comparisation:

Mass
Jahre Viking: 565,000,000 kg
Iteron MkV: 11,750,000 kg


Cargo
Jahre Viking: 658,362 m^3
Iteron Mkv: 6,000 m^3

Minuz1
Shinra
Posted - 2005.04.07 05:38:00 - [101]
 

Think more like titanium/carbon fiber/diamond construction after 500 years of development from now.

But my guess is some sorts of polymers will win the contest though.

Jalia Kovac
Placid Reborn
Posted - 2005.04.07 07:03:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Verone
Is it just me or does the minmatar freighter look like one of those ships the "sand people" use in star wars on tatooine?Laughing


Yup, the Jawas' Sandcrawler! I was also thinking of the Colonial III from the Terran Trade Authority handbooks (if any of you out there remember these). Razz

Arcadia1701E
Gallente
Posted - 2005.04.07 11:56:00 - [103]
 

the Amarr one is a giant wood louse, but they al cool looking, now give us some SS of the titans, dreadnoughts and Stealthbomber .Very Happy

Vivus Mors
Posted - 2005.04.08 22:27:00 - [104]
 

there are plenty of Titan pics for Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar titans, however few (only one that I've seen) of the Caldari titan, let's get one of that...

as for the DN's, dunno if they've even been modeled, so while it would be cool to see them, I want progress on the freighters MUCH more since they are closer to being a "reality" for us.

Stealth bombers however I couldn't agree more on, some more stats (more final anyway) and such would be nice too...

Freighter info primarily please please please, and if you get around to it, throw us some more stealth bomber "table scraps" :D lol

Noriath
Posted - 2005.04.08 23:04:00 - [105]
 

Someone posted a video of the Freighters in the vid section of the boards...

Why is the Gallante freighter so damn ugly?! Crying or Very sad

Zoidberg ENB
Minmatar
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Fallen Angels Alliance
Posted - 2005.04.09 01:46:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Zoidberg ENB on 09/04/2005 01:46:42
It's funny that everyone says that. My favorite among them is the Gallente one. I don't like any of the others much but the Gallente one is possibly one of my favorite ships in the game. Is there something wrong with me?
Originally by: Noriath
Why is the Gallante freighter so damn ugly?! Crying or Very sad

Noriath
Posted - 2005.04.09 01:56:00 - [107]
 

I don't know...

equinox_-_freighters_on_singularity.wmv

This is the link to the Movie someone made about them...

You have to admit, compared to the streamlined form of an Amarr freighter the Gallante one just looks stupid, like a big flying spacebrick.

Vivus Mors
Posted - 2005.04.09 04:04:00 - [108]
 

I also think the Gallente freighter is neat looking.

I'm not going to say it's the best looking ship in the game or anything (DON'T CHANGE THE THREAD INTO THAT PLEASE), but I do like it.

in fact, I really do like all of the freighters.

of all the different classes of ships, that's the only class I really like all of the variants of.

I like the caldari version because it reminds me of a homeworld 2 carrier.

I like the Amarr version because it looks like the troop transports in Empire Strikes Back that were escaping from Hoth.

I like the Minmatar version because it looks like a Jawa sandcrawler.

and I really do like the gallente version because it's a big hulking ship that really does look precisely as a ship doing its job should, big, slow, heavy, and chunky.

it isn't a beauty contest, but I think all four of them look really good in their own ways, and I'm actually glad that the gallente ship is so different from the rest, and each one can truly be seen as quite different in overall design.

Yseult Atreus
Posted - 2005.04.09 08:48:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Yseult Atreus on 09/04/2005 08:52:16
Thing is, thr Gallente variant is the one we'll be seeing the most of at first because Itty 5 is the hauler of choice for miners and that requires Gallente Industrial lvl5 which will be a prereq for Gallente freighters. Can't see all the I5 drivers in the game tossing a level 5 skill away just cos they think another races Freighter looks cooler!

BTW: My take on the skill requirements fwiw.
Racial Industrial 5
Industry 5
Transport Ships 4
Jumpdrives 1

Vivus Mors
Posted - 2005.04.09 19:38:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Vivus Mors on 09/04/2005 19:38:38
Originally by: Yseult Atreus
Edited by: Yseult Atreus on 09/04/2005 08:52:16
Thing is, thr Gallente variant is the one we'll be seeing the most of at first because Itty 5 is the hauler of choice for miners and that requires Gallente Industrial lvl5 which will be a prereq for Gallente freighters. Can't see all the I5 drivers in the game tossing a level 5 skill away just cos they think another races Freighter looks cooler!

BTW: My take on the skill requirements fwiw.
Racial Industrial 5
Industry 5
Transport Ships 4
Jumpdrives 1


you know Oveur has already commented that Freighters will not have jump drives

while they are big, they just aren't that big, as in big to the point of Dreadnoughts, Carriers, and Titans, which have been hinted at having the jump drives.

Originally by: Oveur
No details will be released on Freighters at this point in time, we haven't even started playtesting! But I can tell you this, since it has been floating around:

They are station to station, but can of course go between solar systems! We just mean you can not mine into it nor can you empty a can that has been mined into.

They do not have jumpdrives.

They are not as big as the screenshots show, the perspective makes them seem bigger. Think roughly 2x the size of a battleship.

They are damn slow, achieved through various means.


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