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Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.25 07:02:00 - [1]
 

Hi all, id like to do some hisec ganking of Rtrievers and Hulks in a 0.5 system and as i'll be attempting this solo I have some questions:

For Retrievers i'd like to use a Neutron fit Catalyst, will this do the job solo?

For Hulks i'd also like to use a Neutron fit Brutix, will this do the job?

For Retrievers id just go at it, but for Hulks I guess I need to see how they are fit and what tank they have, so Passive targeter and ship scanner I assume are essential, however, how can I tell if i'll kill them before Concord arrive. With my skills I can get a Hulk with an EHP of almost 12k. Would a Brutix do the job, with my current skills and best named Neutrons and all Mag Stabs in the lows and Navy ammo I get a volley of 1653 and 518 DPS, do I need to add some rigs?

I have over 50 mill SP and a lot is in PvP type skills.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

DeBingJos
Minmatar
Goat Holdings
Posted - 2011.08.25 07:35:00 - [2]
 

EFT is your friend.

That said, I have no experience in the catalyst, but I have ganked retrievers with one thrasher (autocannon fit)

Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.25 07:38:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: DeBingJos
EFT is your friend.

That said, I have no experience in the catalyst, but I have ganked retrievers with one thrasher (autocannon fit)



Hmm I will check that out, and yes I have worked a bit with EFT although actual player experience is 'nearly' always more valuable then EFT. Thank you for responding, i'll certainly look into Thrasher also. Wink

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:44:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 25/08/2011 09:49:46

It's beyond easy to caulk a Hulk in 0.5 with a neutron Brutix. I've sunk dozens of Hulks and almost always it's been in a higher sec system than that. Check out my Brutix lossmails at this link to get an idea of what works. Every setup used there was successful.

1. You do not need a prop mod. Scout the belts in something inconspicuous and bookmark something within optimal range of the Hulk. Warp back with your Brutix.

2. Overheat.

3. Make sure CONCORD is on your overview. I... have forgotten this in the past. :(

4. If EFT says you do over 825 DPS within your optimal range, you're good to go in at least 0.5 and 0.6 systems unless the Hulk is sporting an active anti-hybrid resist tank, in which case it's a toss-up really. View ship and see if they have shield hardeners activated. If all they have are passive hardeners you should still be good.

Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.25 10:34:00 - [5]
 

Thanks for the info! I'll check out your link, I think when i get home from work i'll have some fun.

Also what is the importance of having Concord in the OV?

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.08.25 10:42:00 - [6]
 

In case someone else has already generated CONCORD at the belt you try to gank someone at. Sometimes it's because someone else suicided a miner in the same belt, but other times it's just a mining operation that deliberately suicided one of their own disposable alts in order to generate CONCORD at their mining site. Once CONCORD spawns in a belt, they apparently stay there until downtime, thus allowing immunity to those mining there (unless they get attacked by a suicide alpha Tempest, which is considerably more expensive than a suicide Brutix.)

If CONCORD is already on-site, the normal delay before CONCORD reacts is obviously negated.

Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.25 10:49:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Elizabetha Pith on 25/08/2011 10:49:53
After checking out your link acopying your fit (works great by the look of it lol) I get a 1346 volley and 532 DPS (without overheating). So i'll deffinately give it a go later.

Thank youfor your time answering my questions Wink

malcovas Henderson
Posted - 2011.08.25 12:48:00 - [8]
 

Basically all you can kill is those that cannot fight back. way to go spaceship hero Twisted Evil

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2011.08.25 13:53:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Skippermonkey on 25/08/2011 13:54:24
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
Basically all you can kill is those that cannot fight back. way to go spaceship hero Twisted Evil

Its called being creative, please cry more

also, i hope to God this is your alt, because your KB stats are dismal
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=malcovas Henderson#losses

shame the link doesnt work, EVE forums doesnt show it properly
try this one maybe?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=malcovas%20Henderson

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:08:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
In case someone else has already generated CONCORD at the belt you try to gank someone at. Sometimes it's because someone else suicided a miner in the same belt, but other times it's just a mining operation that deliberately suicided one of their own disposable alts in order to generate CONCORD at their mining site. Once CONCORD spawns in a belt, they apparently stay there until downtime, thus allowing immunity to those mining there (unless they get attacked by a suicide alpha Tempest, which is considerably more expensive than a suicide Brutix.)

If CONCORD is already on-site, the normal delay before CONCORD reacts is obviously negated.


IIRC, CONCORD will be on site for the length of the GCC, or around 15minutes. It could be longer than this, but they do certainly despawn within the hour.

malcovas Henderson
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:14:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: malcovas Henderson on 25/08/2011 15:17:40
Edited by: malcovas Henderson on 25/08/2011 15:14:27
Originally by: Skippermonkey
Edited by: Skippermonkey on 25/08/2011 13:54:24
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
Basically all you can kill is those that cannot fight back. way to go spaceship hero Twisted Evil

Its called being creative, please cry more

also, i hope to God this is your alt, because your KB stats are dismal
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=malcovas Henderson#losses






Awwwww do you find my KB shocking lololol. you baddie. KB's are not the be all and end all of eve. Good tho that you considered me good enough to KB police me. Now get out some times and see the REAL world.

And if you were to forum police. You'd see I wont cry. I actually like the fact I can be ganked. L2forum police instead


Double edit FTW
Kthnxbye

Griznatch
Gallente
Xicron Syndicate
Double Tap Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.25 16:27:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: malcovas Henderson
KB's are not the be all and end all of eve.



Since when?

Rick Venus
Minmatar
Matari Republican Army
Posted - 2011.08.25 23:11:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Griznatch
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
KB's are not the be all and end all of eve.



Since when?


Since Monocles.

Aggressive Nutmeg
Posted - 2011.08.26 02:07:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Aggressive Nutmeg on 26/08/2011 02:07:00
Originally by: Rick Venus
Originally by: Griznatch
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
KB's are not the be all and end all of eve.



Since when?


Since Monocles.


This guy just won the internet. You made me spit my lunch on my monitor. Very Happy

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.26 02:22:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: malcovas Henderson
Awwwww do you find my KB shocking lololol. you baddie. KB's are not the be all and end all of eve. Good tho that you considered me good enough to KB police me. Now get out some times and see the REAL world.

And if you were to forum police. You'd see I wont cry. I actually like the fact I can be ganked. L2forum police instead


Double edit FTW
Kthnxbye


This is a horrible post. Don't do this again.

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.08.26 20:35:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Skippermonkey
Edited by: Skippermonkey on 25/08/2011 13:54:24
Originally by: malcovas Henderson
Basically all you can kill is those that cannot fight back. way to go spaceship hero Twisted Evil

Its called being creative, please cry more

also, i hope to God this is your alt, because your KB stats are dismal
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=malcovas Henderson#losses

shame the link doesnt work, EVE forums doesnt show it properly
try this one maybe?
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=malcovas%20Henderson


so old is now creative?

wow, who knew

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.08.26 22:04:00 - [17]
 

no self respecting pvper gives a damn about killboards.

Rikeka
Eye of God
Posted - 2011.08.27 06:57:00 - [18]
 

Brutix is overkill for Hulks. Go Thorax.

Fit T1, gank fit, faction ammo, drones out and engage close.
Make sure of no CONCORD ships on the belt. Also check Hulk has no shield mods running.

Give little time for reaction, so try and warp to him at 0, and get fast on your optimal.

Don't be afraid of CONCORD that much, you'll get more than just a single volley.
Volley dmg only matters when you HAVE to kill it with a single volley. For example, people use/used to fit arties on other race ships to get the sure one-KO kill. But that only helps when CONCORD is already present on the grid. If no CONCORD presense on the belt you'll engage, you can get multiple volleys easy.

Gary Tekitsu
Posted - 2011.08.29 11:36:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Gary Tekitsu on 29/08/2011 11:37:48
Come low or null sec. Play with the boys who shoots you back. Laughing

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.08.29 17:58:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Herping yourDerp
no self respecting pvper gives a damn about killboards.


Too bad you're trolling, else I'd quote that. Confused

Awoxina Dojona
Posted - 2011.08.29 18:38:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Elizabetha Pith
Hi all, id like to do some hisec ganking of Rtrievers and Hulks in a 0.5 system and as i'll be attempting this solo I have some questions:

For Retrievers i'd like to use a Neutron fit Catalyst, will this do the job solo?

For Hulks i'd also like to use a Neutron fit Brutix, will this do the job?

For Retrievers id just go at it, but for Hulks I guess I need to see how they are fit and what tank they have, so Passive targeter and ship scanner I assume are essential, however, how can I tell if i'll kill them before Concord arrive. With my skills I can get a Hulk with an EHP of almost 12k. Would a Brutix do the job, with my current skills and best named Neutrons and all Mag Stabs in the lows and Navy ammo I get a volley of 1653 and 518 DPS, do I need to add some rigs?

I have over 50 mill SP and a lot is in PvP type skills.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Step one: edit your dumbface avatar to look less like Hilary Clinton
Step two: Die in a Fire

Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.31 05:58:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Awoxina Dojona
Step one: edit your dumbface avatar to look less like Hilary Clinton
Step two: Die in a Fire


Step one: edit your dumbface avatar to look less like a man.
Step two: no thank you.

Step three: Using the advice here I have had great fun ganking Macro Hulks in my home system and some retrievers as well.

Thanks again guys and gals.

Ventro69
Caldari
Manson Family
Corcoran State
Posted - 2011.08.31 08:13:00 - [23]
 

Don't go waste Brutix's. A T2 Thorax is plenty. I am too lazy to look for a better link, but here's an alt's page during Hulkageddon.

http://www.corcoranstate.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=11234&scl_id=22

Elizabetha Pith
Posted - 2011.08.31 09:15:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Ventro69
Don't go waste Brutix's. A T2 Thorax is plenty. I am too lazy to look for a better link, but here's an alt's page during Hulkageddon.

http://www.corcoranstate.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=11234&scl_id=22


Cheers i'll try the Thorax on another macro I know later today ;)

Ceylia Endashi
Posted - 2011.08.31 10:42:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: malcovas Henderson
Basically all you can kill is those that cannot fight back. way to go spaceship hero Twisted Evil


Serves them right for picking on defenceless asteroids!

Asteroids have rights too you know!

malcovas Henderson
Posted - 2011.08.31 11:40:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Ceylia Endashi


Serves them right for picking on defenceless asteroids!

Asteroids have rights too you know!



Not quite true. The Roids have Rats to defend them.Twisted Evil


 

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