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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.24 22:13:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Cista2 on 28/08/2011 10:37:17

Traders are notoriously known for not sharing information about good trade routes or profitable items. But why not?

I am based in Jita, and scan some market categories during the week, but I no longer daytrade. I only buy for stock. So I don’t mind tipping when I spot a manipulation or other form of spike that a daytrader can exploit. It could even be to my advantage.

For a period I will post some info on this thread. But you can also join the new “TRADE ALERTS” mail list and get the same info there.
The goal is of course that other traders will join and also start sharing some useful information.

Question Question: would you rather have this service restricted to the mail list? Please give input.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.24 22:16:00 - [2]
 

Some info from Jita today:

Data cores have had a rough time in recent months but
Electronic Engineering Data Core spiked to 210k isk
Slave Delta was pushed all the way up to 300 mil - margin is huge
Large Shield Extender II now spiking at 670K / 750K
Chromium keeps soaring and is now at 1700 / 2000 isk
Hexite now at 2800 / 3150
Titanium Carbide spiked to 110 a couple of days ago, and it's still there!

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.08.24 23:39:00 - [3]
 

Erm...datacore price drop isn't news, nor is the carbide spiking...Rolling Eyes

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.25 10:35:00 - [4]
 

From Jita today:

PI
Electrolytes is now up to 555 - watch out, it looks like they can jump to 575.

Ships
Falcon price has crashed with buy price now around 114 mil.
Rapier is also cheap @ 130 mil today.
Widow has been manipulated up to 700 mil, with buy price remained @ 570 mil

Companion Qube
Minmatar
Electron Conservation Inc
SRS.
Posted - 2011.08.25 11:51:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Companion Qube on 25/08/2011 12:30:50
Cista, your thread has given me a great idea!

I should buy a bunch of **** then post on the forums in a pseudo-helpful manner to drive the price up before I **** it all back out into the newly spiked buy orders.

Why has no one in eve ever thought of this?

edit: Hey, while we're at it - I already bought a ton of plex, it looks like they're heading for 400m again.

Companion Qube
Minmatar
Electron Conservation Inc
SRS.
Posted - 2011.08.26 10:56:00 - [6]
 

Fron Jita Today!

PLEX are up to around 389.9M, well on their way to 400 - spike them faster so I can cash out!

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.26 14:57:00 - [7]
 

News from Jita today:

T2
1400mm Howitzer II guns have driven way down to 2.9 mil / 3.1 mil
Invul Field II has also gone down with buy price now 930k isk

Also the Electronic Engineering Data Cores were now at 225 I think, in case you are sitting on some in another region it might be time to haul.

Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
Posted - 2011.08.26 17:14:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Oh''Freddled Gruntbuggly on 26/08/2011 17:14:26
Originally by: Cista2

For a period I will post some info on this thread. But you can also join the new “TRADE ALERTS” mail list and get the same info there.



You should try to do it more like The Gartman Letter, once a day but in Latin.


Sobaan Tuan
Posted - 2011.08.27 06:17:00 - [9]
 

I would pay isk for a daily in-game mail with this sort of stuff

Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.27 06:36:00 - [10]
 

Tech has flattened at 100k a unit. With that confidence and higher volumes almost all of the poor moon goo has increased by 30%. Makeing a killing on platinum at the moment.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.27 11:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Sobaan Tuan
I would pay isk for a daily in-game mail with this sort of stuff

Just join the "TRADE ALERTS" mail list.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.27 11:45:00 - [12]
 

From Jita

Moon materials
Fernite carbide got more or less wiped from the market today and currently sell @ 140 isk, buy order at 111 isk.

PI
Coolant took a healthy jump forward, now at 7100 / 7650
Electrolytes continue to surge, now at 575 / 720.
Robotics above 45k sell price for the highest price in 3 months
Rocket fuel also at new high with 8100 / 9300

Mericdus Gullimann
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2011.08.27 16:23:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Cista2
From Jita

Moon materials
Fernite carbide got more or less wiped from the market today and currently sell @ 140 isk, buy order at 111 isk.




Add titanium carbide to that list

Mericdus Gullimann
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2011.08.27 19:28:00 - [14]
 

And someones playing with hypersynaptic fibers so if you want to sell high dive in

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.28 10:36:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Cista2 on 29/08/2011 21:40:20

From Jita Sunday

PI
Plantery Vehicles are spiking, now at 25k / 32K
Robotics still surging, now at 46k / 50k

Ships
Hulk has dropped and buy price is now 178 mil
Kronos is spiking now at 650 / 700 mil

Edit: also, greetings to AlphaGeek and everyone from EU Wink

Stormhammer Investments
Posted - 2011.08.29 10:58:00 - [16]
 

Won't this be self defeating? Some people flush with more cash then sense will dive in and thus depress parts of it.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.29 11:24:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Stormhammer Investments
Won't this be self defeating? Some people flush with more cash then sense will dive in and thus depress parts of it.
Someone can exploit these spikes and margins. The ones I publish are some that I am not trading myself, but there is certainly money to be made if you are fast.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.08.30 09:39:00 - [18]
 

From Jita

Ice
Helium Isotopes took a new plunge with buy price now just 390 isk.
Oxygen Isotopes even more so with buy price 440 isk.

T2
1400mm Howitzer ii keep dropping and can now be bought at 2.8 mil, the lowest price in 1 year.
Invulnerability ii also keeps dropping and are now bought at 925k
Large CCC ii took a huge drop and can be bought for 160 mil, maybe even 155 mil

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:35:00 - [19]
 

From Jita Thursday

Implants
Crystal Delta is in a vicious spike, now at 286 / 420 mil and I don't have any :(
Crystal Gamma likewise, at 202 / 255

PI
Mech parts are spiking, now selling at 7k isk
Robotics have spiked like crazy a couple of days now

Ships
Hulks are low and can be bought at 177 mil

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:18:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Cista2
Traders are notoriously known for not sharing information about good trade routes or profitable items. But why not?

I am based in Jita, and scan some market categories during the week, but I no longer daytrade. I only buy for stock. So I don’t mind tipping when I spot a manipulation or other form of spike that a daytrader can exploit. It could even be to my advantage.

1. Buy low - stock
2. Announce - sharing info
3. Sell high - maniuplate to form a spike and exploit
4. ???
5. PROFIT!!! - my advantage

Does anyone else see this as a ploy to make isk by announcing around the water cooler to "BUY NOW!" which is probably just from the OP.

That or I am paranoid and should just go back to finding hidden messages from aliens on the ingredient list of cereal boxes.

Kei Darker
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:06:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Kei Darker on 02/09/2011 13:05:58
I don't think that Cista likes to manipulate other people... or make profit on them (see "Free Ship Shop" and "Universal Railways")... so I'm guessing this is more than just manipulation as the above poster suggested.

Keep the tips coming Cista. :)

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:40:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Kei Darker
I don't think that Cista likes to manipulate other people...
I do my share of manipulations.
The simple truth is that the items I trade today, I don't publish them here.
The ones where I don't have any interest, might as well share with others here and on the mail list. There have already been others returning the favor = potential profit.

Mericdus Gullimann
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:25:00 - [23]
 

After i announced above items i made a verry nice profit still distributing them to jita without too much 0.01 isking.So no manipulation and no huge effect on my own profits in doing so.

There is a difference between spotting and feeding market opportunities every now and then here OR handing over your own market strategies/items.

But that's just my view on it and i am sure some people would love to use this for market speculations once more people do it.


Skyblue
Blood Works Inc.
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:37:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Cista2
Originally by: Kei Darker
I don't think that Cista likes to manipulate other people...
I do my share of manipulations.
The simple truth is that the items I trade today, I don't publish them here.
The ones where I don't have any interest, might as well share with others here and on the mail list. There have already been others returning the favor = potential profit.


Do you just manual check all these prices or is there an app for that?

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:56:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Skyblue
Do you just manual check all these prices or is there an app for that?
Manual is still the way to go, but I am not nearly as active is I used to be.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.03 07:53:00 - [26]
 


The whole PI market is showing signs of recovery, about the only whole market segment showing a bullish trend.

T3 Decryptors have been falling heavily recently, they have got to be a decent long term investment for a buy and hold.
New connection skills are on the rise and I expect the sell price to hit the LP store sell value (25 Million) in the next month or so.

My interest; I've dabbled a little in both but the volume total market value is not high enough to make them worth much effort on my part.

Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
Posted - 2011.09.03 13:21:00 - [27]
 

From Jita saturday

PLEX are suddenly dropping again, and can be bougt at 364 mil today - after the news of a PLEX bulk price offer it's not surprising

Ice
Strontium C at a spike of 440 / 595

Minerals
Megacyte spiking at 2700 / 3000

Implants
Crystal Delta now at a huge margin of 291 / 406
Crystal Gamma similar with 178 / 253
Slave Omega have been hovering at 930 sell price

Moon materials
Phenolic composites now up at 625 / 840


 

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